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September 13, 2001
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"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Ann Coulter, as always an island of calm reflection.
posted by rcade (96 comments total)

 
I can't decide if that column made me more or less sick than the events on Tuesday.
posted by crawl at 8:28 AM on September 13, 2001


The furtive cell phone call was an act of incredible daring and panache.

I thought all the passengers on the flight that crashed in PA were ordered to call their loved ones? If so, wow, is she manipulating the facts.
posted by starvingartist at 8:28 AM on September 13, 2001


We should invade Ann Coulter and convert her.

Absolutely disgusting, this situation really brings out worst in the worst people.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 8:30 AM on September 13, 2001


Nothing more sexy than a leggy blonde facist.
posted by glenwood at 8:32 AM on September 13, 2001


This is no time to be precious about locating the exact individuals directly involved in this particular terrorist attack.

Because we don't want justice as much as we want other people to die, too.

We all watch in horror as Palestinians cheer in the streets over the loss of innocent people in America, but you can bet yahoos like Ann Coulter will be jumping with joy when we kill innocent people in Afghanistan/Iraq/wherever.
posted by turaho at 8:33 AM on September 13, 2001


Nothing more sexy than a leggy blonde facist.

that is correct. THAT is CORRECT. Did anyone else find Kennedy sexy, the MTV host? i sure did, even though she admitted to sexual fantasies about danforth quayle. eww.

that article was sick. i want to cancel my dad's subscription.
posted by adampsyche at 8:36 AM on September 13, 2001


Shame on you, Ann Coulter. That's one laughable column.
posted by dagny at 8:37 AM on September 13, 2001


I can't help but think she knows this article will circulate and get her onto all of the panelist shows next week for shock value.

Fox News Here I comes!

Ugh.
posted by glenwood at 8:37 AM on September 13, 2001


Absolutely horrific.

"Lumpen mesomorphs" vs. Suzy Chapstick and a Lumberjack from Idaho.

This is a close to overt racism as one can get without losing one's tv show/column.
posted by Mid at 8:39 AM on September 13, 2001


I don't know what is more distressing in that article: her advocasy of racial profiling for employment, her armchair suggestion that we invade, murder, and "convert" Muslims, or that Solicitor General Ted Olson used reportedly used to read her venemous, hateful column out loud to Barbara Olson at breakfast.
posted by mattpusateri at 8:40 AM on September 13, 2001


....you can bet yahoos like Ann Coulter will be jumping with joy when we kill innocent people in Afghanistan/Iraq/wherever.

They'll throw parties.

You know, like the Super Bowl.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 8:40 AM on September 13, 2001


She generously praised one of my recent columns and told me I had really found my niche.

Awww! She liked me!

Ted, she said, had taken to reading my columns aloud to her over breakfast.

He liked me too!

Hillary claimed preposterously in the Talk magazine interview that she discussed policy with Bill while cutting his grapefruit in the morning. Ted and Barbara really did talk politics--and really did have breakfast together.

They weren't terrible lying douchebags like our former President and First Lady! Huh? What do you mean this has no relevance to current events?

hostile, lumpen mesomorphs ripping open our luggage . . . Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers

Why are these bastards bothering us leggy blondes when there's swarthy people around?

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.

Tee hee! Rock on, party people!
posted by Skot at 8:44 AM on September 13, 2001


"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

So this blonde Nazi is effectively admitting to being as vicious and inhumane as the parties that carried out the attack?
posted by scribble at 8:44 AM on September 13, 2001


Watching all the pictures and news from the last few days I have not once felt sick or ill.
That column made me feel i'll. It is sad that people so ignorant, closeminded and blind are in places of such power and influence.
Many people will read that column and 'nod their heads' in agreement. I bow my head in disguist.
posted by Burgatron at 8:44 AM on September 13, 2001


Barbara Olson

I certainly won't miss her and I'm glad she's gone.

As far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved.

