Comments on: Saturday Morning Equality Movement

Saturday Morning Equality Movement

gracedissolved — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:27:42 -0800

Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal is an opinionated and sometimes very strange webcomic. (several times previously) The National Organization for Marriage is an organization that lobbies to protect heterosexual-only marriage rights. Today's SMBC is about the future! The NOM does not like this future. The NOM blog hotlinks this comic. Wait, that's not the same picture, is it...

The full story is here.

By: gracedissolved

gracedissolved — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:30:13 -0800

Cue my total terror at my first FPP. Zach Weiner is totally my hero today.

By: meandthebean

meandthebean — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:32:43 -0800

Looks like NOM already corrected the image.

By: jessamyn

jessamyn — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:33:58 -0800

How have I lived this long and not heard of the term "wanging" before. I'm a little surprised that's still up there. Nice post.

By: gracedissolved

gracedissolved — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:34:53 -0800

That figures! Literally must have just happened. There are screencaps on the blog post.

By: churl

churl — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:36:14 -0800

I'm seeing the opposite of meandthebean: for me, both the NOM and SMBC links show the rainbow flag image. There might be some back-and-forth in progress. Can we see a link to the original comic NOM was trying to hotlink?

By: jenkinsEar

jenkinsEar — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:38:16 -0800

watch your browser's cache settings; the rainbow flag seems to stick around.

By: Corduroy

Corduroy — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:38:22 -0800

You have no idea how many times I read the comic panel on each website, looking them over as if it was a "find the 12 differences" feature in a childrens magazine, feeling like an idiot. I support LGBTQ rights, why can't I notice the glaring and offensive editing that NOM did to this comic???

By: not_on_display

not_on_display — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:38:42 -0800

I am incorporating the term "wanging" into at least five sentences in the next hour. I hope I don't wang my brain by trying to figure out new ways to fit the word wang into a sentence. ok that's two

By: John Kenneth Fisher

John Kenneth Fisher — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:38:58 -0800

It's cause your browser sees the same path for both and pulls out from its cache whichever one it loaded first. Which can delay the discovery of the switch in some cases, though probably not in this one.

By: middleclasstool

middleclasstool — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:39:13 -0800

Looks like they're down. Glad the blog post has screenshots. I chuckled at the comic this morning, but that makes it a whole lot funnier.

By: rmd1023

rmd1023 — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:39:58 -0800

Jessamyn - I'm not sure if they originated it (I think they did), but the term "wanging" for hammering a site got popularized by Penny Arcade.

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:40:11 -0800

Is it legal for NOM to hotlink his comic like that (and host it themselves after he pulled the switcheroo, which I assume they did but can't check since the site's currently down)? Zach doesn't seem like someone inclined to be a dick about copyright issues, but if any group deserves a righteous slapdown, it's these guys. (Also, this live comment loading is awesome.)

By: churl

churl — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:42:46 -0800

watch your browser's cache settings; the rainbow flag seems to stick around. Oh, right, thanks. It was a referrer hack and not (like I assumed) just a separate image path at the SMBC server. A hard-refresh on the SMBC page did the trick. Cheers

By: rtha

rtha — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:42:57 -0800

Huh. NOM seems to be wanged again. Poor dears, everyone is always picking on them and wanging their blog.

By: Pope Guilty

Pope Guilty — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:43:06 -0800

Yeah, Penny Arcade used to have "wang" as a catchphrase (for example) and was one of the early sites capable of causing the Slashdot Effect. Hence, "wanging".

By: Potomac Avenue

Potomac Avenue — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:43:16 -0800

This live comment loading is totally wanging my iPhone by in a good way. NO GRANDPA IM NOT MASTURBATING. well I am but thats besides the point.

By: bonehead

bonehead — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:46:04 -0800

watch your browser's cache settings; the rainbow flag seems to stick around. All that wanging makes it sticky.

By: grubi

grubi — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:46:22 -0800

this live comment loading is awesome Agreed!

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:46:23 -0800

Huh, according to the Google cache, the comic is still a direct link to the SMBC comic. Did he stop using the rainbow image? Also: "NOM STAFF"? LOL.

By: Fiasco da Gama

Fiasco da Gama — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:49:05 -0800

NO GRANDPA... Wang, bang, thank you gran

By: thsmchnekllsfascists

thsmchnekllsfascists — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:05:52 -0800

SMBC has just only edged out mefi as my favorite place on the internet for at least 3 years now. Thanks for putting on the front page!

