Jazz funk, soul, disco, bollocks.
May 28, 2011 12:12 PM   Subscribe

SLEBP: My ex Brother-in-Law's shit record collection. "You are bidding on a collection of 50 (approx) 12" singles and LPs of crap music. My sister found these in her attic last weekend, where they has been sat gathering dust for the last couple of decades. They used to belong to her ex-husband, who is one of the biggest arseholes ever to draw breath." A Saturday afternoon amusement.
posted by jokeefe (82 comments total) 7 users marked this as a favorite
 
Wow. And original Sugarhill Gang "Rapper's Delight" single? That's pretty cool.
posted by hippybear at 12:21 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Grrr. "An original..." Grrrrr.
posted by hippybear at 12:21 PM on May 28, 2011


I take it this guy represents a well-known style of douche somewhere? Anyone got photos? I have no visual concepts for "Pringle jumpers, pleated Farrahs, shoes that looked like pasties".
posted by chaff at 12:26 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


I'm thinking the guy that sold his ex-wife's wedding dress on eBay a few (many?) years ago should buy this collection. There should be a law saying that funds obtained from vengeful eBay listings should flow from one attention whore to another!
posted by tomswift at 12:30 PM on May 28, 2011




Let's make a playlist!

Shakatak - Dark is the Night
posted by dobbs at 12:33 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Yeah, hippybear, that caught my eye too. Say what you want about the rest of that collection, that single arouses vinyllust in my soul.

Jokeefe, this is hillarious, how did you find it?
posted by [expletive deleted] at 12:34 PM on May 28, 2011


So the person who hosts a rockabilly show thinks the guy with a soul collection is a douchebag? Well, that's a shocker, all right. Ugh.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 12:35 PM on May 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


YOUR LEAST FAVORITE FORMER IN-LAW'S TASTE IN MUSIC SUCKS

and apparently mine sucks too, at least partially, because there are some decent records in there -- like the aforementioned Sugarhill Gang, Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway, Donald Byrd, etc. Though I guess since the seller apparently is a rockabilly DJ, it makes sense why he hates this sort of thing. It's like a latter-day mods vs. rockers rumble, ebay style!
posted by scody at 12:37 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


"Pringle jumpers, pleated Farrahs, shoes that looked like pasties".

'I know those words, but that sign doesn't make any sense.'
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 12:39 PM on May 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


It's like a latter-day mods vs. rockers rumble, ebay style!

It's kinda more like country fans talking smack about rap fans with all that that implies, but...
posted by kittens for breakfast at 12:40 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


I had this awesome idea of what Pringle jumpers might look like.
posted by circular at 12:43 PM on May 28, 2011 [9 favorites]


Jokeefe, this is hillarious, how did you find it?

I would like to say that I just stumbled on it during my searches for obscure funk records, but it actually just showed up in my Facebook feed (it's apparently been making the rounds in England). And kittens for breakfast, I don't think so-- he slags his own taste in music as well. It's all very tongue in cheek, I believe.
posted by jokeefe at 12:45 PM on May 28, 2011


"Pringle jumpers, pleated Farrahs, shoes that looked like pasties".

Alan Patridge?
posted by humph at 12:48 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Partridge, dammit.
posted by humph at 12:48 PM on May 28, 2011


50 Jazz Funk Greats.
posted by General Zubon at 12:51 PM on May 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


How the fuck do you have one single by The Whispers and it's not 'Rock Steady'?
posted by box at 12:53 PM on May 28, 2011


That Kid Creole song is awesome.

Also: the Level 42 thing (two copies!) reminded me how much I like "Something About You," but when I went to listen to it just now I was shocked at how slow it seemed. Maybe I only hear it when I'm out and DJs speed it up to match the rest of the stuff they're playing. Or maybe I need to cut back on the Sudafed.
posted by mintcake! at 12:53 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


And kittens for breakfast, I don't think so-- he slags his own taste in music as well. It's all very tongue in cheek, I believe.