A pathetic thing to say, but that's the kind of hatred disgusting people like her create.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 8:46 AM on September 13, 2001


Not previously having read Ann Coulter, I was certain that the message of this column would have been in the form of a Swiftian "Modest Proposal." Gosh was I wrong. . .Last night on the radio, a caller in to a right wing talk show said that this event was the Clinton legacy. . .
posted by Danf at 8:48 AM on September 13, 2001


Did want to post this to the front page, because it doesn't deserve it. But if you think Coulter's bad, listen to Jerry Falwell on today's 700 Club. I presume they have the latest one up on this page. The Rev. said gays and lesbians, as well as the ACLU, etc., etc., share the blame for the terrorist actions. I was channel surfing, and caught him for a bit, caught the hate lines within a minute. What a mean SOB.
posted by raysmj at 8:49 AM on September 13, 2001


I laughed out loud at Coulter's column, but it's really not funny that she has a national platform where she's free to go completely apeshit. (Normally, I would think this is an overreaction to the death of a friend, but Coulter's always writing stuff like this.)

I can understand when a paper does a man-on-the-street interview with a person who says we should kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out -- there's no shortage of idiots in the country.

However, the publishers and TV producers who give Coulter a forum should recognize the perils of demagoguery like this.

As for Barbara Olson, I didn't agree with her TV work or her writing, but her efforts to alert people to the hijacking were remarkable. Trashing her now -- and claiming that she made you do it -- is pathetic.
posted by rcade at 8:52 AM on September 13, 2001


This is wonderful. Radical islamic fundamentalists are turning us into radical christian fundamentalists. Good stuff.
posted by Doug at 8:53 AM on September 13, 2001


Skot I am heterosexual. Married, in fact. But I think I'm developing a bit of a crush on you.
posted by glenwood at 8:54 AM on September 13, 2001


Good ole Jerry, he loves bashin' lesbians.

I was surfing around also and caught Pat Robertson talking about "converting" Muslims here in America.

Obviously, those people can't choose their own religion so they need the 700 Club to do it for them.

Yikes.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 8:56 AM on September 13, 2001


I was just over at the 700 Club trying to enjoy some live streaming facism straight from Falwell's gaping maw when another link caught my eye.
And now I just can't stop spreading the word of Pat Robertson's delicious Age Defying Shake.
posted by glenwood at 8:57 AM on September 13, 2001


No apparent awareness on Coulter's part that the Third Reich was officially a "Christian" regime.
posted by ryanshepard at 8:58 AM on September 13, 2001


Man I just don't understand why any red-blooded American male would want to bash lesbians.
I'm just kidding ya'll.
Sort of.
posted by glenwood at 8:58 AM on September 13, 2001


Invasion, assassination, and conversion? Like last time?
posted by holgate at 9:03 AM on September 13, 2001


The board over at Yahoo containing this article is going through the roof.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 9:04 AM on September 13, 2001


Those last two paragraphs are disgusting.

"It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. "

Isn't that the whole point of security? You assume the worst, and try to prove that the people you let on are safe. Profiling specific people of a specific decent, and singling them out only makes it easier for other people to act.
posted by mkn at 9:06 AM on September 13, 2001


As a Christian, the article I just read offends me to no end. To state something like Ann Coulter did gives my faith a bad name.

In this insane crazy time, all I can do is pray. And so I do. Ann's name just got added to my list.
posted by wondergirl at 9:06 AM on September 13, 2001


I just think it's funny that she said we should convert people to Christianity. I am guessing she didn't see the BBC footage of Christians throwing rocks at Catholic school children and their mothers in Ireland last week.
posted by disaster at 9:07 AM on September 13, 2001


I thought all the passengers on the flight that crashed in PA were ordered to call their loved ones?

No.

But what I really wanted to ask was whether anyone knew of a way to respond to the little blond bigot. I couldn't find a "comments" link or forum.
posted by mirla at 9:09 AM on September 13, 2001


Barbara Olson
I certainly won't miss her and I'm glad she's gone.
As far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved.


I despised her politics and her methods, but NOBODY deserved what happened Tuesday, and it's sick to wish it on anyone. Despite my revulsion for her husband's politics, my heart goes out to him right now.
posted by mattpusateri at 9:11 AM on September 13, 2001


It's reading things like this that make me glad to be in England. I apologise that this is not the most constructive post, but to state we should 'convert them' puts her in the same league as any religious fanatic on any continent. We have our own bloddy war continuosly raging which saw a bomb explode in my west london town, and has seen masses of innocents killed over the years, many funded by American sympathisers. Have they been rooted out and converted?
posted by Frasermoo at 9:13 AM on September 13, 2001


It's reading things like this that make me glad to be in England.

