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Yes ninjas, it's that time of the year again! It's the Insane Clown Posse's 2011 Gathering Of The Juggalos Infomercial! All 27 minutes and 3 seconds of it! Staring Vanilla Ice as Vanilla Zerg! (or something - there's a sci-fi theme) Whoop! Whoop! SLYT NSFW
posted by fearfulsymmetry (108 comments total) 7 users marked this as a favorite

 
In the last 24 hours, we've had foreskins, abortions and now juggalos. The end times are clearly upon us.
posted by tim_in_oz at 3:06 AM on June 6, 2011 [5 favorites]


It's not my cup of tea, but as time goes on it seems like ICP and Juggaloism are a great big joke and the people condemning it just don't get it.

I for one support people having fun, even if it's really really really silly.
posted by dunkadunc at 3:09 AM on June 6, 2011 [8 favorites]


This is worth 3 beads in my beadcatcher.
posted by chavenet at 3:18 AM on June 6, 2011 [11 favorites]


In the last 24 hours, we've had foreskins, abortions and now juggalos.
But we've also had Doctor Who, Mary Sue, Dr. Seuss and Walt 'MultiPlane' Disney. You take the good with the bad.
posted by oneswellfoop at 3:21 AM on June 6, 2011


Insane Clown Posse are beyond your puny concepts of good and bad
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:22 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


You know what? Next year I'm going to produce a video promoting Metafilter's annual "Gathering of the Juggalos" thread.
posted by dortmunder at 3:24 AM on June 6, 2011 [30 favorites]


One word: Meetup.
posted by dunkadunc at 3:26 AM on June 6, 2011 [7 favorites]


the hell happened to that smurf
posted by louche mustachio at 3:29 AM on June 6, 2011


I am so, so, so tempted. Let's rent space suits (or biohazard / fire suits) and go explore.

Picture this: Juggalos and 'lettes frolicking in their natural habitat. Then, over the ridge, some strangers appear. Silver-mirror helmets hiding their faces, mumbles the only sounds audible as they clearly communicate through the aerials on their backpacks.

They stand, taking no notes, just watching. Just watching. Are they DEA? Parents? Aliens? Is there a difference?

Picture the Juggalo, attempting seduction with his chosen Juggalette. Surrounded by Faygo-soaked visitors (to hide their scent), their mirrored visors reflecting everything. Do they approve of his drunken fumbling? Do they like his slurred chat-up line? Do they like her willing response? Do they approve?

Picture the concert, ringed with calm, silent observers. Would they ignore the faceless gaze?

Or would we all get shivved before the first hour was out? :-D
posted by Hugh Routley at 3:43 AM on June 6, 2011 [10 favorites]


You know you're getting old when you have to Google key nouns in a post to understand it.
posted by londonmark at 3:48 AM on June 6, 2011 [7 favorites]


It starts out a bit slowly but when it gets going - yeah. Kind of like 2001 only with Miracles instead of Also Sprach Zarathustra.
It features only those willing to stand up against the system... and perform pure, uncut dope for the greatest, most open-minded people on "Earf" - the Juggalos
Wax those chumps like a candle, Vanilla Zerg
posted by A Thousand Baited Hooks at 4:00 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Spawn more Overlords.
posted by Scoo at 4:07 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


Woah, Rowdy Roddy Piper is going to be there!

I'VE COME TO CHEW BUBBLE GUM AND BRING THE NOIZE AND I'M ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 4:18 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


They have added inflatable bouncy houses this year. Can you imagine being inside an inflatable bouncy house with a bunch of juggalos?
posted by jbickers at 4:27 AM on June 6, 2011 [9 favorites]


Please, no. Let's leave this crap to BoingBoing.
posted by Thorzdad at 4:32 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


Clowny daggers, y'all.
posted by Gator at 4:34 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


No wonder Vanilla Ice is staring.
posted by kcds at 4:46 AM on June 6, 2011


Stand up comedy by King Kong Bundy, The Iron Sheik and Roddy Piper? They may win me over this time.
posted by orme at 4:54 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Are they a bit like Shriners?
posted by unSane at 5:00 AM on June 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


Ooooh, so this is what SNL was parodying.
posted by indubitable at 5:03 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


No, they're former pro wrestlers.
posted by box at 5:03 AM on June 6, 2011


I'd go for a day if there was a guarantee that Tila Tequila wasn't going to be there.
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:08 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Missing the "mutherfunkah" tag.
posted by aught at 5:10 AM on June 6, 2011


Is this really 27 minutes? Vanilla Zerg is the best actor in that group... says a lot.
posted by ph00dz at 5:13 AM on June 6, 2011


I think this shit is hilarious.
posted by jquinby at 5:31 AM on June 6, 2011


But wait, there's more!

