Food and bevarage .Cured ham it is an european invention.
April 16, 2011 1:37 AM Subscribe
Jamon iberico bellota .The spanish version of european cured ham Different cultures have different diets.
Island diets are generally based on fish, continental diet are usally based on meat.
Durinf the middle age Europe face to the problem to find and keep an stable source of proteins for the popular diet.
Being the case that Europe has both coast and inner lands, and our present communications allow us to transport the fish to the inner lands in less than 24 hours, during the middle age this transport communications where unexisting and the pure continental villages need to have an stable source of proteins.
Pig was the cheaper source of proteins because the variety of its diet, the possibility to be lairaged and feed with the domestic food rest and rubbish, and the number of babies it provides greater tha cows or horses.
Te next problem was how to keep the pork meat it provides, in such a way that could be consume during the all year.
This situation was general in all the countries of Europe in the middle age and differents solutions where necessarily adopted.
The spanish solution was this: To separate the legs and not to cut them.Then to salt then and then to let them dry for 24 months by hanging them in bars placed in the higher floors of the houses near the roof. Once the legs where dried , the hams could be used for three years as and exquisite meat that could be eaten alone or combined with others kinds of food.
This process of slating plus drying was cold curing. It has survived from the middle age to nowdays and it is been exported to all the world as an spanish contribution to the world gastronomy.
Being the case that Europe has both coast and inner lands, and our present communications allow us to transport the fish to the inner lands in less than 24 hours, during the middle age this transport communications where unexisting and the pure continental villages need to have an stable source of proteins.
Pig was the cheaper source of proteins because the variety of its diet, the possibility to be lairaged and feed with the domestic food rest and rubbish, and the number of babies it provides greater tha cows or horses.
Te next problem was how to keep the pork meat it provides, in such a way that could be consume during the all year.
This situation was general in all the countries of Europe in the middle age and differents solutions where necessarily adopted.
The spanish solution was this: To separate the legs and not to cut them.Then to salt then and then to let them dry for 24 months by hanging them in bars placed in the higher floors of the houses near the roof. Once the legs where dried , the hams could be used for three years as and exquisite meat that could be eaten alone or combined with others kinds of food.
This process of slating plus drying was cold curing. It has survived from the middle age to nowdays and it is been exported to all the world as an spanish contribution to the world gastronomy.
This post was deleted for the following reason: Hamon spam: the newest delicacy -- mathowie
This seems like a lot of work to go to to sell ham to MeFites.
posted by Scattercat at 1:54 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by Scattercat at 1:54 AM on April 16, 2011
For sales enquiries, contact:
Ibéricos Propios IBERPRO
radvla1@telefonica.net
Tel : int 34917824669
Fax: int+34915615626
Crtra. N_V, Km 240
TORRECILLAS DE LA TIESA(Cáceres)
Pepsi and ham tonight!
posted by run"monty at 2:09 AM on April 16, 2011
Ibéricos Propios IBERPRO
radvla1@telefonica.net
Tel : int 34917824669
Fax: int+34915615626
Crtra. N_V, Km 240
TORRECILLAS DE LA TIESA(Cáceres)
Pepsi and ham tonight!
posted by run"monty at 2:09 AM on April 16, 2011
...aside from that, his prices seem quite reasonable.
posted by run"monty at 2:11 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by run"monty at 2:11 AM on April 16, 2011
spam is made from pork, right?
posted by juv3nal at 2:17 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by juv3nal at 2:17 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
Radvia's profile links to a domain beginning in http://www.jamonde.... They are obviously a shoulder-of-porkless spammer.
posted by davemee at 2:19 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by davemee at 2:19 AM on April 16, 2011
Dang, I was super excited to see a post about ham/prosciutto/jamón ibérico. Alas. Tasty stuff. Someone should make a real post.
also learned a new word, lairage, which apparently means a smallish space in which the critter is tied up but still able to move around and stand up and lie down etc. as is appropriate for the critter?
posted by librarina at 2:25 AM on April 16, 2011
also learned a new word, lairage, which apparently means a smallish space in which the critter is tied up but still able to move around and stand up and lie down etc. as is appropriate for the critter?
posted by librarina at 2:25 AM on April 16, 2011
probably a self link...see the contact info on the pork website
posted by lampshade at 2:27 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by lampshade at 2:27 AM on April 16, 2011
Oregon bars close at 2:30am. So the banhammer should be stumbling home any minute now...