Yeah, it might be meant a little more jokingly than I'm giving it credit for. It's just that it...could be more uncommon to see this same kind of rant, minus the jokes, and the subtext is not always that subtextual, so it kinda skeeves me out more than anything. The sociopolitical dimensions of a dude into stereotypically white southern US music talking down on a dude into stereotypically black urban US music may not be such a thing in the UK, of course.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 12:55 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


OMFG so want. Sugarhill Gang "Rappers Delight" is in VG+ condition too! Fuck.
posted by marienbad at 1:01 PM on May 28, 2011


An original Sugarhill Gang "Rapper's Delight" single? That's pretty cool.

That I want. The rest, not as much.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 1:02 PM on May 28, 2011


That I want. The rest, not as much.

I could sell you mine, for the right price...
posted by sunshinesky at 1:04 PM on May 28, 2011


"Yeah, it might be meant a little more jokingly than I'm giving it credit for... The sociopolitical dimensions of a dude into stereotypically white southern US music talking down on a dude into stereotypically black urban US music may not be such a thing in the UK, of course."
posted by kittens for breakfast at 8:55 PM

I don't know, he says: "It's now nearly 20 years later and I would still like to take a meat tenderizer to his face."

But yes, it could be one of those British-humour-gone-awry things.

As to the idea of a guy into white music dissing a guy into black music and how this would go down in the UK, well, most people with any intelligence can see it for what it is and the sheer fucking hypocrisy of it.
posted by marienbad at 1:07 PM on May 28, 2011


This is like a decent entry-level lite-funk collection, nothing particularly embarrassing.

"Rapper's Delight" is not out of print.
posted by rhizome at 1:12 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


The sociopolitical dimensions of a dude into stereotypically white southern US music talking down on a dude into stereotypically black urban US music may not be such a thing in the UK, of course.

Well, I think it's just got a lot of different dimensions to it. The dynamics are maybe better understood through the filter of decades of UK "appropriation" (for lack of a better term) of these tropes of American popular music. I knew several rockabilly types when I lived in England (though I hung out more with mods/Northern soul folks) and they actually liked plenty of American black music, too -- they just liked the stuff from the '50s (think Fats Domino) rather than the '60s and '70s.

This is why I wasn't entirely kidding when I said this was like a latter-day mods and rockers rumble... the soul boy/jazz-funk scene (which this guy's former brother-in-law was a part of, evidently) grew out of the Northern soul movement, which grew out of the mod movement, while the rockabilly scene traces its roots back to the rockers. So they've both been, in one way or another, pretty persistent subcultures in the UK for going on 50 years.

This is not to say there aren't issues of race and class at play in these (and other) subcultures in Britain -- e.g., the original skinhead movement actually being rooted in a love for Jamaican music -- but that it can't quite be parsed through a wholly American interpretation of those issues.

posted by scody at 1:12 PM on May 28, 2011 [11 favorites]


Not to moderate my own thread, but I took the dissing to be directed at a particular genre of music rather than black music in general: "Northern Soul fans (and everyone else) treated the Jazz Funk fans with sneering contempt". Wouldn't Northern Soul fans be into black American music, too? Or am I reading this incorrectly?
posted by jokeefe at 1:15 PM on May 28, 2011


Erm, or what scody said, and more eloquently and better informed to boot (though no surprises there, heh).
posted by jokeefe at 1:16 PM on May 28, 2011


Northern Soul: This is England documentary about the Wigan Casino. "Oh, they don't serve beer." - "They don't serve beer!?"
posted by dabitch at 1:26 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Because eBay isn't forever, the text of the listing:

You are bidding on a collection of 50 (approx) 12" singles and LPs of crap music.