I'm curious what George Clinton's gonna do. I mean it's outdoors - there's not exactly a roof to tear off the sucker.

And shouldn't he have done the ad from the mothership?
posted by Benny Andajetz at 5:42 AM on June 6, 2011


Wait, this is the big underground non-corporate movement, and tickets are available at select Hot Topic stores?
posted by jquinby at 5:47 AM on June 6, 2011


Recently I was booked to do video for one of the Clowns' pro wrestling shows. There was a match scheduled where they would kill the building's lights and illuminate the action with flashlights passed out to the crowd beforehand.

Needless to say I was disappointed when the booking fell through for me. Regardless of the fun of working for a new client in a new market, that flashlight match sounded like it might have been beautiful, a quality I realize most here would not immediately associate with the Juggaloes, let alone the pro wrestling.
posted by jtron at 5:58 AM on June 6, 2011 [5 favorites]


Lowlife carnies "just out to take my money?" Helicopter rides with "presumably drunk" pilots? How do I resist?

But hey, a serous question. I know who ICP is, of course, not my personal thing, but I know what they do and I've got a sense of how popular they are. But 90% of these other acts I've never even heard of. (Excepting Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, and a couple of others who seem to have been frozen a decade or two ago and now getting thawed out). Are they actually popular and just outside what I'd know? Popular only among Juggalos? Or pure filler that even the true believers have never heard of before?
posted by tyllwin at 6:00 AM on June 6, 2011


Wow, I've never been so bored by a video that I turned the ads back on.
posted by Elmore at 6:04 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


Apropos of nothing, I recently saw some graffiti in Cincinnati that read:

"Colin Powell = Vanilla Ice"

posted by slogger at 6:12 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


Tyllwin,

A lot of the rappers, like xibit, mystikal, E40, Juvinile and DJ Quik were one hit wonders, or had some underground hip hop cache in the 90's.

But you've heard of Ice Cube, Busta Rhymes and George Clinton, right? I'd go see those guys.
posted by to sir with millipedes at 6:13 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


"Please, no. Let's leave this crap to BoingBoing."

No, please, after you!
posted by beschizza at 6:17 AM on June 6, 2011


>>In the last 24 hours, we've had foreskins, abortions and now juggalos.

>But we've also had Doctor Who, Mary Sue, Dr. Seuss and Walt 'MultiPlane' Disney. You take the good with the bad.


I agree, except that I'd put the Drs Who and Seuss, along with Mr Disney, firmly in the "bad" category.

It's not my cup of tea, but as time goes on it seems like ICP and Juggaloism are a great big joke and the people condemning it just don't get it.

That's more and more my feeling about the Juggalos, although I'd add a big dose of "getting fucked up" to it being a fun joke. If I'm ever near one of their events, I'd totally go. It looks fun, with all kinds of levels of irony involved. From looking at pictures and videos, there are people there taking it completely seriously, and others who are in on the joke, and everything in between.
posted by Forktine at 6:19 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Why does the video say the "Psychopathic Rydas" album is "appropriately titled" Eat Shit n Die ?
posted by Dia Nomou Nomo Apethanon at 6:29 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Thank, tswm.

Yeah, I have, and I shouldn't have dismissed them as thawed out. But OK. that sort of level sets me, that most of them are acts that'll have some name recognition to the people that appreciate rap but not much of an independent fanbase.
posted by tyllwin at 6:31 AM on June 6, 2011


Interestingly, if it were not for MeFi, I'm not sure I would have ever noticed ICP before the "fucking magnets" thing.
posted by tommasz at 6:37 AM on June 6, 2011


"Colin Powell = Vanilla Ice"

A lot of people who thought he was cool in the early '90s feel stupid about it now?
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:37 AM on June 6, 2011 [14 favorites]


It's like the anti-MaxFunCon.
posted by inturnaround at 6:43 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Why does the video say the "Psychopathic Rydas" album is "appropriately titled" Eat Shit n Die ?