posted by ryanrs at 2:29 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by ryanrs at 2:29 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
If the spam is light can be car at shaving as the rest of the pork.
posted by katillathehun at 2:31 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by katillathehun at 2:31 AM on April 16, 2011
PORQUE
posted by Avenger at 2:42 AM on April 16, 2011 [8 favorites]
posted by Avenger at 2:42 AM on April 16, 2011 [8 favorites]
This is why the Messenger (pbuh) told us the pig is haram.
posted by orthogonality at 2:45 AM on April 16, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by orthogonality at 2:45 AM on April 16, 2011 [3 favorites]
Damn. I too, feel there should be a quality post on cured meats. I managed to smuggle curing salts back into Japan this time round, and I'm looking forward to attempting my own corned beef, Spanish chorizo, and andouille. Cured pork is truly a gift from someone who loves us, be they gods or that really nice butcher at the store.
Spam, on the other hand, not so much.
posted by Ghidorah at 2:48 AM on April 16, 2011
Spam, on the other hand, not so much.
posted by Ghidorah at 2:48 AM on April 16, 2011
A spammer... who is actually selling ham.
I am shaking my head in wonderment.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:00 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
I am shaking my head in wonderment.
posted by louche mustachio at 3:00 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
I heard of hamming it up, but this is ridiculous.
*wiggles cigar*
posted by chillmost at 3:05 AM on April 16, 2011
*wiggles cigar*
posted by chillmost at 3:05 AM on April 16, 2011
On the bright side, radvla's comments about moustaches are very informative.
posted by robself at 3:07 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by robself at 3:07 AM on April 16, 2011
tonight for dinner, mustaches and ham. at prices so low, you'll say "no shit!"
posted by molecicco at 3:10 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by molecicco at 3:10 AM on April 16, 2011
I am hoping for a really good ham/banhammer pun when this thread gets whacked.
posted by dubold at 3:13 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by dubold at 3:13 AM on April 16, 2011
Hey!
Did the rest of you see the Scott Adams flameout? He joined metafilter as user plannedchaos to defend his writing in the third person. LOLs abound.
posted by ryanrs at 3:14 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
Did the rest of you see the Scott Adams flameout? He joined metafilter as user plannedchaos to defend his writing in the third person. LOLs abound.
posted by ryanrs at 3:14 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
In other metafilter news, the precise nature of 'taters' has been revealed!
(I figure anyone still reading this thread would want to know these things.)
posted by ryanrs at 3:20 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
(I figure anyone still reading this thread would want to know these things.)
posted by ryanrs at 3:20 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
Looks like this shitty post's chances of surviving have been...
*takes off glasses*
Hampered.
YEEEAAAAAAHHHH
posted by Rhomboid at 3:22 AM on April 16, 2011 [6 favorites]
*takes off glasses*
Hampered.
YEEEAAAAAAHHHH
posted by Rhomboid at 3:22 AM on April 16, 2011 [6 favorites]
very difficult to make and harder to find local meat market who sells them in orange county Ca.
posted by taxpayer at 3:29 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by taxpayer at 3:29 AM on April 16, 2011
I WAS HERE FOR THE EPIC HAM SPAM THREAD #102577
Now I'm curious about salt-curing a block of Spam and thinly shaving it. I'm also pondering that the world would likely be a better place without it.
posted by loquacious at 3:34 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
Now I'm curious about salt-curing a block of Spam and thinly shaving it. I'm also pondering that the world would likely be a better place without it.
posted by loquacious at 3:34 AM on April 16, 2011 [1 favorite]
" It has survived from the middle age to nowdays" which is more than we can say about this post....
posted by tomswift at 3:35 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by tomswift at 3:35 AM on April 16, 2011
that said, the mods have been remarkably slow on the draw
posted by ryanrs at 3:42 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by ryanrs at 3:42 AM on April 16, 2011
I can't be mad at this post, even though I know I should be. That word lairaged is going to come in handy forever onward in cubicle world. And now I really want a salted pork post, a real one. And also a sandwich.
posted by biddeford at 3:58 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by biddeford at 3:58 AM on April 16, 2011
"lairaged"... yeah, i had to look that one up.... ( If I was Scott Adams, I would have known what it meant...)
posted by tomswift at 4:04 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by tomswift at 4:04 AM on April 16, 2011
I wonder how much time Scott Adams spends defending himself on the internets? He might be the lame Kibo of tech web forums.
posted by ryanrs at 4:09 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by ryanrs at 4:09 AM on April 16, 2011
Wow, I never get to post in these!