My sister found these in her attic last weekend, where they has been sat gathering dust for the last couple of decades. They used to belong to her ex-husband, who is one of the biggest arseholes ever to draw breath. I never liked the wanker, and based my initial antipathy towards him on his taste in music. Not to put too fine a point on it, he was that most contemptible form of pond life, a Jazz Funker. This meant that as well as shit taste in music, he had appalling taste in clothes too. Pringle jumpers, pleated Farrahs, shoes that looked like pasties, white socks, revolting shirts and a comical wedge-cut hairdon't. Add to this 80s fashion horrorshow a Ford Capri and Super Mario-style moustache underlining his bulbous nose, and you get an object lesson in twatdom. No wonder Northern Soul fans (and everyone else) treated the Jazz Funk fans with sneering comntempt.

I couldn't comprehend what on earth my usually sensible sister could possibly see in the pillock. In vain I pleaded with her to send him packing. My argument that his hankering for Earth Wind & Fire records and attendance at soul weekenders made him a poor choice of mate was waved away as the rantings of a callow youth. She felt my reasoning was unsound.

Reader, she married him.

He made her life miserable for a few years with his moping, moody belligerence (and playing horrendous records like these). He told her lies and generally behaved like a platinum c*nt. Then he dumped her for his mistress when my sister was four months pregnant.

It's now nearly 20 years later and I would still like to take a meat tenderizer to his face. But his most horrendous crime, worse than wiring up my granny's shower so it was electrically live, worse even than his infidelity or the awful way he treated my sister, was the fact that he actually liked the abomination known as Jazz Funk. Here is the evidence. What a bastard.

Well, I suppose I'd better tell you what's for sale, though why you would actually want to own this dreck is beyond me. It's basically music for people who have a deep-seated hatred of music and want to inflict their pain on the world. But here goes nothing.

First the 12" singles.

ARTIST A B Label No Comment Year Condition (visual)
Beggar & Co (Somebody) Help me out b/w Rising Sun Ensign ENYT201 1981 VG++
Bob James Sign of the times b/w Westchester Lady ; Tappan Zee CBS 1608 1981 VG
Central Line Nature Boy (full version) b/w Nature Boy (83 mix) ; You've said enough Mercury MERX131 PS 1983 VG++
Change Searching b/w Angel in my pocket WEA K79156 Company bag 1980 VG+, small WOL
Chi Lites feat Gene Record Have you seen her b/w Super mad (about you baby) 20th Centry Fox 2481 1980 NM
David Joseph You can't hide (your love from me) b/w You can't hide (acapella/Instr) Island 121S101 PS 1983 NM
Debra Laws On my own b/w Long as we're together Elektra 12529 1981 VG++
Eddy Grant Do you feel my love b/w Symphony for Michael, opus 2 Ensign 4512 Company Bag 1980 VG++
Eddy Grant Can't get enough of you b/w Neighbour Neighbour ; Time Warp Ensign ENYT207 Company bag 1981 Ex
Fantastic Four Bring Your own Funk (BYOF) b/w Sexy lady (remix) Atlantic LV14 1978 NM
Galaxy feat Phil Fearon Dancing Tight (dancemix) b/w Dancing Tight (instr) Ensign 12ENY501 Co bag 1983 Ex
Gap Band Burn Rubber on Me (Why you wanna hurt me) b/w Nothin' Comes to Sleepers Mercury MERX52 PS 1980 VG+
Heatwave Gangsters of the groove b/w Someone Like you GTO GT13 285 1980 Ex
Johnny Bristol Love no longer has a hold on me b/w Til I See you again Ariola Hansa AHAD567 1980 VG++
Kid Creole & Coconuts I'm a wonderful thing (baby) b/w Table manners (remix) ZE 12WIP 6756 PS 1982 VG++
Level 42 Love Games (full length ver) b/w Forty two Polydor POSPX234 1981 VG+
Light of the World Time (remix) b/w I'm So happy Mercury MERX64 PS 1980 VG++
Light of the World I shot the sheriff (ext mix) b/w Painted Lady; A new soft song Ensign 4612 Co Bag 1980 VG+ small WOL
Love Unlimited Orchestra Lift your voice and say (united we can in peace live today) b/w My Fantasies Unlimited Gold ULGA 13 1496 1981 VG++
Lynx So This is Romance b/w So This is Romance (Rio mix) Chrysalis 2546 PS 1981 VG-
Machine There but for the grace of God go I b/w Get your body ready RCA PC1456