Let's just say it was their last album. For reasons that are pretty clear in retrospect.
posted by Naberius at 6:59 AM on June 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


It's 250 miles away and I'm way too old for this sort of thing.

I hope they have a good time.
posted by double block and bleed at 7:03 AM on June 6, 2011


A lot of people who thought he was cool in the early '90s feel stupid about it now?

Everything good about his work was stolen from David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, and he basically only appealed to teenaged girls anyway?
posted by Infinite Jest at 7:15 AM on June 6, 2011


So the biggest What The Muthafuckin Fuck moment by far (probably in any of these) was seeing Mystikal in the line-up seeing as I had only heard of him for the first time a couple of days ago when I was reading about the music in Treme (He's what Davis blasts out to annoy his neighbours). So like ICP and The Wire are basically this close. This. Close.

David Simon should totally do a Juggalos drama.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 7:24 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Wait, this is the big underground non-corporate movement, and tickets are available at select Hot Topic stores?

I believe this is called "Over-the-Counter-Culture."
posted by ZenMasterThis at 7:26 AM on June 6, 2011 [12 favorites]


wtf?? I mean there is an official *thing* now where Ex Pr Wrestlers become stand-up comics ?

Really?

I managed to watch half of the trailer before I just couldn't stomach it anymore. It's like the tv show Jackass and the concept of Willfully-Ignorant got together and had a baby, and then asked Vanilla Ice to be the godparent.

Just ... Awful.
posted by Faintdreams at 7:33 AM on June 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


"Colin Powell = Vanilla Ice"

A lot of people who thought he was cool in the early '90s feel stupid about it now?

Everything good about his work was stolen from David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, and he basically only appealed to teenaged girls anyway?


To bring us back on topic, I think the Colin Powelll who was deriviative of Bowie and Mercury might be welcome at the Gathering Of The Juggalos (and I know he'd be awesome. though perhaps unwelcome in the military, at least until after DADT is fully repealed)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 7:43 AM on June 6, 2011


I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
posted by CosmicRayCharles at 7:48 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


LOLCHRISTIANS
posted by BeerFilter at 7:52 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


I'm pretty sure this is all a big joke. I'm also pretty sure the joke is really played out by now.
posted by clvrmnky at 7:53 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


I still can't decide if this is a step up or down for the Ice man from this... or sideways or some other dimensions only the jugallos know.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 7:53 AM on June 6, 2011


One was a white man trying to be black.
The other was a black man trying to be GOP.
posted by Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese at 7:58 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Like I always say, Idiocracy isn't just a movie - it's a prophecy.
posted by photoslob at 8:02 AM on June 6, 2011


Has anybody in this thread ever met a juggalo in real life? I have. Several, actually. I grew up with two guys in my neighborhood (they were brothers) who were way into ICP from the very beginning. They're both on the sex-offenders registry now. Not saying it's related, just that's what happened.

I used to to work in IT at a bank with another guy who was/is a juggalo. Very nice guy, smart, and extremely passionate about ICP. He once tried to explain the "shangri-la" concept to me. It sounded insane to me but it was clear he felt very strongly about it.

I also see a lot of decrepit Hyundai Tiburons cruising around town with that ICP logo (the one tha'ts a silhouette of a guy running around with a meat cleaver...). They're a strange group indeed. but who isn't? In a lot of ways I think, based on my limited experience with them, that they're just kids who really don't want to grow up. There's a reason why pro westling is such an easy fit here. Everybody knows, deep down, that the whole enterprise is deeply silly, but they love for exactly that reason.

Rock on, Juggalos.
posted by jnrussell at 8:05 AM on June 6, 2011 [7 favorites]


The best of the internet, indeed.
posted by TheBones at 8:10 AM on June 6, 2011


David Simon should totally do a Juggalos drama.

Y'know.... I'd actually totally watch that.
posted by tyllwin at 8:10 AM on June 6, 2011


It's easy to make fun of these kids, but they are they ones making your sandwich, washing your car, mixing your paint while you flip through the latest Restoration Hardware catalog, impatiently tapping your foot.

Not everyone went to college, grew up with the Smiths or Pavement, thought about medical school.

Some people grow up in trailers in the middle of nowhere, Ohio. Why it's ok to laugh and hate, I don't know. Maybe it's easier for you that way. It doesn't really make their life any easier.