A little perspective : America was formed out attempts to gain freedom of religion from England.
Moral of the story: Everywhere are bastards.
posted by glenwood at 9:16 AM on September 13, 2001


out of attempts
posted by glenwood at 9:20 AM on September 13, 2001


While people like this walk the earth, tragedies like this will continue to happen because of the ignorance of humanity.
posted by trioperative at 9:22 AM on September 13, 2001


So glenwood, you reckon Frasermoo should rephrase to: "It's reading things like this that make me glad to have half a brain" instead, as he can see what is so wrong with that article.
posted by dabitch at 9:24 AM on September 13, 2001


Take my statment as 'I've never seen such a far-right christian fascist romping through the media in England'

Fascinating. Believe me, over here we sit in awe.
posted by Frasermoo at 9:24 AM on September 13, 2001


Obviously any publication that pays Ann Coulter for her writing won't, but she should be fired immediately for this overtly racist article. I guess National Review will publish anything, as long as it's appropriately hateful.

I only hope it was written out of blinding stupidity, and not out of a cynical desire to increase her number of appearances as a talking head.

Unbelievable. I hope this column comes back to haunt her someday.
posted by dweingart at 9:24 AM on September 13, 2001


Wow, Frasermoo, that's a crap-load of unconnected things all thrown together like they mean something.

Yes, it is sick that some Americans support the IRA.
The IRA is wrong for terrorizing England no matter their position.
I'm sure that you also have nutjobs in England along the lines of Coulter.
Christ, she's just an idiot columnist.
And yes, yours was not a constructive post.
posted by amanda at 9:25 AM on September 13, 2001


America was formed out attempts to gain freedom of religion from England.

And ended up governed much more by religious groups than England. (Banning the teaching of evolution for example). Ironic no?

Moral of the story: Everywhere are bastards.

Agreed.
posted by MintSauce at 9:25 AM on September 13, 2001


So glenwood, you reckon Frasermoo should rephrase to: "It's reading things like this that make me glad to have half a brain" instead, as he can see what is so wrong with that article.

Co-rrect.

And ended up governed much more by religious groups than England. (Banning the teaching of evolution for example). Ironic no?

I'm not going to let you take us there. I was attempting to show that we, as a WORLD, are in the same boat. Surrounded by bigots and shitbags with no couth. Dig?
posted by glenwood at 9:29 AM on September 13, 2001


Well, i got two links in my post. I thought that was good?

For the last two days I have sat glued to my TV. Only this morning I found out a friend of mine who works in the WTC is alive.

I've got perspective, and if my post evoked a response from anyone including you Amanda, it was constructive.
posted by Frasermoo at 9:30 AM on September 13, 2001


No apparent awareness on Coulter's part that the Third Reich was officially a "Christian" regime.

In that context, you're right to put "Christian" in scare quotes. "Official" was also an appropriate modifier. Hitler publicly used Christianity as propaganda, but actually intended it's elimination from Germany.

Monsters always seem to cloak their evil in the guise of good. Both Islam and Christianity have had their precepts distorted beyond all reality in order to "justify" terrible atrocities.
posted by gd779 at 9:30 AM on September 13, 2001


I thought I couldn't get sicker after watching O'Reilly, Bennet, and some other blowhard Cliff Clavin on "the Factor" last night congratulating their own brilliance as they discussed the use of our military as an international lynch mob. As usual, I was wrong.

What makes Ms. Coulter's inflammatory, undemocratic, racist lunacy so much more disturbing is that (as glenwood points out) it is likely not even sincere lunacy.
posted by hodgman at 9:32 AM on September 13, 2001 [3 favorites]


By the way, Barbra Olson was trying to save her own ass.

Spare us the "hero" routine.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 9:33 AM on September 13, 2001


amanda: when normally shrill papers such as the Sun are deliberately moderating their tone, in order to stave off reprisals on British Muslims, Coulter's kneejerkery appears all the more thick-headed.
posted by holgate at 9:33 AM on September 13, 2001


We are so good and so pure we would never engage in discriminatory racial or "religious" profiling.

No, we leave that up to our local police, not the federal government.


She generously praised one of my recent columns and told me I had really found my niche.

Just like Goebbels found his!
posted by malmec at 9:33 AM on September 13, 2001


So in the name of the Jews, Muslims, Hindi, Buddhists, Rastafarians, and a whole passle of atheists and agnostics killed on Tuesday, were going to convert people to Islam? Why do I feel like she didn't think this argument through?
posted by chino at 9:35 AM on September 13, 2001


what a painfully stupid woman.
posted by mcsweetie at 9:35 AM on September 13, 2001


I'm not going to let you take us there. I was attempting to show that we, as a WORLD, are in the same boat. Surrounded by bigots and shitbags with no couth. Dig?