Co bag
1979 VG++
Melba Moore Love's comin' at ya b/w Let's go back to lovin' ; Love's comin' at ya (instr) EMI America 146 1982 NM
Odessey Inside Out b/w love's Alright RCA 266 1982 Ex
Patrice Rushen Never gonna give you up (won't let you be) b/w Don't blame me Elektra 12494 1980 VG+
Players Association Turn the music up (remixed disco ver) b/w Goin to the disco (remixed disco v Vanguard VSL5011 PS 1979 VG+
Roberta Flack Don't make me wait too long b/w God Don't like ugly Atlantic K11555 1979 NM
Seawind What cha doin' b/w I need your love A&M 7575 1980 Ex
Shakatak Brazilian Dawn b/w You Never Know Polydor POSPX282 1981 VG
Shalamar Dead Giveaway (ext ver) b/w I don't wanna be the last to know Solar E9189T PS 1983 Ex
Sharon Redd Never Give you up b/w Beat the Street (instr & vocal) Prelude 13 2755 1982 Ex
Sugarhill Gang Rappers Delight (long version) b/w Rappers Delight (short version) Sugarhill SHL101 1979 VG+
Yarborough & Peoples Don't stop the music b/w You're My song Mercury MERX53 1980 VG+
Unlimited Touch I hear music in the streets b/w In the middle Prelude PRL D 605 1980 VG+
Fantasy You're too late b/w You're too late (instr) Pavillion 4z8 6408 1980 VG+
Kid Creole & Coconuts Annie I'm not your daddy b/w You had no intention Island 6801 PS 1982 VG+
MFSB Mysteries of the world b/w Manhattan Skyline CBS TSOP 9501 1980 VG++
Kool & the Gang Let's go dancin' b/w Stand up and sing De Lite DEX9 PS 1981 Ex
Third World Dancing on the floor (hooked on love) b/w Who gave you (Jah Rastafari) CBS 1214 1981 VG+
Sharon Redd Can you handle it b/w Leaving you is easier said than done Epic 9572 Cobag 1980 VG++
Shakatak Dark is the night b/w I lose myself Polydor POPSX 595 PS 1983 VG+
The Whispers It's a love thing b/w Girl I need you Solar SOT 16 WOL 1980 VG++
Donald Byrd Love has come around b/w loving you Elektra 12559 1978 VG+
Roberta Flack feat Donny Hathaway Back together again b/w Only heaven can wait Atlantic 11481 1979 VG++

Now the LPs

ARTIST TITLE Label No Year Sleeve Disc Comment
Linx Intuition Chrysalis 1332 1981 No sleev VG
Level 42 World Machine Polydor POLH 25 1985 VG++ Ex two copies!
Earth Wind & Fire Raise CBS 85272 1981 Ex VG
Odyssey hang together RCA 13526 1980 VG++ VG+
Summer Flying Home Touchstone BBT 113 1979 VG++ Ex
Earth Wind & Fire I Am CBS 86084 1979 VG++ VG+
Earth Wind & Fire Best of vol 1 CBS 83284 1978 VG++



VG++




I mean, Shakatak for fucks sake. What a prick. And surely he must have realised that buying anything by Shalimar would open him up to ridicule. Even those bands' mothers couldn't bear to listen to that stuff. I know I couldn't. None of this is play graded, only visually. I just could not bring myself to dirty my stylus with this bollocks.