But, if only for a few days, maybe this thing will.
posted by four panels at 8:11 AM on June 6, 2011 [11 favorites]


I was actually kind of tickled when I read this article where the 2 said that they were evangelical christians and the whole juggalo thing was a plan to convert people to their flavor of crazy.

Since they are continuing on with this ridiculousness, I'm guessing they were trolling the interviewer.
posted by TheBones at 8:16 AM on June 6, 2011


is this something i would have to understand fucking magnets to get?
posted by sexyrobot at 8:22 AM on June 6, 2011 [5 favorites]


It's easy to make fun of these kids, but they are they ones making your sandwich, washing your car, mixing your paint while you flip through the latest Restoration Hardware catalog, impatiently tapping your foot.

Compassion on MetaFilter? WTF???
posted by ZenMasterThis at 8:22 AM on June 6, 2011


Not my thing, by a mile (don't like the music, and social anxiety doesn't do too well with that many people in one place), but after reading about it on Driven by boredom, i've gained a bit of respect for it all, even if it does make me laugh ("Inflatable moon bounce, motherfucker!!").

The after party cruise they held seemed pretty damn nice of them, not something such large bands would do.
posted by usagizero at 8:28 AM on June 6, 2011


Idiocracy is an amusing-but-lowbrow comedy with excellent production values that's used by lowbrow fans who want an easy, cheap feeling of superiority over people they've never met and don't understand.

Insane Clown Posse factors into my theory that it's very difficult to enjoy something sincerely without almost immediately looking very, very, very stupid to outsiders. Their music isn't well-written; this video is not well-produced. Luckily, something doesn't have to be well-made for people to like it, so a lot of people like Insane Clown Posse anyway, despite attempts to prove them "wrong" with science and taste.
posted by Rory Marinich at 8:34 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


But you've heard of Ice Cube, Busta Rhymes and George Clinton, right? I'd go see those guys.

I'll take Xzibit over Ice and Busta.

Why it's ok to laugh and hate, I don't know.

I don't see a lot of hate here. Mostly I see bemused tolerance and/or grudging respect.
posted by mrgrimm at 8:49 AM on June 6, 2011 [2 favorites]


It's not my cup of tea, but as time goes on it seems like ICP and Juggaloism are a great big joke and the people condemning it just don't get it.

yeah, the homophobia they kinda sorta dismiss but kinda sorta perpetuate is just way too nuanced for me to get it. i've always been disheartened that mefites tend to give them a pass on it.
posted by fallacy of the beard at 8:58 AM on June 6, 2011


I like how it cut from "Faygo Wet T-Shirt contest" straight to "Moon bounce". Mom can have peace of mind knowing that her kids are safe while she's dancing have naked in front of a crowd of screaming guys while she's stripping off her shirt and being sprayed with soda.
posted by Pastabagel at 8:59 AM on June 6, 2011


All I know is I have a tshirt that says ICP on the front with a prictue of a camera shutter. The ICP on my shirt stands for International Camera ..err something. People started asking me why I was wearing an Insane Clown Posse shirt. I got so tired of explaining it I had to stop wearing it. Goddamnit it Insane Clown Posse, you made me have to stop wearing my free tshirt, this is a serious grievance. Please change your name.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:04 AM on June 6, 2011


These clowns are in the pocket of Big Faygo.
posted by The White Hat at 9:07 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


Wait, this is the big underground non-corporate movement, and tickets are available at select Hot Topic stores?

Yeah, they're pretty much kings of merchandising, but nobody's really sure how they accomplish it.



In other words...fucking magnates, how do they work?
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 9:11 AM on June 6, 2011 [15 favorites]


Metafilter: A who's who of death match champions.
posted by hot_monster at 9:19 AM on June 6, 2011


Real thought while watching the video : "except for most of the music and the people who will actually be there, this sounds like a lot of fun."
posted by Deathalicious at 9:21 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


They've now got the nerd elite of the internet running a free voluntary promotional campaign for their annual event. Real dumb huh.
posted by nanojath at 9:28 AM on June 6, 2011


I bet Sweet Sugar Slam is still trying to get all that glitter out of her cleavage.
posted by nanojath at 9:35 AM on June 6, 2011 [2 favorites]




Mr. Bad Example: Yeah, they're pretty much kings of merchandising, but nobody's really sure how they accomplish it.