(and what a waste of time it was)
posted by mmoncur at 4:10 AM on April 16, 2011
(and what a waste of time it was)
posted by mmoncur at 4:10 AM on April 16, 2011
Ay que dolor en mi patas! Donde de cortex y jessamyn?!?
posted by Avenger at 4:15 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by Avenger at 4:15 AM on April 16, 2011
So, has anyone tried calling the poster? I'm not sober enough to be making harassing international phone calls in a foreign langauge, but I feel that someone should.
posted by ryanrs at 4:17 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by ryanrs at 4:17 AM on April 16, 2011
Spam, spam, spam and taters, spam and jambon, spam and famous people making complete idiots of themselves on the internet...
cmyk wuz heer
posted by cmyk at 4:29 AM on April 16, 2011
cmyk wuz heer
posted by cmyk at 4:29 AM on April 16, 2011
Favorite part of the lnked site? mine is the boilerplate text that they forgot to replace when they put up this online ham shop, showcased here as representing the best of the web, until the admins hope us. You can find it in the popup for the "More Information" link in the far lower left of the page: "Important: This demo is purely for demonstration purposes and all the content relating to products, services and events are fictional and are designed to showcase a live shopping site. All images are copyrighted to their respective owners.
This is not an actual store, non of the products are for sale and the information maybe inaccurate such as pricing."
posted by Stoatfarm at 4:36 AM on April 16, 2011
This is not an actual store, non of the products are for sale and the information maybe inaccurate such as pricing."
posted by Stoatfarm at 4:36 AM on April 16, 2011
This is not an actual store, non of the products are for sale and the information maybe inaccurate such as pricing
Wait, what??
Is this some sort of performance spam?
posted by biddeford at 4:41 AM on April 16, 2011
Wait, what??
Is this some sort of performance spam?
posted by biddeford at 4:41 AM on April 16, 2011
This is not an actual store, non of the products are for sale and the information maybe inaccurate such as pricing
Ah. Then no ham done, I guess.
posted by pracowity at 4:46 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
Ah. Then no ham done, I guess.
posted by pracowity at 4:46 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
Is this some sort of performance spam?
The tastiest sort! Also, light on calories.
posted by Ghidorah at 4:46 AM on April 16, 2011
The tastiest sort! Also, light on calories.
posted by Ghidorah at 4:46 AM on April 16, 2011
Where's that new mod? She's gonna get fired if she's not careful...
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:00 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:00 AM on April 16, 2011
I was looking for a Deadwood video of Wu's human remains-eating pig colony, but I found this disturbing artwork instead.
Sorry.
posted by biddeford at 5:07 AM on April 16, 2011
Sorry.
posted by biddeford at 5:07 AM on April 16, 2011
Love the ads on the disturbing artwork page:
Eco-friendly Disposable Tableware.
posted by ryanrs at 5:11 AM on April 16, 2011
Eco-friendly Disposable Tableware.
posted by ryanrs at 5:11 AM on April 16, 2011
Sure are a lard of bad puns in here.
posted by Ella Fynoe at 5:13 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by Ella Fynoe at 5:13 AM on April 16, 2011
que yo aún no
posted by SomeTrickPony at 5:15 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by SomeTrickPony at 5:15 AM on April 16, 2011
I come home sowced from the party to find this pig swill?
posted by artof.mulata at 5:17 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by artof.mulata at 5:17 AM on April 16, 2011
I'd post in here, but I'm off to eat some habas and jamon with huevos... Buenisimo!
posted by benzo8 at 5:20 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by benzo8 at 5:20 AM on April 16, 2011
So will this ham banner lead to the banhammer?
posted by AD_ at 5:22 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by AD_ at 5:22 AM on April 16, 2011 [2 favorites]
How do we know Radvla is not under the spell of alien mind control?
posted by artof.mulata at 5:23 AM on April 16, 2011
posted by artof.mulata at 5:23 AM on April 16, 2011
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