Boring stuff: - I grade conservatively, particularly when I don't like the records. Don't ask me to split this lot. You buy it, you buy all of it and pay the shipping. I'm not keeping it in my house any longer than strictly neccessary. For the same reason, no returns. I don't want it back. Shipping in UK is £15 because the weight is approx 10kg . I'm willing to ship overseas at cost, but it's likely to be expensive (maybe £45 in europe) and frankly this crap isn't worth the stamps. If you want to collect from Croydon, that's OK but I will look at you with a contemptuous sneer as you stand in my doorway, proving by your purchase that you are tone deaf and tasteless.

Good luck, and God help you for liking this drivel.

On 28-May-11 at 08:25:42 BST, seller added the following information:

Well this has all gone a bit crazy. In a very nice way - I haven't stopped laughing yet! In less than 24 hours over 11,000 have viewed this auction. I'm amazed.

If you are wondering what my own taste in music is like, check out The Rockabilly DJ Show at www.rockabillyDJ.com where there are over 150 hours of my radio show in the archive. You will probably decide that the old proverb about stones and glass houses is strangely relevant.

Thanks for joining in the fun and helping this silly little bit of revenge go viral. Keep smiling...and bidding!

Sorry for wall-of-text, mods delete if you see fit, but like I said ... eBay listings go away, whereas MetaFilter posts do not.
posted by owtytrof at 1:36 PM on May 28, 2011 [9 favorites]


Pringle Jumpers
Farrahs (pleats to be imagined)
Shoes that look like pasties?

A yuppie, I assume.
posted by codacorolla at 12:33 PM on May 28 [+] [!]


He's not a Yuppie; Pringle jumpers, Farrah trousers & white socks would make him a Casual. No Yuppie would be caught dead driving a Ford Capri, for a start.

But those are definitely pasty/pastie-looking shoes - the sewing on them looks like the seam on a Cornish pasty.
posted by kcds at 1:36 PM on May 28, 2011


Kingdoms rise and fall but Metafilter abides forever.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 1:43 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Northern Soul: This is England documentary about the Wigan Casino.

Heh... "This is England," as I understand it, is seen within the Northern soul scene as the beginning of the end of the golden years, because -- as with the mods in the '60s -- once there was mass awareness, it got "invaded" by all the uninitiated new kids who didn't know the dances, the fashions, etc. If memory serves, there had been attempts to make a documentary about Northern soul for a couple of years at that point, and the dancers/DJs really resisted precisely because they didn't want word to get too widespread.
posted by scody at 2:05 PM on May 28, 2011


Nothing really bad there.
posted by haroon at 2:09 PM on May 28, 2011



Sugarhill Gang "Rappers Delight" is in VG+ condition too!

Man, I had two copies of this twelve-inch single in 1979! (My girlfriend dumped hers on me.) I remember thinking, "Hey, this so-called 'rap' music is just like 'They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Ha' only more annoying. I know it'll blow over pretty soon, because R&B fans burn through even good musical trends in about six months. This 'rapping' business shouldn't last out the summer. And good thing, too. This crap is unbearable."
posted by Faze at 2:14 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


See, and I would've guessed you had two copies so you could beat-juggle.
posted by box at 2:18 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Okay, all this talk of Northern soul has made me revisit my possibly all-time fave Northern track: Moses Smith, The Girl Across the Street, which is such a stomping great little tune that I can't resist sharing it. In fact, I'm going to go dance across the kitchen right now.
posted by scody at 2:20 PM on May 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


If memory serves, it was DJ Steve Def who discovered that, with two copies of 'Rappers Delight,' you can make that story about fried chicken go on forever.
posted by box at 2:21 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


That is indeed a shit record collection.
posted by Decani at 2:25 PM on May 28, 2011


In terms of the style being referenced here, I think this picture of Level 42 is a good intro.
posted by neroli at 2:32 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]




That is NOT how I remember Level 42 looking, at least in their videos back then.