They're brilliant marketers. They zeroed in on demographic that nobody else cared about and gave them a feeling of exclusivity &
inclusion. Think Phish for the lowbrow: below the radar of the mainstream and passed by word-of-mouth as something that's "our thing" amongst a peer group.
posted by dr_dank at 9:46 AM on June 6, 2011 [6 favorites]


Also, they seem to revel in mockery from "haters," as it reinforces their message of being a family that society doesn't understand. Which just makes it even more inclusive feeling.

In short, we are guerrilla marketers for ICP.
posted by mccarty.tim at 9:48 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


Idiocracy is an amusing-but-lowbrow comedy with excellent production values that's used by lowbrow fans who want an easy, cheap feeling of superiority over people they've never met and don't understand.

Good thing you'd never succumb to such a temptation.
posted by paradoxflow at 9:54 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


When they revealed that the were Christians something went 'click' for me. They really emphasize that they are a community, a family, which (I think) Jesus emphasized. There's still some tribal, insider-vs-outsider, ickyness, but it sounds like they're very open to anyone who wants to come share their communal joy.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:02 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


Mystikal, Paris and P-Funk? Sounds like fun. I have somehow fallen into the ICP target audience and this is a bit scary.
posted by shushufindi at 10:18 AM on June 6, 2011


But can you go to the gathering if you understand how fucking magnets work?
posted by Sophie1 at 10:20 AM on June 6, 2011


As opposed to regular magnets?
posted by ZenMasterThis at 10:28 AM on June 6, 2011


Sophie1, even Feynman seems a bit taken off guard by this question, admitting magnets are very weird compared to our perceptions.
posted by mccarty.tim at 10:31 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


Paris

Admittedly, I haven't kept up with his career. But it is a bit of a surprise that the man behind The Devil Made Me Do It is appearing.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:37 AM on June 6, 2011


In fact, ICP named-drops Feynman every time they perform "Miracles."
posted by ZenMasterThis at 10:38 AM on June 6, 2011


Juggalo juggalo Juggalo juggalo juggalo juggalo Juggalo juggalo.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 10:48 AM on June 6, 2011 [5 favorites]


Mushroom mushroom.
posted by staggering termagant at 10:50 AM on June 6, 2011 [3 favorites]


In fact, ICP named-drops Feynman every time they perform "Miracles."

I can't tell if he is saying "You don't have the basic knowlege to allow me to explain magnets in a meaningful way" or "Nobody understands magnets". Either way, I am going to side with Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope on this one and just chalk it up to Fuckin' Magnets.

I also think there is a good chance Feynman would probably enjoy the Gathering of Juggalos.
posted by Ad hominem at 10:53 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


WARNING: This video contains spelling mistakes.
posted by alby at 10:53 AM on June 6, 2011


I also think there is a good chance Feynman would probably enjoy the Gathering of Juggalos.

You know who else would presume to speak for Feynman ... ?
posted by ZenMasterThis at 11:03 AM on June 6, 2011


When you fall out of the bouncy moon house and crack your head open, do you get to go to Shit's Fucked Up Hospital?
posted by bitter-girl.com at 11:08 AM on June 6, 2011


Something I have long been curious about, and probably always will be: the story has it that on one of their latter albums, ICP ended it with a track where they come out as Christians, saying "we're not sorry that we tricked you" and claiming that all of their previous albums had been subtly orchestrated to bring listeners in and get them on the band's side before dropping the big reveal.

Everyone seems to have taken them at their word on this, but I've always wondered. It seems at least as probable that Shaggy and J experienced religious awakenings just before or during the recording of that album, and then retconned all their previous work in order to give the impression that it was all planned, and to protect themselves from the ridicule that would be heaped upon them if it was suspected that they had just up and switched sides, theologically.

Again, I'll never know, but I'll always wonder. Also, to repeat my unanswered question from last year, did anyone ever figure out what the hell a neden is?
posted by chaff at 11:13 AM on June 6, 2011


Any time I hear anything about ICP I think back to one of the first times I had ever heard of the group. In the summer 1998 I worked late at a gas station and "Love Line" with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew was usually on as I was driving home from at night. ICP were the guests on the show one night. They did the usual interview, I had heard some of their music and it really wasn't my thing and but they came off as pretty normal dudes. And then they took a call.

This girl called in because she needed some advice. She was at a party hanging out with some guy. She didn't remember much of what happened but when she woke up it was clear to her that she had had sex. She didn't know if she drank too much and passed out or was drugged but she thought she had been raped.

