Comments on: She is not the one you should fear.

She is not the one you should fear.

Rumple — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:46:08 -0800

Amina A. is a Gay Girl in Damascus. On Tuesday, she was visited by the Syrian security services.

By: BrotherCaine

BrotherCaine — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:54:11 -0800

Wow.

By: kmz

kmz — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:54:41 -0800

Holy shit I'm crying. That is an unbelievably awesome family right there.

By: General Tonic

General Tonic — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:55:33 -0800

Wonderful! Let's all pray for the people of Syria, and hope for good news.

By: rmd1023

rmd1023 — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:57:05 -0800

Yow. just ... Yow. I am cheering her and thanking fate that I was born in a place where I don't have to worry about armed security staff pounding on my door because my partner is another woman.

By: longbaugh

longbaugh — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:59:40 -0800

That was fucking amazing. I can only hope that I am able to be 1/10th the father that he was.

By: shothotbot

shothotbot — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:00:45 -0800

Oh my god, I hope they all stay safe.

By: marmaduke_yaverland

marmaduke_yaverland — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:01:08 -0800

Wow. Just wow... Imagine having a dad to rival Atticus Finch. "I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand." Wow.

By: marienbad

marienbad — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:02:11 -0800

Holy shit I'm crying. That is an unbelievably awesome family right there. christ, so am i.

By: benito.strauss

benito.strauss — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:03:33 -0800

Choked up, to my own surprise.

By: thanotopsis

thanotopsis — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:03:49 -0800

marmaduke: Great comparison with Atticus Finch. Hadn't even thought of that.

By: cell divide

cell divide — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:05:23 -0800

As a father this makes me want to be as strong as her father in the face of evil. What a powerful post, opens up some of the primary issues in Syria in the microcosm of one person's struggle.

By: benito.strauss

benito.strauss — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:06:36 -0800

I wonder what her family name is, that it has such a strong affect?

By: gurple

gurple — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:07:47 -0800

I don't want to be a downer, but is there good reason to believe that this isn't a fake? It's tripping my too-perfect alarms. There's no reason it couldn't be real, of course. But I'm thinking back to an ancient deleted post about a blog, I think it was called "63 days", about a girl living through teen bootcamp hell in Utah -- ah, here's a reference. We were all kind of taken in by that for a while until it was discovered to be a fake, which was pretty disappointing.

By: Felex

Felex — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:14:23 -0800

I think this reaffirms my belief of what fathers are for. I do not care if its fake, Atticus Finch was fake, dude was still awesome and this could be real.

By: LogicalDash

LogicalDash — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:16:01 -0800

I note his wisdom in not actually addressing the grunts' virulent hatred and offensive views on sexuality. Since he wasn't trying to win an argument, but merely get them to comply, speaking in their context was the right thing to do.

By: BrotherCaine

BrotherCaine — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:16:26 -0800

I wonder what her family name is, that it has such a strong affect? I think it was more this: "What are you?" he says. "Did the jackal sleep with the monkey before you were born? What are your names?" They tell him. He nods "Your father," he says to the one who threatened to rape me, "does he know this is how you act? He was an officer, yes? And he served in ..." (he mentions exactly and then turns to the other) "and your mother? Wasn't she the daughter of ...?" They are both wide-eyed, yes, that is right, "What would they think if they heard how you act? I'm pretty sure the secret part of secret police is a big part of what permits them to be thugs with impunity.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:25:31 -0800

Damn. Yeah, I got pretty misty as well. Thanks for posting that.

By: Edgewise

Edgewise — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:29:52 -0800

What an amazing man.

By: chemoboy

chemoboy — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:36:04 -0800

This was awesome. I'm reading through the rest of the blog now.

By: gilrain

gilrain — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:37:55 -0800

How scary it would be to not be wealthy or well-connected enough to protect your family. I am less inspired by the personal courage shown here, which was great if true, than horrified by the realization of what the outcome would be for almost any other family in a similar situation.

By: kinnakeet

kinnakeet — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:41:52 -0800

This is a wonderful story... I'm so glad things like this don't just happen in books. So much wisdom and love. Humbling.

