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	<title>Comments on: Clever /monkey/human/robot/alien</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:51:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Clever /monkey/human/robot/alien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/01/110127131122.htm"&gt;&apos;On the Hunt for Universal Intelligence&apos;&lt;/a&gt; &apos;How do you use a scientific method to measure the intelligence of a human being, an animal, a machine or an extra-terrestrial? So far this has not been possible, but a team of Spanish and Australian researchers have taken a first step towards this by presenting the foundations to be used as a basis for this method in the journal Artificial Intelligence, and have also put forward a new intelligence test.&apos; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&apos;The implications of a universal intelligence test also impact on many other disciplines. This could have a significant impact on most cognitive sciences, since any discipline depends largely on the specific techniques and systems used in it and the mathematical basis that underpins it.
&quot;The universal and unified evaluation of intelligence, be it human, non-human animal, artificial or extraterrestrial, has not been approached from a scientific viewpoint before, and this is a first step,&quot; the researcher concludes.&apos;

And what about our wetware? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070911092117.htm&quot;&gt;Neuroscientists are on the hunt&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:45:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VikingSword</dc:creator>		<category>ArtificialIntelligence</category>		<category>UniversalIntelligenceTests</category>		<category>BrainScience</category>
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		<title>By: infinitewindow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488509</link>	
		<description>Intelligence does not necessarily mean sentience. Obligatory link to &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm&quot;&gt;Blindsight.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:51:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488554</link>	
		<description>Is there a website or something where I could take this new universal intelligence test?

Have I already failed the universal intelligence test by not having noticed a link to it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:06:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Flunkie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Flunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488565</link>	
		<description>Or at least a place where it&apos;s described in more detail than merely &quot;uses the so-called &apos;Kolmogorov complexity&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:12:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Flunkie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: creasy boy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488570</link>	
		<description>I was skeptical that they&apos;d be able to describe a scientific method for determining what the concept of intelligence should consist in. But then I clicked through, and it sounds like they&apos;ve just assumed some definition of intelligence and what they&apos;re looking for is some technical method of testing it in babies, robots, and aliens. 

Also I simply don&apos;t understand this bit:

&lt;em&gt;The implications of a universal intelligence test also impact on many other disciplines. This could have a significant impact on most cognitive sciences, since any discipline depends largely on the specific techniques and systems used in it and the mathematical basis that underpins it.
&lt;/em&gt;
Is this a non-sequiter? Or am I missing something? Sure, cognitive science depends largely on the techniques it uses ... but does it really depend on a technique for measuring intelligence in babies, robots and aliens?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: VikingSword</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488572</link>	
		<description>Flunkie, you can always contact the researchers. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TYF-51491M6-1&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=12%2F31%2F2010&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=search&amp;_origin=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=3f9328edcee216b8f3ba1b9a9af0edef&amp;searchtype=a&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt; to the abstract.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:14:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>VikingSword</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nzero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488577</link>	
		<description>Somebody&apos;s gonna trot it out, might as well be me: &lt;a href=&quot;http://cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/weblog/523.html&quot;&gt;g, a statistical myth&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:16:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: polymodus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3488722</link>	
		<description>Neat... At a high level it seems like their work is about applying some of the fundamental principles from information theory and complexity theory to enable comparison between two computers. My basic/curious questions with this approach would be  1) that intelligence is itself vaguely defined; how would you resolve this in a formal definition? and,  2) K() is uncomputable, so what does it even mean to talk about the Kolmogorov complexity of Michelle Kwan?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:16:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eye of newt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3489347</link>	
		<description>They need to test out their intelligence test on cats.

Scientists used to think cats were colorblind and a lot less intelligent than they now realize, because cats refused to go along with their standard animal tests. 

&quot;I don&apos;t care if you&lt;em&gt; have&lt;/em&gt; put my favorite snack behind the green door. I know I&apos;m being played, and I &lt;em&gt;refuse&lt;/em&gt; to be played.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 20:49:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aeschenkarnos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3489631</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;eye of newt&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;&quot;I don&apos;t care if you have put my favorite snack behind the green door. I know I&apos;m being played, and I refuse to be played.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Equally applicable to humans, dogs, pretty much everyone &lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt; except AIs. Intelligence testing is wildly skewed by social expectations and context, and social benefits and costs perceived by subject and tester.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:57:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bleary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3491773</link>	
		<description>Website with preprint

http://users.dsic.upv.es/proy/anynt/</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:08:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bleary</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bleary</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/100008/Clever-monkeyhumanrobotalien#3491785</link>	
		<description>The website I posted above links to a page on c-tests with online tests:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://users.dsic.upv.es/~jorallo/itests/&quot;&gt;Computational Measurement of Intelligence&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:15:29 -0800</pubDate>
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