By: thsmchnekllsfascists

thsmchnekllsfascists — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:06:25 -0800

Also, sheffield muscle bodybuilding club? fuck those guys, just let the domain die...please.

By: fatbird

fatbird — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:11:28 -0800

I hope I don't wang my brain by trying to figure out new ways to fit the word wang into a sentence. ok that's two Mentioning doesn't count.

By: sebastienbailard

sebastienbailard — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:13:33 -0800

I hope I don't brain my wang trying to fit it into a sentence.

By: Bromius

Bromius — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:15:53 -0800

Wow, that really is numberwang.

By: kmz

kmz — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:17:15 -0800

Huh, according to the Google cache, the comic is still a direct link to the SMBC comic. Did he stop using the rainbow image? It's a referrer hack. It only loads the rainbow image if the 'referer' [sic, goddamned HTTP standard can't spell] is the NOM blog.

By: kmz

kmz — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:18:19 -0800

Wanging wangs wang wanged wang.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:23:50 -0800

Wanging wangs wang wanged wang. I believe the canonical form is "wangless wang wangs wang wangily", but we'd have to check with Chomsky to be sure.

By: zylocomotion

zylocomotion — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:23:53 -0800

So happy that SMBC kept this classy instead of, for example, invoking goatse. And then kind of sad that they didn't.

By: phunniemee

phunniemee — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:26:02 -0800

I know this guy, Tom Wang, who once wanged the karaoke queue by putting Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight (Everybody Wang Chung Tonight)" on repeat the whole night. That guy is such a dick. ...I mean, wang. Guy's a total wang.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:26:14 -0800

The latest SMBC video is pretty good.

By: That's Numberwang!

That's Numberwang! — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:36:29 -0800

I approve. Of the wanging in particular.

By: immlass

immlass — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:41:26 -0800

If you look at a cartoon about an SFnal future in which babies don't come from inseminating human females and the first thing you think of has anything to do with gay marriage (or any kind of marriage at all), I have to wonder about your frame of reference a little.

By: Existential Dread

Existential Dread — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:58:19 -0800

You wanged my ship, you walnut-paneled idiot!

By: spiderskull

spiderskull — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:01:34 -0800

By the way, there's a screenshot here in case you wanted to see what it looked like.

By: WhackyparseThis

WhackyparseThis — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:04:08 -0800

Is it legal for NOM to hotlink his comic like that (and host it themselves after he pulled the switcheroo, which I assume they did but can't check since the site's currently down)? Zack actively encourages hotlinking his comics by giving out the code to link it for your blog/myspace/forum, so I expect legally they would be fine. If they copied it and hosted it themselves, then there could be trouble, but anyone sensible would just delete the post instead.

By: Errant

Errant — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:04:44 -0800

Yeah, "wanging" was penny arcade's term for their slashdot effect. Sort of ironic, given the current furor, but only sort of. Does anyone have a cache of the NOM link? I'm only getting their "server down" page.

By: vidur

vidur — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:44:23 -0800

Wangers gonna wang.

By: Baby_Balrog

Baby_Balrog — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:49:47 -0800

Hey! Since most of this stuff is now borked could someone please provide a text-only version of what the hell is going on? This post wins the cryptic post of the year award. From Balrog awards. Discount.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:52:26 -0800

What would have been fun would be to serve the rainbow flag to NOM blog readers, but serve the original comic to any NOM hosts. Just to keep it up a bit longer. Anyway, this was awesome. Kudos to Zach for fighting back in such a smart, classy way.

By: EmGeeJay

EmGeeJay — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:56:11 -0800

Al Gore: Well, it's obvious what should have happened. That wang to the head should have killed you.

By: zoogleplex

zoogleplex — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:56:33 -0800

I'm proud to say today that I'm a Weiner man. Good on ya, Zach! :D

By: WhackyparseThis

WhackyparseThis — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:06:54 -0800

Baby Balrog, it's all explained in the "Full Story" link below the fold.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:12:52 -0800

Huzzah!

By: Joakim Ziegler

Joakim Ziegler — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:28:49 -0800

He did go the classy route. If this happened to me, with their blog entry titled "Grandpa" and everything, I'd probably be reaching for lemonparty.jpg in the blink of an eye.