By: clockzero

clockzero — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:42:18 -0800

Whether or not incidents transpired exactly as they're depicted here, I think it's worth listening to the model for dealing with very challenging situations. If you use force, you invite a forceful retaliation. If you appeal to the basic goodness and sense of decency that almost everyone has, you may have a chance to force people to confront the fact that they know on some level that what they're doing is wrong. We can't pretend it's always so easy or so simple. But I think that even now, in the US where I live, people are so irresponsibly riled up by our various political parties that we fail to notice that we lose part of our humanity, or the best part of it, when we allow ourselves to be defined more by political faction than by a simpler and more noble orientation to our fellows-in-humanity; we all know that it is best to be kind, to assume no ill will, to be honest, fair, and compassionate. That we deviate from these so often in political conflicts is, perhaps, a result of the proliferation of discourses in which those people, those ones over there, mean us harm, and treating them as we know we should is not only a bad idea, but dangerous.

By: empath

empath — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:48:21 -0800

I hope that the Syrians can keep the protests mostly non-violent and stay unified. Given enough time, they will win.

By: Danf

Danf — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:57:18 -0800

I have a gay daughter, who, blessedly, has not been subject to anything like this. But, fuck, I wish I could be half the father this guy is.

By: Errant

Errant — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:08:22 -0800

I'm also not trying to hate, because I want this story to be true, but: is it possible that secret security forces, sent to pick up someone, would return without that someone when they're obviously not in hiding? I am sufficiently blessed so as not to have any idea how this might work.

By: qxntpqbbbqxl

qxntpqbbbqxl — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:11:41 -0800

Wow. Just, wow. Inspiring. Sad to think, though, that someone less well-connected would have fared much worse. Her father sends these guys running with veiled threats about who he knows and who his family is. MetaFilter: Did the jackal sleep with the monkey before you were born?

By: justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow

justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:27:13 -0800

Just for context, on Sunday Syrian security forces fired on a crowd of unarmed protesters and killed 90. On Monday Syrian tanks rolled into the Syrian town of Deraa; there are reports of indiscriminate killing there as well. I wonder what her family name is, that it has such a strong affect? "Your mother? Wasn't she the daughter of ...You know my cousins..." Possible translation: we're a big family, we stick together, and we know where your family lives. An implicit threat? They are the ones saying alawi, sunni, arabi, kurdi, duruzi, christian, everyone is the same and will be equal in the new Syria; they are the ones who, if the revolution comes, will be saving Your mother and your sisters...Your Bashar and your Maher, they will not live forever, they will not rule forever, and you both know that. So, if you want good things for yourselves in the future, you will leave and you will not take Amina with you. You will go back and you will tell the rest of yours that the people like her are the best friends the Alawi could ever have and you will not come for her again. That won the argument. The security services are going kill-crazy partly because they are terrified, seeing as a disproportionately high percentage of them are Alawi. They have reason to fear what might happen to their 10% of the population if the government fell. It's a good argument, but I'm astounded that her father was able to convince them of the value of tolerance on the fly.

By: empath

empath — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:48:35 -0800

This person sounds like he's well connected. I think that was 90% of what happened there.

By: limeonaire

limeonaire — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:51:19 -0800

Geez. What a story.

By: St. Alia of the Bunnies

St. Alia of the Bunnies — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:54:54 -0800

Well connected or not that was a heckuva story. That, my friends, is a man and a father.

By: thsmchnekllsfascists

thsmchnekllsfascists — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:55:46 -0800

Our cynicism gets rather impressive sometimes.

By: Edgewise

Edgewise — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:57:56 -0800

It's a good argument, but I'm astounded that her father was able to convince them of the value of tolerance on the fly. Though his words were both tremendously wise and even more courageous, I don't think he convinced those two worthless thugs of anything. He just shamed them into leaving by sheer force of personality and intelligence. What a pair of scumbags. is it possible that secret security forces, sent to pick up someone, would return without that someone when they're obviously not in hiding? I don't really know, either, although I get the impression that these "security forces" are mostly roving state-sponsored thugs who operate with near-impunity. Their real function is to intimidate the populace, and it sounds like they were doing their job well (with this wonderful exception).

By: pjern

pjern — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:21:49 -0800

Not much brings me to tears. This did. What an unbelievably lucky woman she is to have a father like that.

By: Shike

Shike — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:43:52 -0800

I'm a single dad with three kids, including an eight year old daughter. I want to be this kind of father.