Oh wait, sorry I was thinking of Go West. Carry on.
posted by ltracey at 3:03 PM on May 28, 2011


Yesterday I happened to stumble across a semi-recent interview with Shriekback, with contained this priceless Q&A:

Back in 1981 when the band first started, if someone had said, 'Better strap in for a long ride. Shriekback will be around for thirty years or more,' what would you have said?

Barry Andrews: 'I can only assume that you, Ghost of Shriekback Future, have got us confused with Shakatak (who, as we know, are impossible to destroy).'



(the rest of the interview is here)

Now I must say, absolutely nothing wrong with some Kid Creole in your collection. And maybe it's because I grew up on the east coast (well....maybe it's more because I still trawl through record bins regularly), but I've got 3 or 4 copies of the Rapper's Delight 12".
posted by the bricabrac man at 3:08 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


"Yeah, well, your sister fucked him, di'nt she. Probably to those same records."
posted by Ardiril at 3:41 PM on May 28, 2011


The sociopolitical dimensions of a dude into stereotypically white southern US music talking down on a dude into stereotypically black urban US music may not be such a thing in the UK, of course.

No, it really isn't. There is no need to bring race into this. It's one person sneering at the style/taste of a very small subculture because he loathes the person who bought into it. It would be like an indie kid sneering at his classmate's Kenny G collection (but with added anger).
posted by Summer at 3:48 PM on May 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


I thought that the description was all a bit harsh, I mean I quite like EW&F, but then I scrolled down and saw Level 42 in his collection. 'nuff said
posted by the noob at 3:49 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Just to clear things up: Dude is NOT being dissed for being white and liking black music, but for liking a particularly crappy subset of it, one made in the 80s with cheesy synths.

I was unaware of this, but apparently "Jazz Funk" != Jazz + Funk. It appears to be one of those hyper-specific labeling things music fans sometimes do.

Compare & contrast:

A) Shakatak, Seawind, Melba Moore

B) Herbie Hancock, Lou Donaldson, Jimmy Smith & Wes Montgomery

I'd say B is much more Jazz + Funk, but goes by the names of Rare Grooves or Northern Soul and is brilliant. A is some offshoot of disco, but confusingly appears to be "Jazz Funk", and is what said dude's into. He deserves no scorn for it though, because liking that is its own punishment.

Thanks for your attention!
posted by Tom-B at 4:10 PM on May 28, 2011 [7 favorites]


The race thing is a complete red herring. The guy's got 100% positive feedback for chrissakes.
posted by tigrefacile at 4:20 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Er, that 1st Herbie Hancock track I posted is more of a fusion thing, this Herbie would fit better into Northern Soul/Rare Groove, listen to this if you used to dance to DEEE-LITE
posted by Tom-B at 4:31 PM on May 28, 2011


Meh. Anybody who buys records, and used records particularly, will have 50 records that they don't particularly care for. A good collector takes chances in places where you might not already know what a record sounds like (F.M. has no business being on a label that released Dwight Twilley), so there's always chaff in the stacks. Heck, if you believe the story, the guy just as likely took his good records with him and left these behind rather than dealing with taking them to Goodwill.
posted by rhizome at 4:36 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Uh, Sugarhill Gang's "Rappers Delight" turns up quite a bit in my thrift store excursions... it's far from rare as I understand it was pretty popular and sold many copies.
posted by Ron Thanagar at 4:49 PM on May 28, 2011


50 Jazz Funk Greats.

We got a new car recently. I'm gonna get a personalised plate: JZZ LVR.