By: Mitrovarr

Mitrovarr — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:06:00 -0800

Joakim Ziegler: He did go the classy route. If this happened to me, with their blog entry titled "Grandpa" and everything, I'd probably be reaching for lemonparty.jpg in the blink of an eye. This is better. It's just as much of a troll to them without being instantly recognizable and dismissible as an anti-hotlinking image.

By: Samizdata

Samizdata — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:07:51 -0800

Mad style indeed. Afraid to say I would go with something like meatspin myself. I have little to no grace when adequately angered.

By: NoraReed

NoraReed — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:20:46 -0800

Yeah, I would've assumed "wanging" was the practice where you read Harry Potter aloud while replacing the word "wand" with "wang". I also thought he showed great restraint by not going old-school and using goatse.

By: NoraReed

NoraReed — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:49:35 -0800

Now the TVTropes kids are trying to make a trope for this. D'aww.

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:46:58 -0800

Chunged. This evening. All of us.

By: MCMikeNamara

MCMikeNamara — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:03:14 -0800

As someone who considers NOM the enemy*, I am pleased not just by the occurrence itself but by how it exposes that being an idiot in your morality sometimes corresponds with being an idiot with your technology. That their organization's blog person would hotlink an image in such an ignorant way brings me joy on so many levels. * with full realization that I'm poisoning the well of discourse by doing using this language and about 20 years and too frustrated being told I'm equal enough because I can get a civil union and domestic partnership (our pre-tax insurance benefits shows me every month just how equal I am by charging me $200 that my heterosexually married co-workers don't have to pay to cover their own families

By: Xoder

Xoder — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:04:48 -0800

Well, now they have copied it and stored it locally. You know, just for reference's sake.

By: LD Feral

LD Feral — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:12:45 -0800

The commentary on the blog had me confused for awhile. Despite the description of an anti-rights/protest/whatever site, the majority of the posters seem to be all in favour of the LGBT business, or at least were kind of confused at what all point was being made. And, Corduroy, you weren't the only one trying to pixel hunt for differences in the panels. Regardless- Hilarious! (Or at least mildly satisfying)

By: inigo2

inigo2 — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:21:46 -0800

protect heterosexual-only marriage rights The word "rights" shouldn't be in that statement.

By: The Bellman

The Bellman — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:25:03 -0800

If they copied it and hosted it themselves, then there could be trouble, but anyone sensible would just delete the post instead. In case you needed any further proof that NOM does not fit in the category of "anyone sensible" (and who does?), they have now copied it and are hosting it themselves. RELEASE THE ~~KRAKEN~~ LAWYERS! (IANAK.)

By: papercake

papercake — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:54:36 -0800

You got your WANG in my NOM! You NOMed my wang!

By: spitefulcrow

spitefulcrow — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:46:24 -0800

protect heterosexual-only marriage rights The word "rights" shouldn't be in that statement. Care to explain yourself there?

By: inigo2

inigo2 — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:13:43 -0800

Care to explain yourself there? Heterosexual-only marriage isn't a right. It's a reduction of rights. Heterosexual marriage = a right Homosexual marriage = a right Limiting what other people can do = not a right

By: edguardo

edguardo — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:48:43 -0800

Or, according to Arthur Schopenhauer: marriage is to halve one's rights and double one's duties. Everyone should have the right to be miserable in any way that anyone else is being miserable in! im sure marriage can be nice, i was just reminded of this quote

By: gracedissolved

gracedissolved — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:13:46 -0800

The phrasing is a bit awkward, but what I was saying is that getting married is a right that people have or don't have, and NOM wishes it to be heterosexual-only. Which seemed slightly less like editorializing than to explain how I hate them with the fire of a thousand suns because I am (a) Christian, (b) queer, and (c) increasingly surrounded by wedding talk. (I should never have let the girlfriend near the Sunday Sweets on Cake Wrecks.)

By: Joakim Ziegler

Joakim Ziegler — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:10:50 -0800

Mitrovarr: "Joakim Ziegler: He did go the classy route. If this happened to me, with their blog entry titled "Grandpa" and everything, I'd probably be reaching for lemonparty.jpg in the blink of an eye. This is better. It's just as much of a troll to them without being instantly recognizable and dismissible as an anti-hotlinking image" Yeah, I agree, I'm just saying I don't think I would be capable of such classy behaviour in that situation, since I'd be too pissed off. So, again, hats off.