By: straight

straight — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:03:19 -0800

is it possible that secret security forces, sent to pick up someone, would return without that someone when they're obviously not in hiding? The father implies in his speech that they may have been doing this on their own initiative and they might actually be held accountable for it by their superiors.

By: Shohn

Shohn — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:23:49 -0800

Whether or not this happened exactly as described (or at all, for that matter) doesn't make what it means any less true.

By: filthy light thief

filthy light thief — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:45:00 -0800

gurple: I don't want to be a downer, but is there good reason to believe that this isn't a fake? It's tripping my too-perfect alarms. If it's fake, someone is putting time into setting up the story. It started recently, and I don't know enough about Syria to judge the content, but the beginning sounds legit enough: Why I am doing this - February 21, 2011

I live in Damascus, Syria. It's a repressive police state. Most LGBT people are still deep in the closet or staying as invisible as possible. But I have set up a blog announcing my sexuality, with my name and my photo. Am I crazy? Maybe. But I'm also aware of the winds of freedom and change blowing from one end of the Arab world to the other. And I want that freedom wind to bring with it our liberation, not just as Arabs and as Syrians, but also as women and as lesbians.

By: cereselle

cereselle — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:49:53 -0800

That is one righteous rant. Thank you for posting. As a child of the 70s/80s, the thought of escaping to Beirut seems weird.

By: geoff.

geoff. — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:56:07 -0800

Whether or not this happened exactly as described (or at all, for that matter) doesn't make what it means any less true. ... yes it does! Things matter if they are true or not. This is a current event. People act on information from current events, it changes the narrative on both sides. If this is fiction it should be clearly marked as such. If I was a Syrian blogger, what did I find out from this? - Security forces are certainly monitoring English blogs, even ones of mild dissent like this one. You might say that one should suspect that security forces are reading blogs, but there's a huge leap from suspect to actually acting on it. - Security forces act autonomously enough, even though they have done copious research, have been monitoring the blog for some time, they can go back with their hands empty. Hey if they come to your door, stand up to them and read them the riot act! The thing that really tips me off as to this likely being fake or at least partially made up: the secret police are monitoring the blog, and you have just announced to everyone that you fought back and won. Hey maybe these guys told their superiors that this was all made up and the girl actually lived in London? They're busted now, and I have a feeling they're not letting the family off the hook.

By: geoff.

geoff. — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:59:12 -0800

And it looks like a real reporter from the Washington Post is trying to interview her, so hopefully we can end speculation sooner rather than later.

By: Sebmojo

Sebmojo — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:09:25 -0800

That gave me chills. Coming after reading all about ridiculous birth certificate shenanigans it.... huh. No words.

By: LogicalDash

LogicalDash — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:22:24 -0800

what is who busted for now? huh?

By: gilrain

gilrain — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:41:43 -0800

What geoff was saying is, if this is real and those thugs have people they need to report to, then the reason they were able to walk away is perhaps because they reported something like, "Yeah, well... we decided to, you know... "interrogate" them on-site. I don't think they'll be any more trouble. Ha ha, snicker." Now, if it gets checked up on, the cat is out of the bag and there could be repercussions.

By: gilrain

gilrain — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:45:09 -0800

That's just speculation. If it'd really happened to me, though. I'd be terrified. I would be grateful to be alive and unharmed. I would think really, really hard about posting it online as an inspirational story before getting to somewhere much safer. It seems foolhardy, tantamount to daring the thugs to defend their pride. She may be braver than me, though.

By: heyforfour

heyforfour — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:45:26 -0800

On the "family name" business - in addition to the "I know your cousin" approach to the security officers, this part: Do you know what is our family name? You do? Then you know where we stood when Muhammad, peace be upon him, went to Medina, you know who it was who liberated al Quds sounds like a reference to a historical figure, and I found a candidate here after a brief googling of "liberation of al-Quds" (Jerusalem): caliph `Umar ibn al-Khattāb . The part about the migration to Medina is referenced about halfway down, and he's referenced in the article on the 638 conquest of Jerusalem as well.

By: Errant

Errant — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:45:13 -0800

Just to be clear, I'm not calling bullshit on anything. I very much want to live in a world where murderous rapist thugs are dissuaded by a forceful, impassioned, and reasonable speech. I'm just astonished to discover it might actually be this one.