Dig ... I agreed with that statement in my first post. I was just putting your religious 'freedom' into perspective.
posted by MintSauce at 9:36 AM on September 13, 2001


BarneyFifesBullet: "As far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved." Ugh.

The ugliness that keeps coming out of this tragedy never ceases to amaze me. If I properly infer the meaning of that statement: People who have political beliefs with which I disagree may deserve to die. How is that any different from what Ann Coulter herself was advocating?

This is one of those situations where we see that people on "opposite ends of the spectrum" are actually just mirror images of each other -- close enough to reach out and touch.
posted by pardonyou? at 9:37 AM on September 13, 2001


And ended up governed much more by religious groups than England. (Banning the teaching of evolution for example). Ironic no?

Not at all. The first settlers left England because England wasn't conservative enough in its religion. The United States was essentially founded as a religious state--not dissimilar to Israel, for example.

now back to your thread....
posted by jpoulos at 9:38 AM on September 13, 2001


Oops. To Christianity, I mean.
posted by chino at 9:38 AM on September 13, 2001


Ms. Coulter is the worst kind of opportunistic political hack and her "suggestions" are sick and absurd. Talk about taking a pistol out and shooting your credibility all to hell...

'I've never seen such a far-right christian fascist romping through the media in England'

Yeah, it's been about 700 or so years for y'all, right? :)
posted by estopped at 9:42 AM on September 13, 2001


Her normal rhetoric aside, this is beyond belief for even Ann Coulter. If she actually believes what she wrote and thinks it's a reasonable or rational response -- that's just screwed up.
posted by realityblurred at 9:42 AM on September 13, 2001


I have loved Ann Coulter (big surprise, eh?) but I can't stand with her here. That she was friends(-s ly) with Barbara Olson, doesn't excuse those last two graphs. But:

am guessing she didn't see the BBC footage of Christians throwing rocks at Catholic school children and their mothers in Ireland last week.

Which had as much to do with Christianity as Islam had to do with planes smashing into buildings. People often do things in the name of religion, or while being viewed as representatives of their named religion that are condemned by the very teachings of what they supposedly believe. We all know that. We've seen examples of that from the Crusades to the Holocaust to the Taliban.

Those who have gone on violent and murderous rampages in Northern Ireland and Adolph Hitler are no more true followers of Christianity than Osama bin Laden, and he is no more a righteous Muslim than Pat Robertson. Both of these religions forbid murder, forbid violence against the innocent. We only do more damage by suggesting that these religions in their true forms have anything to do with these acts. Especially now, by continuing to promote the Arab = Islamic = Terrorist concept we will continue to see Mosques attacked and Arab (or merely dark-skinned) peoples of all religions being held up for contempt on our streets.
posted by Dreama at 9:43 AM on September 13, 2001


So far through all this mess I haven't felt angry at anyone. Until now.

Fuck her, fuck her religion, fuck her attitude that her god is the one we need people to belive in. Seems it was that kind of thinking that caused this attack in the first place.
posted by bondcliff at 9:47 AM on September 13, 2001


America may have been settled in part by religous people. However I understood that a significant factor in the forming of an independant America was taxation.

Moral of the story: Everywhere are taxes.
posted by jackspot at 9:48 AM on September 13, 2001


only things definite in life my friend. death and taxes.
posted by Frasermoo at 9:50 AM on September 13, 2001


I wonder whether she's kicked her daily darkie today — physically, I mean.

(Disclaimer - I am a darkie and none too happy with the thundering silence on the news regarding the sometimes violent racist incidents against people of color going on all over the Western Hemisphere in response to the tragedy.)

By the way, chino — you took the words right out of my keyboard.
posted by mirla at 9:51 AM on September 13, 2001


Ann is off her rocker on this one! Still... "I can't decide if that column made me more or less sick than the events on Tuesday. "

If you can't decide then you are one sick person. I'd rather encounter 10,000 stupid, hate-filled newspaper columns than a single innocent person killed .
posted by revbrian at 9:51 AM on September 13, 2001


People who have political beliefs with which I disagree may deserve to die.

Whoa there, Hoss...

