What about white straight middle-class middle-aged men?
January 28, 2011 11:26 AM Subscribe
"White straight middle-class middle-aged men are the Real Victims of discrimination. You can't get a job nowadays if you're a white straight middle-class middle-aged man. (Well, I did, but that's beside the point.)"
How to argue on the internet, by Steven Baxter. [Via The Awl]
This post was deleted for the following reason: Eh, this is kind of thin. -- cortex
I don't see the point of you writing this post at all. What do you hope you're going to achieve?
posted by rocket88 at 11:28 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by rocket88 at 11:28 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
Uber-pernickety pedant of the week award
FTF...oh, I see what you almost made me do there.
posted by DU at 11:29 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
FTF...oh, I see what you almost made me do there.
posted by DU at 11:29 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
What the hell do bald guys know. Bald guy Steven Baxter is clearly bald so I would not put much stock in his ideas.
posted by Ad hominem at 11:30 AM on January 28, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by Ad hominem at 11:30 AM on January 28, 2011 [2 favorites]
"What's the point of talking about things?" finger-waggery: "I don't see the point of you writing this post at all. What do you hope you're going to achieve? Do you think the world will change at all because of what you've said? I don't think so. (Of course you could equally make the same point about this comment, but that would be wrong, because me making this comment really will change everything)."
Oh god yes. If you don't like discussions about atheism/Palin/whatever just steer clear.
posted by DU at 11:31 AM on January 28, 2011
Oh god yes. If you don't like discussions about atheism/Palin/whatever just steer clear.
posted by DU at 11:31 AM on January 28, 2011
If you don't like discussions about atheism/Palin/whatever just steer clear.
Oh, but it's okay to shoot somebody in the face.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:35 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
Oh, but it's okay to shoot somebody in the face.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:35 AM on January 28, 2011 [4 favorites]
I don't see the point of commenting in this thread? FIAMO.
posted by Eideteker at 11:40 AM on January 28, 2011
posted by Eideteker at 11:40 AM on January 28, 2011
*looks through all his open MeFi thread tabs*
Yup. MetaFilter is definitely doing it right, according to this.
posted by hippybear at 11:50 AM on January 28, 2011
Yup. MetaFilter is definitely doing it right, according to this.
posted by hippybear at 11:50 AM on January 28, 2011
White straight middle-class middle-aged men are the Real Victims of discrimination...
Without clicking the link, I can already tell Metafilter will have a field day with this.
posted by John Cohen at 11:55 AM on January 28, 2011
Without clicking the link, I can already tell Metafilter will have a field day with this.
posted by John Cohen at 11:55 AM on January 28, 2011
You know who else liked to outline ways that people argue badly on the Internet?
posted by gurple at 11:57 AM on January 28, 2011
posted by gurple at 11:57 AM on January 28, 2011
Permeability with the category "white straight rich old men" is higher among members of the category "white straight middle-class middle-aged men" than almost any other permutation of race, orientation, economic class, age group, or gender subcategories.
posted by jefficator at 12:00 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by jefficator at 12:00 PM on January 28, 2011
"The foolproof guide to avoiding intelligent discussion online."
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posted by clavdivs at 12:01 PM on January 28, 2011
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posted by clavdivs at 12:01 PM on January 28, 2011
I'm shocked, shocked to learn that people make pointless, predictable comments on the internet!
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:01 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:01 PM on January 28, 2011
If you are in favour of this, then you must be in favour of the way Justin Bieber does the Dougie.
posted by KokuRyu at 12:03 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by KokuRyu at 12:03 PM on January 28, 2011
I think, uh, maybe you should click the link.
Thanks for the suggestion, but actually, I'm going to go get a late lunch and then do some other stuff that's not clicking the link. I can tell what kind of piece this is going to be from the excerpt.
posted by John Cohen at 12:03 PM on January 28, 2011
Thanks for the suggestion, but actually, I'm going to go get a late lunch and then do some other stuff that's not clicking the link. I can tell what kind of piece this is going to be from the excerpt.
posted by John Cohen at 12:03 PM on January 28, 2011
I honestly can't believe you posted this with all the shit that's going on in Egypt. What's next? Cute videos of kittehs? The apathy on this site disgusts me.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:04 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by eyeballkid at 12:04 PM on January 28, 2011
You say that arguments about semantics are bad, but putting kidneys in your pie is all right, is it?
posted by Wolfdog at 12:04 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by Wolfdog at 12:04 PM on January 28, 2011
Man substitutes tired cliche for argument, film at 11.
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:05 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:05 PM on January 28, 2011
I can tell what kind of piece this is going to be from the excerpt.
Wow. That's one they didn't mention.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:05 PM on January 28, 2011 [14 favorites]
Wow. That's one they didn't mention.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:05 PM on January 28, 2011 [14 favorites]
Pernickety. I like that word. It's like persnickety, only nitpickier.
posted by blucevalo at 12:08 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by blucevalo at 12:08 PM on January 28, 2011
Yeah, like you've never made a tu quoque argument.
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:08 PM on January 28, 2011
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:08 PM on January 28, 2011
Yeah, like you've never made a tu quoque argument.
That's what SHE said.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 12:15 PM on January 28, 2011
That's what SHE said.
posted by L'Estrange Fruit at 12:15 PM on January 28, 2011
I am a white, straight, middle-aged man and I can't get a job. I think if I were middle-class I'd have a better chance. Some people would say I am middle-class because I'm not poor, own my own house (well, okay, flat) and I know what quinoa is. I say those people are middle-class gits who disrespect my working-class roots, and I invite them outside for fisticuffs, just as soon as I've finished my martini... I mean pint of bitter! Ooh, what a giveaway!
Umm.. What were we talking about, again?
posted by Decani at 12:16 PM on January 28, 2011
Umm.. What were we talking about, again?
posted by Decani at 12:16 PM on January 28, 2011
The "I See You Didn't Mention" Spanner/Works Interface: "I see you didn't mention the crimes of Pol Pot, or Mao Tse-Tung, which were undoubtedly horrific. Funny how people like you never mention their atrocities in a discussion - but then again, I suppose you'd be in favour of that."
Wrench and Pol Pot analogies are insulting and demeaning to my right to exploit suffering. Coupled with the hopeful knowledge that people in general do not know the real Salot Sar, the one I “knew” (read) of, the one that scares Ben Kiernan. yes, the real brother 1# was invisible on Thursdays and could fly anywhere in a small plane kept aboard a sampan, his jeep muffled so the quiet would be more profound.
Forget that he synthesized fear that makes Heydrich look like a cadet with saber skills and love for the arts.
posted by clavdivs at 12:21 PM on January 28, 2011
Wrench and Pol Pot analogies are insulting and demeaning to my right to exploit suffering. Coupled with the hopeful knowledge that people in general do not know the real Salot Sar, the one I “knew” (read) of, the one that scares Ben Kiernan. yes, the real brother 1# was invisible on Thursdays and could fly anywhere in a small plane kept aboard a sampan, his jeep muffled so the quiet would be more profound.
Forget that he synthesized fear that makes Heydrich look like a cadet with saber skills and love for the arts.
posted by clavdivs at 12:21 PM on January 28, 2011
I'm surprised the "surely this..." weenies haven't made an appearance.
The circle-jerk must still be in session.
posted by rougy at 12:26 PM on January 28, 2011
The circle-jerk must still be in session.
posted by rougy at 12:26 PM on January 28, 2011
Surely this will end the circle-jerk session!
I'm sorry, I'll stop now.
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:32 PM on January 28, 2011
I'm sorry, I'll stop now.
posted by George_Spiggott at 12:32 PM on January 28, 2011
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