By: Xoebe

Xoebe — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:22:04 -0800

One of the odd side effects of the breakdown of the rule of law is that things like this can happen. Sure, mostly they don't, and mostly "security" agents do whatever the hell they want. The flip side of that, is they don't have to do what they don't want to. Of course, as I suggested, this kind of outcome is a rarity. If this story is true - there's no reason to think it isn't - you can bet that the sole reason she got off was because her father was able to identify the men, and knew their families. Cultures that cherish their families are beholden to the idea, if not always the reality, that they don't want to disappoint their families in any way, for any reason. This was brilliantly played by Dad. The rest of the speech just gave the men time to reflect, and gave them a face-saving way out - the threat was hidden behind the torrent of rhetoric. They could pretend to salvage their honor, but the reality is, they just don't want mommy and daddy knowing they are thugs.

By: luminous phenomena

luminous phenomena — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:31:04 -0800

While I agree with fact checking sources, we mustn't underestimate the importance of honor/shame and kinship in Middle Eastern cultures. Or, on preview, what Xoebe said...

By: tksh

tksh — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:33:54 -0800

If you have the time and interest, read her earlier entries where she posts the first chapters of her (unpublished) autobiography: Part 1: Family history: briefly Scottish and much more of Syrian Part 2: Birth, Syria's '82 suppression, and escape back to Virginia Part 3: Formative years, just being a regular girl Part 4: Teenage years, Iraqi war, goth years and being in love Part 5: Escape to Syria, self-discovery and joining the Sisterhood Part 1 is pretty dry but picks up by end of part 5. Made me wonder damn, how did she go from being a devout Muslim intent on banishing her sexuality to where she is today.

By: tksh

tksh — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:36:33 -0800

And in case anyone's wondering, her father is an engineer and her family is an old family, and if I'm reading in between the lines correctly, with certain connections despite no longer having the wealth.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:12:43 -0800

"Old family," hell. Her dad uses the family's connection to freaking Muhammad himself during the episode. The idea that this is a special family is hardly hidden, and hardly ammo for cynical dismissals.

By: roboton666

roboton666 — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:40:17 -0800

For every fake blog that can used as evidence to spur your inner skepticism there is one riverbend that can be used to spur your inner faith. God I hope this is the real deal, I want to believe there is hope for Dar Al Islam.

By: koeselitz

koeselitz — Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:24:06 -0800

geoff.: "The thing that really tips me off as to this likely being fake or at least partially made up: the secret police are monitoring the blog, and you have just announced to everyone that you fought back and won." "Monitoring?" Yeah, they're doing a hell of a job "monitoring" her blog. They've drawn from it the interesting conclusion that she's Salafi, so their "monitoring" must be assiduous. Look, I don't know if this thing is true or not, but it has the ring if truth; every detail is as it should be. Lest it need be said, the Syrian guard are not the East German Secret Police circa 1980. They do not keep copious notes on "subversives," and they do not "monitor" blogs for "suspicious activity." They decide to haul people in, and then they do it. If it's at night, it's even more likely that they're acting independently, with but a pretense of "orders." Most are largely acting on their own fears. The description of their motivations, in fact, is the thing that rings most true about this story.

By: Zed

Zed — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:16:03 -0800

The story does seem novelistically neat. But the world is a big place, and novelistically neat things really happen sometimes.

By: geoff.

geoff. — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:35:09 -0800

"Monitoring?" Yeah, they're doing a hell of a job "monitoring" her blog. They've drawn from it the interesting conclusion that she's Salafi, so their "monitoring" must be assiduous. Thanks for clearing that up. I was perhaps equating the Syrian guard too much with the Stasi. I realized they're not as organized, but reading the blog post made me believe there was at least some rudimentary organization was present. I assumed the Salafi thing was a purposeful misdirection to throw them off, but again, I'm thinking of Stasi-level interrogation techniques. If the Syrian guard is less The Lives of Others and much more thuggish as you make them out to be, this becomes a lot more believable.

By: antifuse

antifuse — Wed, 04 May 2011 06:25:57 -0800

While I loved this story, it also makes me sad to think what is happening to all the other families who aren't well connected and wealthy. Her father was lucky enough to know these thugs and their families, I'm sure very few people could say the same. My guess is the father did little to convince them of the values of tolerance, and a better job of convincing them "Yeah, we need to pick on poor people more, it's way easier"

By: Mchelly

Mchelly — Thu, 05 May 2011 11:59:43 -0800

Her latest update says they came back and she's on the run.