I didn't say that.

I did say that it was a pathetic comment to make, and it is.

It's the kind of extreme reaction people like her create.

It's not that she was a conservative, she was a fascist and they can come from any direction.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 9:52 AM on September 13, 2001


For all those who think such a stupid woman couldn't appear in the UK press I have one thing to say: Lynda Lee Potter. This sounds very very much like her.
posted by Summer at 10:01 AM on September 13, 2001


Disclaimer - I am a darkie and none too happy with the thundering silence on the news regarding the sometimes violent racist incidents against people of color going on all over the Western Hemisphere in response to the tragedy.

The first news I heard this morning was about incidents like that, and President Bush just addressed the issue of anti-Arab-American and anti-Muslim prejudice. The media hasn't been silent on this topic.
posted by rcade at 10:01 AM on September 13, 2001


Sadly, Coulter's feelings are all too common, even among our elected officials: [quote from AP article]

"I say, bomb the hell out of them," Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., said Wednesday. "If there's collateral damage, so be it. They certainly found our civilians to be expendable."
posted by turaho at 10:06 AM on September 13, 2001


Here, I have an idea....

Let's strap Coulter, Falwell, et al onto our high-tech weaponry, and whenever the deal goes down on bin Laden or whoever, we can get rid of our intolerant bastards at the same time as we take care of the perpetrators of this mess. Serves 'em all f***ing right I say.

Here's yet another reason I am fast becoming an atheist.
posted by PeteyStock at 10:10 AM on September 13, 2001


We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. I know that a high percentage of Americans are Christian, but we're not ALL Christians, even if we ARE blond. ;-) And I know this assumption can be made deliberately for manipulation or out of ignorance, thinking everyone here is "the same" and "against them", etc. Either way it annoys me. ...but to state we should 'convert them' puts her in the same league as any religious fanatic on any continent. Indeed. What amazes me is when (fundamentalist - do not want to generalize here!) Christian politicians say things like, "evil deed" or "ungodlike deed" and fundamentalist middle eastern terrorists might say that they did it FOR god. Okay - THAT doesn't amaze me - what amazes me is when you can look at them and see that Original Star Trek Episode of the black/white man and the white/black man - mirror images. (Can't remember what it's called.) Yelling at the mirror doesn't do any good - LOL.
posted by thunder at 10:11 AM on September 13, 2001


Coulter is obviously grieving. Not that this in any way excuses her exceptionally poor judgment in penning and submitting a column while in this state, or her editors' in publishing it.
posted by kindall at 10:12 AM on September 13, 2001


Let's strap Coulter, Falwell, et al onto our high-tech weaponry, and whenever the deal goes down on bin Laden or whoever, we can get rid of our intolerant bastards at the same time as we take care of the perpetrators of this mess. Serves 'em all f***ing right I say.

Then you're every bit as anti-American as Coulter's ilk. To silence evil is to give it stealth (yes I wrote that myself).

Here's yet another reason I am fast becoming an atheist.

?? If there is a God, he doesn't appear to control what people say. Free will and all that. Why should the opinions of assholes influence your spiritual life?
posted by glenwood at 10:13 AM on September 13, 2001


We only do more damage by suggesting that these religions in their true forms have anything to do with these acts.

Wow. Tell it, sister. Dreama, usually I can't disagree with you fast enough. But your contribution to this thread is the clearest, most cogent summation of the topic that I've seen. Thanks for that.
posted by Zettai at 10:25 AM on September 13, 2001


'We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

It's the christian thing to do! Yay, organized religion!
posted by hotdoughnutsnow at 10:26 AM on September 13, 2001


Coulter's kneejerkery appears all the more thick-headed
She's probably smarter than that: I think Coulter has long ago realized that she doesn't know much about issues, she's not a journalist, she's not that interesting and viewers don't find her particularly nice. Therefore she decided to play the, as some guys has already said, the "Blonde Fascist". She managed to carve herself a place in the talking head market.
Of course she's outrageous -- she doesn't have the brains to think about anything subtler than that terrible, terrible, piece.
posted by matteo at 10:30 AM on September 13, 2001


With all this bandying about of the term "Christian" and the foolish things a lot of people are saying who call themselves such, I think it is important to look to the words of Jesus Christ, the only true measure of what a "Christian" response should be.

