It once was that all mods' usernames started with the cvccvc pattern:
mathow(ie)
jessam(yn)
cortex
vacapinta and restless nomad muck that conspiracy right up though. =D posted by carsonb at 1:32 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I see that you mean orthographic vowels and consonants. Or we could convince Wordnik to adopt some particular phoneme classification system.
There's actually some interesting research to do the phonological kind, especially with dictionary look-up on heard words in languages with non-alphabetic orthographies. posted by stroke_count at 1:44 PM on May 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Oh yeah, and it lets you dig into the definitions too. So this is the one thing it finds that matches the pattern of exactly 5 consonants related to music. posted by Hubajube at 2:05 PM on May 26, 2011
where is cvvcc (eg 'laugh', 'point', 'south')? posted by unSane at 2:08 PM on May 26, 2011
Also useful for cheating at Crickler. posted by smackfu at 2:13 PM on May 26, 2011
Hubajube: interesting, though I was looking specifically for aconsonantal or avowellic words. posted by idiopath at 2:13 PM on May 26, 2011
You must be new to the Internet.
Even for the internet, it's pretty pointless. (unless I'm missing something, which is why I asked why) posted by John Cohen at 2:14 PM on May 26, 2011
I did this type of "analysis" years ago in order to build a program that generated "words" based on English phoneme patterns as c-v-c-v etc. It would create variable length pronounceable gibberish. I made a few strings of these words and read them with great drama at an open mic poetry reading in San Francisco. People loved it. I was shocked. posted by njohnson23 at 2:15 PM on May 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
My daughter just had this stuff as part of her (4th grade) homework a couple of weeks ago. Seemed pretty useless then, too. posted by briank at 2:22 PM on May 26, 2011
No point other than when I saw it a part of my kid-brain was like soooooo coooooool
I have no idea what I'll ever use this for. I couldn't even fit this into a concept poem because this would be the most boring concept poem ever. But I still think it's super cool that it exists. posted by Rory Marinich at 2:29 PM on May 26, 2011
This would be cool if it actually mapped consonant and vowel sounds and not just letters. I can easily tell a spreadsheet if b,c,d,f,g,h,j,k,l,m,n,p,q,r,s,t,v,w,y,z then 'c'; if a,e,i,o,u then 'v'. I'm actually surprised that they haven't parsed and tagged the whole database already using a script that does just that.
It is cool for being what it is, but misleading to represent orthography as 'consonants' and 'vowels' in syllable structure notation when we're actually talking about letters. And this somewhat arbitrary rule of 'these 21 will be considered consonants and these 5 will be considered vowels' is a bit silly anyway. For example, the sh's, th's, ng's are problematic, as are diphthongs and other fun sound bits. The word 'shoeless' is actually cv.cvc, not ccvvcvcc...there are no diphthongs or consonant clusters and the only two letters that actually map onto their sound counterparts true to consonant/vowel definition and International Phonetic Alphabet notation are the 'l' and the second 's'. In other words, English spelling is weird and not a reliable indicator of actual consonant/vowel and syllabic structure.
I guess this bugs me because it creates confusion and spreads misinformation when you represent a word like 'bleeding' as ccvvcvcc (spelling) AND ccvcvc (pronunciation) and the notation was actually designed to describe the latter, but is being promoted and propagated as the former.
But I do recognise how pedantic I am being about this. posted by iamkimiam at 3:01 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Either my brain is shut off or I'm especially thickheaded today but I don't get this at all. Will someone please explain what is going on here?
Please and thank you. posted by etaoin at 3:24 PM on May 26, 2011
Why?
There is some evidence that people with print impairments (e.g. dyslexia) have particular problems with words with consonant groups (cc). So this is useful for me, for example, for thinking about how I might build a spellchecker with the ability to identify these words and process them differently. posted by alasdair at 3:24 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
In Catholic school, we were drilled in the vowels: "A, E, I, O, U, and some times Y and W." But never once could a teacher come up with an example of W used as a vowel, which was very consistent with the culture of blind faith. posted by StickyCarpet at 3:30 PM on May 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
*wonders how to match against Ebn Ozn* posted by adipocere at 3:34 PM on May 26, 2011
But never once could a teacher come up with an example of W used as a vowel
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"W" becomes a semi-vowel when it becomes part of a diphthong. You hear it most commonly in combination with "a," "e," and "o." For example, we have the "aw" in "claw," the "ew" in "few," and the "ow" in "show." Sound out the word where it's used to make the final determination for "w." If it glides, it’s a vowel. If not, it’s a consonant.
Arabinosyladenine and patikulamanasikara are the longest alternating sequences. Patikulamanasikara is a Buddhist term describing the contemplation of disgusting things to combat lust. posted by StickyCarpet at 4:07 PM on May 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Ironically, the contemplation of patikulamanasikara will also combat lust. posted by five fresh fish at 5:12 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
"It also finds 2 common entries with 7 consonants in a row."
posted by Hubajube at 10:02 PM on May 26
Except that AWGTHTGTTA isn't a word, it is an initialisation from computing (apparently - are we going to have to go throught this again)
Which is a Turkish word meaning "Like you would be from those we can not easily/quickly make a maker of unsuccessful ones" posted by idiopath at 8:25 PM on May 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Arabinosyladenine and patikulamanasikara are the longest alternating sequences.
There are a number of scientific words that have two separate runs of 3 vowels each, many of which seem to refer to different types of hermaphoditism: dioecious, androdioecious, trioecious. I only see one common root word that isn't scientific though. posted by Hubajube at 8:39 PM on May 26, 2011
'cwm' is Welsh, which opens it up to words such as 'nhw' and 'bwrdd'
Common words that contain a run of 3 consonants, then later 4 consonants, then later 3 consonants again are limited to one major city and two very common words that share the same root. posted by Hubajube at 8:44 PM on May 26, 2011
One last one. There's only one common word that contains a run of CCCCVVV (if you don't consider Ys). posted by Hubajube at 8:49 PM on May 26, 2011
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Makes it easy to find special words like this one.
posted by idiopath at 1:25 PM on May 26, 2011