Dr. Drew advised her to go to the police, it was pretty clear to me and just about anyone else listening that the girl had been raped but ICP didn't see it that way. They, specifically Violent J, kept butting in with the idea that this girl had simply drank too much and had consensual sex with some guy and then forgot about it. They were concerned that she was about ruin this guy's life when she wasn't even certain that she had been raped.

It was about then that I decided I could write off ICP and anyone associated with them.
posted by VTX at 11:16 AM on June 6, 2011


You know who else would presume to speak for Feynman ... ?

Hitler? no wait....

Just seems to me he was kind of a fun loving guy, he played frigideira at Carnaval, spent a fair amount of time chasing women in nightclubs, took drugs.

simply drank too much and had consensual sex with some guy and then forgot about it

This is really not the place but.. I am male. I have had sex with a woman when I was in a blacked out state. Should I go to the police?
posted by Ad hominem at 11:20 AM on June 6, 2011


You know what . I retract that, she knows what she would or wouldn't do. It is insensitive of me to float questions about that. It is a serious issue and of course it is a much different situation.
posted by Ad hominem at 11:27 AM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]


Idiocracy is an amusing-but-lowbrow comedy with excellent production values that's used by lowbrow fans who want an easy, cheap feeling of superiority over people they've never met and don't understand.

Wait, are you pro or con on the whole 'cheap feeling of superiority' thing? It's hard to tell from the presentation.
posted by FatherDagon at 11:57 AM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]


WHAT IS THE NEDEN GAME?
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 12:12 PM on June 6, 2011


I figure that if Urban Dictionary is going to be authoritative on anything, it'd probably be Juggalo terminology: neden
posted by Fezboy! at 1:31 PM on June 6, 2011


Will there be a horn pile to chill out in?

(honk honk honk)
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 2:02 PM on June 6, 2011


"Colin Powell = Vanilla Ice"

That's a couple years old. At one point in time there were 30-40 absurdest bits of graffiti (Pat Barry sat on my head) around town. The city has removed most of them.
posted by Mick at 2:22 PM on June 6, 2011


mccarty.tim: JOHN MADDEN! FOOTBALL! I'M LAUGHING FOR REAL RIGHT NOW! BRBRBRBR. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I haven't felt so much child-like joy since God-knows-when. Just fucking wow. thank you.

file under: at least I can pretend I was simply crying if anyone peeks into my cubicle this time.
posted by herbplarfegan at 2:29 PM on June 6, 2011


"Has anybody in this thread ever met a juggalo in real life? I have. Several, actually. I grew up with two guys in my neighborhood (they were brothers) who were way into ICP from the very beginning. They're both on the sex-offenders registry now. Not saying it's related, just that's what happened."

I used to be one. I'm in the Chicken Huntin' video as part of the front row of the crowd. (I think I've mentioned this before.)

Calling them "Christian" is a pretty big stretch, especially trying to label them as evangelical Christians. I mean, they kind of are, in the way that anyone coming up with a syncretic mystery cult in America is.

If I could find someone to pay my way to see them, I would totally go to the Juggallo Gathering. It looks like an insane amount of fun. Especially since I haven't seen one of their shows in around 15 years.
posted by klangklangston at 2:38 PM on June 6, 2011


So what happened, klangklangston? Was it just a phase that you grew out of? Any reason why?

I'm genuinely curious.
posted by jnrussell at 3:10 PM on June 6, 2011


As much as its fun to laugh at these guys, the only real meaning in my life comes from music and music festivals. Mostly quasi-religious music about how awesome it is to listen to rock and roll and be around other people who listen to rock and roll. So it would be pretty hypocritical of me to criticize.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:13 PM on June 6, 2011


Think Phish for the lowbrow: below the radar of the mainstream and passed by word-of-mouth as something that's "our thing" amongst a peer group.

Phish is highbrow?
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:23 PM on June 6, 2011


I saw a guy decked out in ICP regalia on the train here in Calgary a couple of weeks ago. Which was weird. What was weirder was that I knew who ICP was from mefi.
posted by sneebler at 6:36 PM on June 6, 2011


There are a few Australian Juggalos. I haven't seen them, but they've sent events into my site. I was thinking of going to one, but mocking 15 people at a hip hop show seemed unfun and rather mean.