In part, the Sermon on the Mount says this:

"You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.'
But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.
If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.
Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two.
Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.
You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR and hate your enemy.'
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?
Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
posted by gazingus at 10:39 AM on September 13, 2001


That woman is horrifying. Her defence of racial/religious profiling makes me ill. I'm wondering how, exactly, white-bread Idaho potato-farmer looking kids like Timothy McVeigh, the unibomber, and Canadian serial rapist and murder Paul Bernardo (the whitest of the white) fit into that little game. Good good. Let the white folk have their freedom. Shackle the muslims, don't read them their rights, throw them into internment camps and live with the guilt of stupidity, racism, and cruelty for hundreds of years afterward. Your children will be so proud.
posted by Hildegarde at 10:52 AM on September 13, 2001


"I say, bomb the hell out of them," Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga., said Wednesday. "If there's collateral damage, so be it. They certainly found our civilians to be expendable."

A disgusting and shortsighted comment, just the sort of thing to fuel the "Trigger happy Americans don't give a fuck about anyone else" stereotype.
posted by iain at 10:55 AM on September 13, 2001


Your children will be so proud.

The worst part is that they probably would be proud. Damn.
posted by estopped at 11:03 AM on September 13, 2001


The Sermon on the Mount = one of the most beautiful and most ignored passages of the New Testament.

BTW: I'm an atheist, but truth is still truth.
posted by theMargin at 11:08 AM on September 13, 2001


'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind' as someone pointed out to me the other day.
posted by iain at 11:12 AM on September 13, 2001


You are nothing but worthless if all you do is talk.

Thanks for spending 216 words on this sage advice. You're right. The last thing we should do is try and talk things out and make sense of our thoughts and feelings.
posted by Skot at 11:26 AM on September 13, 2001


It's offensive that Ann Coulter would suggest forced conversion to Christianity. I'm a liberal, I believe in freedom, I want peace. But we can't have peace if people force war upon us, especially if they use the excuse of religion to justify their hate. When they do that, when they pervert faith, when they attack Americans, we need to sheath our liberalism and attack and conquer them. Here's a link to a much better article from the National Review that explains why we must kill those who would kill us — http://www.nationalreview.com/01oct01/war_pryce-jones100101.shtml
posted by verus at 11:30 AM on September 13, 2001


You are nothing but worthless if all you do is talk. In short, SHUT THE FUCK UP. I will do so now.

It's nice to see that you joined us just in the nick of time to present your views (i.e. you're a brand new member to MeFi). Frankly, what use is it to absorb information unless you can bounce it off others, analyze responses, and formulate new positions and plans for action? And I'm not talking about political position here.

Your basic thesis makes sense to me but the presentation's way out of line. Has anyone here actually complained about anything so trivial as longer waiting times in airports and, if so, why do you think their credibility would be unquestioned? Do you really think that everyone (or anyone for that matter) just sits here without giving blood/money/time to the cause or going to support marches/meetings? I don't.

Personally, I am glad that people are talking online. It makes life bearable after this disaster until I can see my friends and relatives.
posted by estopped at 11:30 AM on September 13, 2001


I will do so now.

I betcha won't...
posted by jpoulos at 11:33 AM on September 13, 2001


Announcer: posting the exact same text, on two different threads, doesn't do much for anyone.
posted by adampsyche at 11:34 AM on September 13, 2001


Announcer: No.

Revbrian: If you can't decide then you are one sick person. I'd rather encounter 10,000 stupid, hate-filled newspaper columns than a single innocent person killed .

Whoa, slow down there buddy. I agree with you and am sickened by innocents/anyone dying. My point was that I'm still so much in shock of what happened that I can't yet feel ill about that... I can, however, read words that instead of helping me feel better, continue to push me over the edge. And that makes me sick.
posted by crawl at 11:42 AM on September 13, 2001


Tonight on Ann Coulter Cinema:

Triumph of the Will followed by Birth of a Nation
posted by thewittyname at 11:50 AM on September 13, 2001


estopped said
"Your basic thesis makes sense to me but the presentation's way out of line. Has anyone here actually complained about anything so trivial as longer waiting times in airports and, if so, why do you think their credibility would be unquestioned? Do you really think that everyone (or anyone for that matter) just sits here without giving blood/money/time to the cause or going to support marches/meetings? I don't.