Wait...
posted by tumid dahlia at 4:50 PM on May 28, 2011


Whoop, what item said.
posted by Ron Thanagar at 4:51 PM on May 28, 2011


I remember thinking, "Hey, this so-called 'rap' music is just like 'They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Ha' only more annoying. I know it'll blow over pretty soon, because R&B fans burn through even good musical trends in about six months. This 'rapping' business shouldn't last out the summer. And good thing, too. This crap is unbearable."

i remember thinking it was pretty cool when rapper's delight first came out - it seemed to me that it was a landmark record - something that is going to be remembered as announcing a new kind of music

weeks, maybe a couple of months passed and the buzz had quieted down a bit - i remember visiting a friend's girlfriend's house and her little 7 year old sister had a copy of the 12 inch and wanted to play us the long version while we were waiting for our friend and his girlfriend to come out of the bedroom

she put the needle on the record and proceeded to rap along with it, every word, for all 16 minutes of it - she was very proud of herself and i was impressed

that's when i KNEW rap would be big - maybe a lot of people my age weren't liking it - but the next generation had already been captivated

oh, and i have the 12 inch, too - ha ha!
posted by pyramid termite at 4:53 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I'd love to see the writeup this guy would give my collection. Likely the sheer volume of Level 42 material would kill him outright—I have at least four copies of World Machine, for starters. Suck it, haters!
posted by Lazlo at 5:00 PM on May 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


The Kid Creole single is a good one, but needs appropriate pairing...
posted by markkraft at 5:01 PM on May 28, 2011


It looks Ok to me. This guy's a douche.
posted by jonmc at 5:07 PM on May 28, 2011


I never understood people who dissed their current spouse's former husband or wife -- people always go for the same type...
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 5:22 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


It was his sister's ex, not his spouse's ex.

Those records would be ruined in no time here. My attic is probably 135F. The internet tells me that's 57C.
posted by Daddy-O at 5:37 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


It's kinda more like country fans talking smack about rap fans

No, it's more like "my sister was done wrong so I'll mock her ex- on ebay and maybe make a few bucks off the faux-outrage at the same time."

It's a nice collection. There's half a dozen records in there I want. Not that I'd give that douchebag the satisfaction of bidding on any of it.
posted by octobersurprise at 5:43 PM on May 28, 2011


Shit, imma just leave this here: Betty Davis 73
posted by Tom-B at 5:57 PM on May 28, 2011


I just really liked "hairdon't". I will use that now.
posted by lollusc at 6:51 PM on May 28, 2011


I had this awesome idea of what Pringle jumpers might look like.

Yeah, I did not imagine a lame sweater. I was thinking more like red overalls or something.
posted by krinklyfig at 7:00 PM on May 28, 2011


The look that he is describing is basically late 70s / early 80s soulboy. My brother would be a prime example. The look was smart casual (before casual was Casual). Basically a tight fitting golf-style sweater over an open-neck shirt, with pleated slacks (more or less flared) and dark shoes, maybe penny loafers or similar. This could be stripped off to a singlet once the dancing got going. Also required: a sports bag containing Lucozade to keep you going through an all-nighter.
posted by unSane at 7:33 PM on May 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


(this all to be worn at a soul weekender where you and 1000 identically dressed people danced yourselves into a zombie state to a mix of really excellent and really terrible records)
posted by unSane at 7:34 PM on May 28, 2011


(also this was about as far from Yuppie as could possibly be imagined. It was a brutally working class thing but the dress code was descended from Mod, the idea being that the office boy could dress smarter than the guy who owned the company).
posted by unSane at 7:36 PM on May 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Suedehead -- that's on of my favorite scenes from the book. Thanks so much for linking to the deleted scene; had no idea that they had filmed it.

Neroli & ltracey -- mock all you want, but Mark. King. Is. God. (Proof)
posted by bpm140 at 8:19 PM on May 28, 2011


Unsane has it... This is basically London soul boy stuff from the early 80s, I have quite a few of these records myself - though it has to be said this lot skews towards the more pop end of that scene. The British stuff on that list is what was being called britfunk, back in the day. There are some good records here, but I have to agree with the rockabilly about Shakatak, they were pretty fucking awful. Light Of The World, on the other hand...
posted by pascal at 8:22 PM on May 28, 2011


"I remember thinking, 'Hey, this so-called "rap" music is just like "They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Ha" only more annoying.'"

