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	<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:37:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Music to my ears.</title>
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		<description>New from the Library of Congress, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/&quot;&gt;National Jukebox&lt;/a&gt;, where you can listen to 10,000 rare historic sound recordings.  (Streaming only, requires flash and javascript.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:31:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fings</dc:creator>		<category>libraryofcongress</category>		<category>loc</category>		<category>history</category>		<category>music</category>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687036</link>	
		<description>This is cool and all, but I think it goes to show how absurd our copyright laws are that there is nothing here past 1929.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act&quot;&gt;thanks mickey mouse!&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:37:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Curious Artificer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687061</link>	
		<description>Teddy Roosevelt didn&apos;t sound anything like what I thought he&apos;d sound like. Kind of mincy, actually.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:43:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RolandOfEld</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687082</link>	
		<description>Please post neat discoveries/recommendations here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:48:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tittergrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687089</link>	
		<description>I eagerly await the trip-hop club remix of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/2858&quot;&gt;The &apos;Abyssinian treatment&apos; administered to Standard Oil&lt;/a&gt;.

That shit&apos;s gonna be TIIIIIGHT</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:51:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JanetLand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687093</link>	
		<description>The wealth of entertainment options available to me in this world never ceases to astound.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:52:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ranindaripley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687175</link>	
		<description>Thank you  librarians of congress for creating this, but you may owe my employer a few bucks for the time I will waste today browsing and listening and sharing with my staff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 13:11:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monospace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687185</link>	
		<description>Your tax dollars at work!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 13:13:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yeti</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687241</link>	
		<description>Fascinating. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/578&quot;&gt;Haydn Quartet - Massa&apos;s in the cold, cold ground&lt;/a&gt;

And always a favorite, used in Toy Soldiers (XBLA):  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/418&quot;&gt;Goodbye Dolly Gray&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 13:29:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fings</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687280</link>	
		<description>I think the reason there is nothing past 1929 is that was when the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Talking_Machine_Company&quot;&gt;Victor Talking Machine Company&lt;/a&gt; was sold off to RCA.  Right now, the only recordings up there are from Victor, for which they have a free streaming license from Sony. The site says they plan on adding more acoustic recordings from other Sony-USA owned labels, including Columbia and OKeh.

Personally, I agree that that state of copyright laws is absurd, but I&apos;d like to avoid turning this post into a post about that.

As far as discoveries, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/artists/detail/id/384&quot;&gt;Billy Murray&lt;/a&gt; has some interesting songs, including &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/948&quot;&gt;The Grand Old Rag&lt;/a&gt; (before the lyric was changed to &quot;Grand Old Flag&quot;), and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/2719&quot;&gt;I&apos;m the guy&lt;/a&gt; a song with lyrics by Rube Goldberg!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 13:38:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Think_Long</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687346</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Your tax dollars at work!&lt;/em&gt;

and I couldn&apos;t be happier!  Good work tax dollars, you deserve a raise!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 14:04:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Devonian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687428</link>	
		<description>Bit miz that it doesn&apos;t seem to think my Chrome/Ubuntu/Flash combo counts as something that can haz flash and Javascript, and refuses to play. Anyone else in this silent boat?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 14:48:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: angrycat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687490</link>	
		<description>cool, thanks for posting</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 15:28:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687622</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t understand why we can&apos;t download.  For example, if you go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/100&quot;&gt;this song&lt;/a&gt;, and select the &quot;Rights &amp;amp; Access&quot; tab, it says:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rights &amp;amp; Access&lt;/b&gt;

      This recording is protected by state copyright laws in the United States. The Library of Congress has obtained a license from rights holders to offer it as streamed audio only. Downloading is not permitted. The authorization of rights holders of the recording is required in order to obtain a copy of the recording. Contact jukebox@loc.gov for more information.

&lt;b&gt;Credits&lt;/b&gt;

      Source of original recording: Department of Special Collections, Davidson Library, University of California, Santa Barbara. Inclusion of the recording in the National Jukebox, courtesy of Sony Music Entertainment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;But the song was recorded in 1914! It can&apos;t be under copyright, can it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 16:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kenko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687633</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/9671&quot;&gt;The Hurdy Gurdy Blues&lt;/a&gt; is great for the title alone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 17:01:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fings</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687732</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;But the song was recorded in 1914! It can&apos;t be under copyright, can it?&lt;/i&gt;

According to wikipedia, it can.  

&lt;quote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_copyright_law#Duration_of_copyright&quot;&gt;Before 1972, sound recordings were not subject to federal copyright, but copying was nonetheless regulated under various state torts and statutes, some of which had no duration limit. The Sound Recording Amendment of 1971 extended federal copyright to recordings fixed on or after February 15, 1972 (the effective date of the act), and declared that recordings fixed before that date would remain subject to state or common law copyright. The Copyright Act of 1976 maintained this until February 15, 2047, which was subsequently extended by the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act to the same date in 2067.[30] As a result, no sound recording can reliably be considered in the public domain in the United States before that date, even if the recording was in existence before 1923 and even if it originated in another country where it has entered the public domain.[31]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/quote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 17:46:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687762</link>	
		<description>When I woke up this morning, I was definitely not expecting to learn that copyright law is even crazier than I had thought.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 18:03:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Locobot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687909</link>	
		<description>Well the copyright on these is murky at best. They&apos;re being presented free of charge on a government website of which I&apos;m a part owner. 

Recorded easily enough using &lt;a href=&quot;http://audacity.sourceforge.net/&quot;&gt;Audacity&lt;/a&gt;. What gems are people finding?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 19:14:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Flunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3687972</link>	
		<description>Locobot, what do you mean that the copyright on these is murky at best? The LOC is directly stating that they&apos;re protected by copyright.  What is murky about it?

Do you mean &quot;They&apos;re being given to me for free, and I am capable of copying them&quot;? If so, neither of those things have anything to do with copyright.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 19:53:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fings</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3688035</link>	
		<description>Just noticed the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2011/05/all-that-jazz-%E2%80%A6-and-humor-opera-dance-music-%E2%80%A6/&quot;&gt;LoC blog entry&lt;/a&gt; about the project, with a little more info.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 20:31:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mreleganza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3688298</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Teddy Roosevelt didn&apos;t sound anything like what I thought he&apos;d sound like. Kind of mincy, actually.&lt;/em&gt;

I guess he meant that whole, &quot;Speak softly and carry a big stick&quot; thing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 02:18:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Locobot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3690099</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Locobot, what do you mean that the copyright on these is murky at best?&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;no sound recording can reliably be considered in the public domain in the United States&quot; Also means that songs which should normally be considered public domain can reliably be considered copyrighted. Sony may own these records, but do they have clear ownership rights to the compositions and performances? Do they own the rights to distribute these recordings for free? Did they get permission from each performer&apos;s estate?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 17:47:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/103344/Music-to-my-ears#3690506</link>	
		<description>On a side note, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ucblibraries.colorado.edu/cgi-bin/sheetmusic.pl?RagCreole&amp;Rag&amp;1&quot;&gt;chorus&lt;/a&gt; of J. Bodewalt Lampe&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/649&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Creole Belles&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, here performed by the Sousa Band, is the source of Mississippi John Hurt&apos;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOd1VfagW3s&quot;&gt;My Creole Belle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 22:46:07 -0800</pubDate>
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