i have to say, estopped, that the most damned intelligent thing i have read - EVER - here at MeFi. you single-handedly just changed my thinking about this place - honestly. no, i didn't think everyone posting here were a bunch of losers, but at times i have wondered where the value was in a lot of talk. i hate to resort to "it's all so clear to me now", but hey, it works for the occasion. thanks for the intelligent words.

on to the subject. racial profiling? idiotic. enhanced security? a need. converting all of them (whoever "them" might be at the moment) to Christianity - preposterous. i have to say i understand this author's anger, but watching what comes out of the mouth is ever so important. people seem to skip right over the important, COMMON SENSE stuff in the Bible, and would rather RIP verses completely out of context for monetary, political, and personal gain. let' see if we can shed some light for this misinformed lady here:

"All day long you plot destruction. Your tongue cuts like a sharp razor; you're an expert at telling lies. " Psalm 52:2

"O deceptive tongue, what will God do to you? How will he increase your punishment? " Psalm 120:3

"16)There are six things the LORD hates--no, seven things he detests: 17) haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, 18) a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong," Proverbs 6:16-18

"So also, the tongue is a small thing, but what enormous damage it can do. A tiny spark can set a great forest on fire. " James 3:5

"And the tongue is a flame of fire. It is full of wickedness that can ruin your whole life. It can turn the entire course of your life into a blazing flame of destruction, for it is set on fire by hell itself." James 3:6

i could go on and on. if this woman indeed wants to convert ANYONE to Christianity, i suggest she read up on it a bit more.

if people have editorial skills, now is the time to use them to build up, to help, to provide useful information, not allow your anger to turn your own mouth into a lethal weapon. its is time to build, not tear down. i know *my* God (that would be Christ, just so the author knows) would have it NO other way.
posted by sixandone at 12:13 PM on September 13, 2001


Just in case you can't get enough of the Foxy Fascist, here's a link to a fan site. Dig that leggy photo! Zowee!

And if that's not enough Ann for you, here's a link just chock full of sexy photos.

These are really weird pages. Not the content, just the imagery. It's like those X10 ads selling webcams with the pictures of beautiful women but they're "selling" a political ideology with sex. Maybe soon political ads will be like beer ads.
posted by estopped at 1:03 PM on September 13, 2001


The Sermon on the Mount = one of the most beautiful and most ignored passages of the New Testament.
You'll be glad to know that Bill Gates, as a schoolkid, committed it all to memory and won a prize for this feat. Check out his biography if you don't believe me
posted by matteo at 1:04 PM on September 13, 2001


It's because of people like Ms. Coulter that we were attacked in the first place.
posted by skechada at 1:09 PM on September 13, 2001


For those of you interested in responding to Ann Coulter's column.
posted by Sinner at 2:51 PM on September 13, 2001


As far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved.

A pathetic thing to say, but that's the kind of hatred disgusting people like her create.


After I get through puking, I'll someday explain to you what a revolting hypocrite you are.
posted by mikewas at 3:49 PM on September 13, 2001


"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

The events of this week have mainly had the effect of bringing moderates on both sides of the political spectrum together. Unfortunately, it appears to have also pushed those on the outer edges completely off the scale. In times like this, we can see various politicians and media pundits for what they really are.

Also, to the above posters, I should point out that Ann is not a real blonde.
posted by MindRave at 5:22 PM on September 13, 2001


The letter I wrote to National Review:

Ann Coulter's column acheived a rare trifecta being simultaneously moronic, racist, and un-Christian. As far as I can tell, the course of action she recommends involves the indiscriminate slaughter of non-combatants and forced religious conversation of the infidel. While a 21st century revival of the Crusades and the Inquisition may have a certain romantic appeal to those nostalgic for the Dark Ages as a public policy prescription for those not totally insane it leaves something to be desired.

Ms. Coulter's column can perhaps be understood, if not excused, as the product of a mind unhinged by grief. What is the excuse of the editior who chose to run it?
posted by adiladub at 6:30 PM on September 13, 2001


(barfs)

(barfs again)

She was only half-cocked, until she got to that part about converting "them" to christianity.

As if nobody has ever been killed in the name of christianity.

(more barfing)
posted by davidmsc at 8:20 PM on September 13, 2001


An example of a particulary nasty bigot. We need more Barbara Olsens, living in Afghanistan!
posted by yatesj at 12:24 AM on September 18, 2001


Sorry! Read Ann Coulter instead of Barbara Olsen.
posted by yatesj at 12:28 AM on September 18, 2001


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