I'm curious what George Clinton's gonna do. I mean it's outdoors - there's not exactly a roof to tear off the sucker.

He played Australia's outdoor Bluesfest this year (bit classier than GotJ, with Elvis Costello and Dylan and such) but i wasn't there and there's nothing on YouTube.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 6:44 PM on June 6, 2011


Phish is highbrow?

The first syllable, anyway.

WHAT IS THE NEDEN GAME?

Yeah, so in laymen's terms this is "The Pussy Game"? Do I even want to know?

Oh, keep in mind, people who are saying "you just don't understand": this is the event where last year a woman was chased by an angry mob, bloodied, and had stones and "a watermelon allegedly soaked in feces and urine" thrown at her. This is not a crowd you'd want to defend.
posted by naju at 6:47 PM on June 6, 2011


Oh, keep in mind, people who are saying "you just don't understand": this is the event where last year a woman was chased by an angry mob, bloodied, and had stones and "a watermelon allegedly soaked in feces and urine" thrown at her. This is not a crowd you'd want to defend.

They should get Odd Future to perform.
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 7:04 PM on June 6, 2011


"So what happened, klangklangston? Was it just a phase that you grew out of? Any reason why?"

Violent J fell on me.

No, mostly just grew out of it would be my guess. It seemed like they just kept retreading the same territory and weren't really worth the trip to Detroit to see. The couple of friends that I had who were into them either moved away for college or I just kinda fell out of touch with. Their music was always pretty stupid and goofy, and so when they started trying to do the semi-mystical "concept" albums, their lack of depth and pretensions of competency just bored the shit out of me.

I do think that they and Odd Future have some overlap, and that I think part of people being SHOCKED, SHOCKED at the terrible shit they get up to is kind of amusingly predictable and makes me wonder if some of their critics ever rooted for a bad guy in a movie or game or anything. Plus, you know, it's not like they're saying, "These are healthy strategies for living." They're calling themselves psychopathic and evil all the time (in a pretty cartoony way, sure). That they've tried to temper that as they've gotten more mature means that there's more of an apparent contradiction, and because it's kind of the artist's job to resolve that stuff, I don't have any problem saying that a lot of what they make isn't successful aesthetically (in large part because they're just not talented enough to pull it off), but I can also find some of what they do entertaining as hell.
posted by klangklangston at 7:36 PM on June 6, 2011


When I saw The Dayton Family, I was impressed.

Then I saw DJ Quik's name I nearly choked. Whaaaat? Really?

Then I saw Juvinile. I thought, this is this is real.

Then I she said Mystikal and I am seriously taking note.

But when she said GEORGE CLINTON & THE P-FUNK ALL-STARS!!!! I was dumb.

Tech N9ne. Okay that's legendary.

Then E-40????!!!!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!?!!!! WOW

And Paris? Seriously hardcore dope sh-t. Seriously.

And EXZIBIT too??

And Ice Cube?

And Busta Rhymes?

Listen, you may not know these names or you may think these are "one hit wonders" but the fact of the matter is these are all absolute rap legends.

One hit wonder? DJ Quik? He's the official godfather of West Coast (SoCal) rap. His credibility is untouchable. Dre gives him credit for god's sake.

And one hit wonder E-40??? Really? Alone E-40 has sold something over 10 million records. And that's mostly independently. Meaning he kept the money from the music he made. Here's Practice Looking Hard featuring Boots from the Coup and you may recognize that rapper toasting broccoli as Tupac. And the lyric from just that track, "I keep a mirror in my pocket and I practice looking hard", is a rap standard. Since '92. It percolates through rap songs like it's a cracker jack prize. You mighta thought fo shizzle was Snoop Dogg. You thought wrong. E-40, fo sho.

Ice Cube and Busta Rhymes? My head is spinning. For real, next year is Wu-Tang. Or an NWA reunion. With the DOC. Watch.

This roster is a beast. It's the real mccoy. Marketing genius, okay sure whatever, but it ain't as if there a lot of finks or fakers in this crowd in front of the stage or behind it. Maybe a sprinkling here and there (MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice) but they are owned fakers. Whatever about this crowd it took reeeeal early-Bill Graham-type 4080 industry shite to be able to pull it off line-up.

I mean, P-Funk is playin at their house. At their house.

Seriously, whatchoo got?
posted by humannaire at 9:14 PM on June 6, 2011 [9 favorites]


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