Two hours of my life gone forever
February 24, 2011 7:26 AM Subscribe
What really happens at a London Fashion Week show. (via Vicestyle) (Sidebar contains ladies' bosoms, may be NSFW)
(Looks like Union Chapel to me - which is so wee that Dave Matthews struggles to fill it.)
(Looks like Union Chapel to me - which is so wee that Dave Matthews struggles to fill it.)
That model in that first picture looks like Marilyn Manson.
The models are looking more grotesque than usual, like walking corpses, and I think it distracts from the clothes.
posted by anniecat at 7:52 AM on February 24, 2011
The models are looking more grotesque than usual, like walking corpses, and I think it distracts from the clothes.
posted by anniecat at 7:52 AM on February 24, 2011
The room looks fairly dark, and the model in the photo is caught in a seriously bright flash from a bad angle. So that explains why she looks more like a ghoul and less like something you'd pine for like a teenager.
I know Vice gets a bad vibe around here, but I really enjoy the voice they give. A genuine detachment from caring followed by a, "Well, as long as I'm here might as well get a picture with someone famous!" At least they've moved away from proving they've got a good coke dealer and talking about how coked up / fucked up they are while still managing to do a competent job.
posted by geoff. at 7:56 AM on February 24, 2011
I know Vice gets a bad vibe around here, but I really enjoy the voice they give. A genuine detachment from caring followed by a, "Well, as long as I'm here might as well get a picture with someone famous!" At least they've moved away from proving they've got a good coke dealer and talking about how coked up / fucked up they are while still managing to do a competent job.
posted by geoff. at 7:56 AM on February 24, 2011
I'm not a fan of Vice in general, save their photo shoots which often are very clever. The websites trying to be Vice - going on about 'normals' while spending their parents' money on coke for their double-barrelled squat party friends - are worse for me. Which is a shame because it would be good to get that voice without the tired and posey hipster aesthetic which is looking so dated now.
posted by mippy at 8:02 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by mippy at 8:02 AM on February 24, 2011
Reading this was like if i had to go to the superbowl and had to write it up. No sympathy at all for this person. You hate the event, the people involved, get free drinks, steal toilet paper, and then complain you can't get the two hours back? Seriously? What a spoiled brat.
posted by usagizero at 8:03 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by usagizero at 8:03 AM on February 24, 2011
usagizero: Reading this was like if i had to go to the superbowl and had to write it up. No sympathy at all for this person. You hate the event, the people involved, get free drinks, steal toilet paper, and then complain you can't get the two hours back? Seriously? What a spoiled brat
Actually, if it was the Super Bowl it would be a lot more than 2 hours you lost.
That would also be the absolute only difference between the two disgusting, vapid wastes of money dumped down a drain for people to walk back and forth in front of you in stupid clothes.
posted by paisley henosis at 8:16 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
Actually, if it was the Super Bowl it would be a lot more than 2 hours you lost.
That would also be the absolute only difference between the two disgusting, vapid wastes of money dumped down a drain for people to walk back and forth in front of you in stupid clothes.
posted by paisley henosis at 8:16 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
Kelly Cutrone once said that they pay celebs to attend fashion shows.
posted by anniecat at 8:19 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by anniecat at 8:19 AM on February 24, 2011
He's a fashion writer (of a flavour) so the Superbowl analogy doesn't hold unless you write about non-corporate sports.
As someone who likes clothing and particularly the idea of a semiotic or communicative meaning through what people wear, I can't say I like the side of fashion that results in Anna Wintour and size 6 models being told they're too large. I liked this link as it was a fashion writer calling bullshit, which many publications will not.
posted by mippy at 8:24 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
As someone who likes clothing and particularly the idea of a semiotic or communicative meaning through what people wear, I can't say I like the side of fashion that results in Anna Wintour and size 6 models being told they're too large. I liked this link as it was a fashion writer calling bullshit, which many publications will not.
posted by mippy at 8:24 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
Those people that are the famous people...I don't recognize them by face (except Juliette Lewis and Janice Dickinson and is that Suzanne Somers in the same row as Lewis?). What are their names?
posted by anniecat at 8:31 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by anniecat at 8:31 AM on February 24, 2011
One of them is Sadie Frost, the other is Jamie Winstone, and I think Jo Wood (wife of Ronnie). We're stretchign the definition of 'famous' here. (I don't know who Suzanne Somers is.)
posted by mippy at 8:35 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by mippy at 8:35 AM on February 24, 2011
anniecat: "Kelly Cutrone once said that they pay celebs to attend fashion shows."
Depends on the designer and the celebrities. Some do. Many do not.