At the time, Dr. Demento actually played "Rapper's Delight" sometimes. It definitely had a novelty vibe, though in retrospect that seems very strange.
posted by litlnemo at 8:24 PM on May 28, 2011


Rap's that genre based on Subterranean Homesick Blues, right?

I think the guy being described is Howard Moon from The Mighty Boosh.

Same venue hosting a rockabilly night last night is hosting a Northern Soul night next week.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 8:30 PM on May 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


Also, a lot of what used to be called Jazz-funk back then would probably be called "Smooth Jazz" today.
posted by pascal at 8:32 PM on May 28, 2011


I think the guy being described is Howard Moon from The Mighty Boosh.

"This, my friend, is jazz-funk."
posted by scody at 8:38 PM on May 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Yeah, I think I have two or three copies of "Rapper's Delight" around here somewhere. Got one at Half Price Books the other weekend for two bucks. Not really that rare.
posted by koeselitz at 9:43 PM on May 28, 2011


Mark. King. Is. God

Wow, I thought hearing Vettel do the Crazy Frog was the single un-coolest thing I've ever witnessed, but it only lasted a week at the top.
posted by fullerine at 2:13 AM on May 29, 2011


The original cornish pasty shoe of the 70's -- as worn by vicars, probation officers and off-duty headmasters -- was a variant of Clark's Polyveldt shoe that had the seam stitched on one side.

One example -- Clark's Rambler

I'd say B is much more Jazz + Funk, but goes by the names of Rare Grooves or Northern Soul and is brilliant.

Rare Grooves and Northern Soul weren't the same thing at all. Northern Soul was played in clubs of the North and North West, and focused on rare uptempo records of the 60's and early 70's with a four to the floor dance beat. By and large, Northern Soul rejected funk as being outside of the genre, though there was a modernist tendency associated with Ian Levine at the Blackpool Mecca who embraced certain records with a funk tendency, but it was extremely controversial and many people thought that the records he played weren't 'real' Northern.

Rare Groove, in contrast, was a scene associated with London and the Home Counties that started almost 20 years after the Northern Soul scene, and did much the same kind of excavation of old rare funk and Jazz records that the Northern scene did in the late 60's and early 70's with uptempo R&B.

Rare groove
Northern Soul
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:12 AM on May 29, 2011 [6 favorites]


Okay, all this talk of Northern soul has made me revisit my possibly all-time fave Northern track: Moses Smith, The Girl Across the Street.

I've been playing Otis Smith's Let Her Go a lot lately, and Moses Smith always comes up in the recommendations to play next.

My all time fave though, has to be Larry Williams and Johnny 'Guitar' Watson's, Too Late.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:26 AM on May 29, 2011 [1 favorite]


Tony O'Callaghan (the actor who played Sergeant Boyden on The Bill) once told me a story about going to a disco in a pair of huge white flares which at some point in the evening caught fire.
posted by unSane at 5:37 AM on May 29, 2011


PeterMcDermott, you're right, I stand corrected! Here in Brazil the scene is divided differently, things tend to get lumped together.
posted by Tom-B at 9:29 AM on May 29, 2011


Yeah, there was a time when the distinction was important to me so I tend to get all knee-jerky about it. Not sure why.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:37 AM on May 29, 2011


I think I know why, it's pretty obvious but hadn't occurred to me yet: these terms do not describe just styles of music, but actual scenes — a combination of music genres, venues and people that are into it.
posted by Tom-B at 2:25 PM on May 29, 2011


I think you're right, Tom-B. It's a tribal thing. But I'm 56 this year -- you'd think I'd have gotten over that by now.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:55 PM on May 29, 2011


All genres ultimately describe the subcultures from which they emerged.
posted by rhizome at 11:26 PM on May 29, 2011


The questions/answers between the seller and viewers were pretty funny too, but he indicated that he thought eBay was going to pull the auction (for profanity, I guess) or that he might pull it himself because it was causing family stress. And now it's gone.
posted by litlnemo at 4:43 PM on May 30, 2011


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