By: rmd1023

rmd1023 — Thu, 05 May 2011 13:52:41 -0800

Yikes. Good luck to her staying safe.

By: antifuse

antifuse — Fri, 06 May 2011 13:01:27 -0800

That most recent post really makes it start to sound like something out of a thriller novel. I know that such things *do* happen in real life, but reading this:

Yesterday, I went home for a bit. As I got close to the house, I saw that there were two of Them outside the front door. There's more than one way into my house and some are pretty well hidden. Not even all the family knows all of them. I used one of those and got inside.

It really does read like something you'd see in an airport-bookstore-bestseller.

By: antifuse

antifuse — Fri, 06 May 2011 13:02:23 -0800

Note: I'm not saying this is fake... But hoo boy, I would *so* not be surprised if we find out 6 months from now that it is.

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Sat, 07 May 2011 12:02:33 -0800

Where is Obama's support of Syrian democracy? A Syrian rights campaigner told the AFP news agency that security forces killed four women who were among about 150 people demonstrating on Saturday on the main coastal highway from Marqab village, near Baniyas, calling for the release of detained people. "the existence of the regime is like an invasion of the state, a colonisation of society" where "hundreds of intellectuals are forbidden to travel, 150,000 have gone into exile and 17,000 have either disappeared or been imprisoned for expressing their opinion.

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Sun, 08 May 2011 01:49:03 -0800

The Guardian runs the story. Update 8 May safe but in hiding.

By: empath

empath — Sun, 08 May 2011 09:30:36 -0800

Where is Obama's support of Syrian democracy? Yeah, why don't we bomb them, too.

By: homunculus

homunculus — Sun, 08 May 2011 09:59:24 -0800

Iran helping Syrian regime crack down on protesters, say diplomats. Claim comes as four women shot dead by security forces in first use of violence against an all-female demonstration

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Sun, 08 May 2011 11:50:22 -0800

The Complexities of Syria's Violence

By: homunculus

homunculus — Sun, 15 May 2011 17:05:52 -0800

New entry: Nakba Day 2011

By: homunculus

homunculus — Sun, 15 May 2011 17:12:31 -0800

In other news: Donkeys Take Over From DSL as Syria Shuts Down Internet

By: Surfurrus

Surfurrus — Wed, 18 May 2011 23:19:06 -0800

adamvasco, thank you for that link. I have been watching some of my Syrian students on FB; they are very careful not to openly state their allegiances. So much information coming out of Syria now is just hearsay. Of course there are 'agents of violence' implanted in the peaceful protests -- there always are. Still, there is the possibility that the protesters are actually mostly made up of violent factions seeking a civil war. Of course that doesn't excuse the state violence, but it sure makes any real reform in the government unlikely (no matter who wins the 'civil war'). The thing that bugs me - as Anna Haq says -- is that the likelihood that we will get the real story about any of this is about as dim as finding out if this gay blogger girl is real. People end up believing what they want to believe.

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Thu, 19 May 2011 01:11:14 -0800

Surfurrus, I don't blame them for not stating their allegiances. It seems the Mukhabrat is all over facebook. On Tuesday Amina crossposted an interesting list of those in the regime perpetrating violence. via. At the end the list mentions Al-Shabiha a right wing militia approved by the regime. One of the immediate battles is to get information out and mainstream media is not paying too much attention prefering to see what Obama has to say., and what ever he says is not going to stop the imprisonment and torture of the Syrian populace by the goon squads. So the stage is being set for Civil War and as Robert Fisk also points out Truth and reconciliation? It won't happen in Syria. Since these articles were published Syria has attempted to crush any dissent with tanks, so I think things will only get worse.

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Sun, 22 May 2011 00:28:31 -0800

Women on the frontline of demonstrations against Syria's brutal regime are now being targeted by security forces.

By: adamvasco

adamvasco — Sun, 22 May 2011 00:34:19 -0800

Dorothy Parvaz is an Al Jazeera journalist who disappeared in Syria for 19 days. She writes about her experiance: Inside Syria's secret prisons