If you have a collection that is popular and a big draw, there's no need to pay celebrities. They'll want to show up and have their picture taken. Fashionista published a list last year. I have no idea if it's accurate, but I can tell you that a handful of A-list designers have banned celebrities from the front row, so it's unlikely they'd be paying them to attend.
posted by zarq at 8:36 AM on February 24, 2011
Depends on the designer and the celebrities. Some do. Many do not.
If you have a collection that is popular and a big draw, there's no need to pay celebrities. They'll want to show up and have their picture taken. Fashionista published a list last year. I have no idea if it's accurate, but I can tell you that a handful of A-list designers have banned celebrities from the front row, so it's unlikely they'd be paying them to attend.
posted by zarq at 8:36 AM on February 24, 2011
"I'm not sure I can fully get across how unexciting it is to watch people walk past you wearing clothes."
Truth.
posted by pwally at 8:36 AM on February 24, 2011
Truth.
posted by pwally at 8:36 AM on February 24, 2011
mippy: "(I don't know who Suzanne Somers is.)"
American Actress and spokesperson for products like "Thighmaster"
posted by zarq at 8:37 AM on February 24, 2011
American Actress and spokesperson for products like "Thighmaster"
posted by zarq at 8:37 AM on February 24, 2011
zarq, am I right in thinking you're involved in the industry? (No problem if you'd prefer not to say!)
posted by mippy at 8:48 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by mippy at 8:48 AM on February 24, 2011
I am. Sort of. I wrangle press backstage at a handful of NYFW shows each season, and am going to do the same at some shows in another city next week. Can't say more than that publicly though. I posted a couple of comments towards the end of this thread last year about my experiences.
It's a fun article. He's focusing on the vapid, ego-fest aspect of the show, which is something that's always bugged me. But most journalists don't do this because they'd have to be crazy to bite the hand that feeds them tickets.
The shows do serve a purpose for the industry. In New York they've also changed drastically in the last 30-40 years. What's interesting to me is that he's highlighted things in this article which only show up at small shows in NY nowadays, or not at all. They don't serve alcohol anywhere at the larger venues -- not backstage nor front-of-house. (With rare exceptions, like Michael Kors 30th anniversary show.) Production crew don't wander around spraying perfume atomizers, either. Or burn scented candles. No open flames would be allowed anywhere in NY in a space that size and with that crowd, without a permit or a fire marshal on hand. The crowd isn't usually so close to the runway and the models, either.
posted by zarq at 9:06 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
It's a fun article. He's focusing on the vapid, ego-fest aspect of the show, which is something that's always bugged me. But most journalists don't do this because they'd have to be crazy to bite the hand that feeds them tickets.
The shows do serve a purpose for the industry. In New York they've also changed drastically in the last 30-40 years. What's interesting to me is that he's highlighted things in this article which only show up at small shows in NY nowadays, or not at all. They don't serve alcohol anywhere at the larger venues -- not backstage nor front-of-house. (With rare exceptions, like Michael Kors 30th anniversary show.) Production crew don't wander around spraying perfume atomizers, either. Or burn scented candles. No open flames would be allowed anywhere in NY in a space that size and with that crowd, without a permit or a fire marshal on hand. The crowd isn't usually so close to the runway and the models, either.
posted by zarq at 9:06 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
It's an insufferable article about an insufferable event, but GDI I still laughed. I have a guilty love for fashion, and I'm not sure if it's about clothing design or the ridiculous and completely self-unaware peacock petting zoo that seems to make up a lot of the industry.
posted by katillathehun at 9:57 AM on February 24, 2011
posted by katillathehun at 9:57 AM on February 24, 2011
One of the runway models looks just like Richmond from The IT Crowd.
posted by medeine at 10:43 AM on February 24, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by medeine at 10:43 AM on February 24, 2011 [3 favorites]
I, for one, am glad that cultural events are starting to invite people who know nothing about them, and so heap contempt upon them, but are desperate enough for celebrity attention to run up to models and actors afterward to beg for a photo, but are embarrassed enough by this to pretend it's all just a joke and then insult the women who pose with them using a gendered insult.
Really, who needs critics anymore?
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:34 AM on February 24, 2011 [2 favorites]
Really, who needs critics anymore?
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:34 AM on February 24, 2011 [2 favorites]
medeine: "One of the runway models looks just like Richmond from The IT Crowd"
Three weeks ago I wouldn't have got that joke. Now, my boss thinks I'm unstable for all the cackling.
posted by notsnot at 11:49 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
Three weeks ago I wouldn't have got that joke. Now, my boss thinks I'm unstable for all the cackling.
posted by notsnot at 11:49 AM on February 24, 2011 [1 favorite]
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