Pfc. Bradley E. Manning, the Army intelligence analyst accused of leaking government files to WikiLeaks, will be stripped of his clothing every night as a “precautionary measure” to prevent him from injuring himself, an official at the Marine brig at Quantico, Va., said on Friday.Instead of asking us questions that you could find answers to instantly, why not take a few moments and become a little educated on the issue?
Private Manning will also be required to stand outside his cell naked during a morning inspection, after which his clothing will be returned to him, said a Marine spokesman, First Lt. Brian Villiard.
"...all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."You would think it's despicable to a majority. You may or may not be right. But even if it were a majority (and part of Obama's campaign seemed to be on civil liberties (even if not a radical civil libertarian) so those who got him elected would probably have been against this kind of thing), if the majority isn't suffering enough, if the evils are sufferable, then we will suffer under them.
"Why don’t we close Guantanamo and restore the right of habeas corpus, because that’s how we lead, not with the might of our military, but the power of our ideals and the power of our values. It’s time to show the world we’re not a country that ships prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far off countries. We’re not a country that runs prisons which locks people away without ever telling them why they’re there or what they’re charged with. We’re not a country which preaches compassion to others while we allow bodies to float down the streets of major American cities. That’s not who we are."No; the truth, and Obama's complete failure to meet his campaign promises, never get old for me.
NewsWeek first reported on the murder. They report that the Taliban believes the documents showed it U.S. sources, including the murder victim, Abdullah -- whether or not they truly do. (emphasis mine)From the Newsweek article:
While it is unknown whether any of the men were indeed named in the WikiLeaks documents, it’s clear the Taliban believes they have been cooperating with Western forces and the Afghan government.posted by Manjusri at 3:00 PM on March 12, 2011
bradass87: hypothetical question: if you had free reign overYou might not like Bradley Manning. You might think he made the wrong decision. You might keep claiming, despite no corroborating evidence and absolutely all the concrete evidence to the contrary, that he's caused deaths (and how many damned deaths has the US government's insane policies caused?)
classified networks for long periods of time... say, 8-9 months... and you
saw incredible things, awful things... things that belonged in the public
domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC...
what would you do?
[...]
bradass87: uhm... crazy, almost criminal political
backdealings... the non-PR-versions of world events and crises... uhm...
all kinds of stuff like everything from the buildup to the Iraq War during
Powell, to what the actual content of "aid packages" is: for instance, PR
that the US is sending aid to pakistan includes funding for
water/food/clothing... that much is true, it includes that, but the other
85% of it is for F-16 fighters and munitions to aid in the Afghanistan
effort, so the US can call in Pakistanis to do aerial bombing instead of
americans potentially killing civilians and creating a PR crisis.
Don't blame Obama. He knows how it would play in the press if he made any move regarding Manning's treatment.The press doesn't care about Manning. They only reason he got asked about it was because of Crowly's comment. Anyway, cowardice about the press is just such an idiotic excuse. The real people he's worried about are people who were embarrassed by the leak.
instead we draw reasonable inferences: when you publish the names of Afghan informants on the web, and the Taliban say they have downloaded these publicly-available documents, it it reasonable to inferWell, we are debating the real world, not hypothetical. And there's a good reason for that, since there is no way to know who's hypothetical model of the world is correct. Speculation isn't worth arguing about, just dismissing.
Angle lost. O Donnell lost. The tea party was a temporary blip and will be a non entity in 2012 when the GOP actually has to win a national election.Plenty of Tea partiers won, including Rand Paul. The reality is the majority of republican candidates in '10 pledged fealty to the teaparty. They won more then they lost.
I gave him $800 and volunteered fulltime for a month.I thought about it, but my lazyness has been richly rewarded.
> Getting Obama elected took a lot more than just you, and getting Obama elected is not evidence that you understand how American politics work any more than eating a hamburger is evidence you understand how McDonald's works.Money goes in, votes come out. Never a miscommunication.
810. Art. 10. Restraint of persons charged with offensesPrompt Action
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Any person subject to this chapter charged with an offense under this chapter shall be ordered into arrest or confinement, as circumstances may require; but when charged only with an offense normally tried by a summary court-martial, he shall not ordinarily be placed in confinement. When any person subject to this chapter is placed in arrest or confinement prior to trial, immediate steps shall be taken to inform him of the specific wrong of which he is accused and to try him or to dismiss the charges and release him.
The Sixth Amendment to the Constitution and UCMJ, Article 10, guarantee the right to a speedy trial. The accused soldier has the right to be advised of the charges against him as early as possible. Normally, the accused must come to trial within 120 days of either arrest or preferral of charges, whichever is earlier. An accused may not remain in continuous pretrial confinement more than 90 days for the same or related charges. (See MCM, Chapter VII, Rule for Courts-Martial 707, Analysis.) A speedy trial assists both the government and the accused. Testimony given soon after an incident is more reliable than that given after a long period. Also, witnesses are likely to leave the area during a delay.posted by Kirth Gerson at 6:41 AM on March 13, 2011 [1 favorite]
"I don't want to have people who just agree with me. I want people who are continually pushing me out of my comfort zone."Yes, but not publicly
Private Manning, unlike most other prisoners, is never allowed to mingle with other prisoners. We consider that to be “solitary confinement,” but the Pentagon says it is not because he is allowed to shout to prisoners elsewhere in his cellblock. Our editorial criticized Private Manning’s detention conditions because he must strip every night and hand over his clothes to a guard (unlike most other prisoners). The Pentagon says this is not forced nudity because he is then given a Velcro-secured wrap-around “smock” that he may sleep in.And this is from A Statement on Manning's Detention from a Yale Law prof and Harvard Law prof (and signed by many others):
President Obama was once a professor of constitutional law, and entered the national stage as an eloquent moral leader. The question now, however, is whether his conduct as Commander in Chief meets fundamental standards of decency. He should not merely assert that Manning’s confinement is “appropriate and meet[s] our basic standards,” as he did recently. He should require the Pentagon publicly to document the grounds for its extraordinary actions --and immediately end those which cannot withstand the light of day.posted by Glinn at 8:01 PM on March 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
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Yeah, because after the treatment they're subjecting him to drives him functionally insane he might try to commit suicide!
posted by The Card Cheat at 7:08 AM on March 12, 2011 [9 favorites]