Dude, resign. The democratic party doesn't need to lose your seat just because your ego is too enormous to let them replace you with someone who doesn't sent dirty pictures to random 20-somethings.We can't have politicians resigning at the drop of the hat. Clearly sending the pics was moronic, but really, who cares? Resigning would send a message that democrats can't weather any political trouble at all. It would be open season. And this is exactly the kind of bullshit that prevents people from wanting to enter politics in the first place.
He accepts "full responsibility". He just won't accept any adverse consequences.What principle? Also, when he went on MSNBC he didn't say it wasn't him, but rather that he wasn't sure. And honestly is it really that big of a deal if people lie about their sex lives? At least Clinton was under oath when he lied. If some reporter came up to you and started asking about personal details of your life, would bare all right away?
A lying unprincipled scumbag just like all the rest.
But like... I've been using twitter for a couple years, and I've never uploaded a dick pic. As best as I can tell, none of my friends have, either. It's just... like, I don't want to sound condescending here, but... it's REALLY REALLY EASY to not upload dick pics to the internet.Yeah, well anyone who's famous is going to have a lot of women flirting with them a lot
[He said it was all consensual...] So did William Kennedy Smith.WHAT!? Are you saying Weiner raped these girls over twitter!? FFS. Stop blowing this shit out of proportion.
And Representative Weiner has already demonstrated himself a liar.
Voters seem to move past infidelity and Twitter.based stupidity. But lying. Not as much. Makes me sad because he was pretty great on some important issues.Are you kidding me? Voters won't vote for a politician who doesn't lie to them. Name one politician who hasn't blatantly and obviously lied about something.
I've flirted with a lot of women, occassionally on the internet. Some of them have even flirted back. This has never once, however, instilled in me an irresistible urge to tweet any of them pictures of my junk.So what happens when they straight up ask you to see it? Do you people really believe that women never want to see penises? If so I feel kind of bad for you.
This is why the phrase "No comment" was invented.Which he used all the time, but the scandal didn't actually go away. He initially lied and said he was hacked, and for all we know he might have really thought he was.
He deserves a medal for not resigning. Our country is crumbling just a bit more every day, and this ridiculousness is what people get obsessed over.No shit. This whole thing is absurd. What the hell is wrong with you people that you actually give a crap about this?
A medal for repeatedly lying to the American people and not resigning? What would this medal be made out of exactly? Raw sewage? What other glorious American pursuits deserve medals nowadays?Name one politician who hasn't lied to the American people. Oh this was about his personal life instead of actual policies that affect people's lives? Huge difference.
There's 0 chance he's going to resign over this, and he's not going to lose re-election. Nobody in his district is going to care by the time next november rolls around.It might hurt his mayoral plans. Supposedly he was going to run against Bloomberg.
So you're saying that politicians should be rewarded for lying to the people?I'm saying that lying is something that all politicians do, so it makes not sense to criticism them for lying about sex, cyber- or otherwise. Unless the real criticism is about the sex itself (at least with Clinton it was under oath)
The Mag's NFL Player X (whoever he is) estimated that 30 percent of married NFL players cheat on their wives. I was surprised to hear it was that low. In the NBA, I think it's closer to 60 percent. When you get a bunch of young, rich guys together, infidelity can be contagious. It's like high school -- the young guys watch the older players to see how things are done.Athletes, actors, musicians, politicians - the only difference is in the potential consequences, isn't it?
"A medal for repeatedly lying to the American people and not resigning? What would this medal be made out of exactly? Raw sewage? What other glorious American pursuits deserve medals nowadays?"posted by eyeballkid at 2:46 PM on June 6, 2011
...if he were to stay in Congress, Weiner would have to keep quiet and not run for mayor. Which would make him an incredibly bored man, since he's never actually put much effort into his congressional work. This is why so many of his fellow Democrats on Capitol Hill and in New York have long viewed him with disdain: He's an ultra-ambitious showman with a knack for generating publicity but little interest in the nuts-and-bolts work that comes with serving in Congress.posted by dmit at 2:46 PM on June 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
What about Brett Favre and Kanye West?What about 'em? Honestly I didn't really follow those stories, but other then embarrassment, it didn't seem to cause either one any actual problems, did it?
So let's say you have an employee, maybe a housekeeper, and one day when you're not home, he accidentally breaks a lamp. Not a huge deal, mistakes happen, and you wouldn't have cared a whole lot if he came to you, told you what happened, and apologized. Instead of that, however, your employee tosses the broken lamp and insists for days that he had nothing to do with the lamp and it must have been burgled.What if, instead of your lamp, he broke his wife's lamp, at their house, on the weekend. How is it any of your business? And why are you even asking him about it?
When that same public figure repeatedly lies to my face about it and starts concocting BS to cover for his lies, we're well past the questionable judgement stage.You still haven't named a politician who hasn't lied to the American people. Remember when Obama said that deep water drilling was totally safe? Or that nuclear power was totally safe because Japan and France could do it? Or that we've had enough stimulus and need to worry about the debt? I'm sure you could find plenty of other examples
During one flirtatious Facebook chat last month, Broussard said, she issued the man on the other end a challenge.This is one of the reason men do this kind of thing: because women straight up ask them too.
“I asked him to take a picture and write ‘me’ on it so I would know,” Broussard said in an interview.
The calls by Pelosi and Israel for an ethics investigation dramatically raise the political stakes for Weiner. While he stated repeatedly during an emotional press conference on Monday that he had broken no laws nor violated House ethics rules during his interaction with the women, a probe by the House Ethics Committee could find differently.posted by BobbyVan at 3:28 PM on June 6, 2011
And it also could provide Pelosi and other Democratic leaders with political cover to call on Weiner to step down. So far, none of his Democratic colleagues have called on him to give up the seat that he first won in 1998.
What's an "emotional affair"? Is that like Jimmy Carter saying he had committed adultery because he had lusted after other women in his heart?I'm sorry, but this is a pet peeve of mine.
I try not to commit a deliberate sin. I recognize that I'm going to do it anyhow, because I'm human and I'm tempted. And Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. Christ said. "I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery."As I have said before on this site, I've often found it interesting that the right-wingers who hit on him the hardest and the most frequently for this fundamentally decent statement are typically, ostensibly, Christians.
I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times. This is something that God recognizes I will do—and I have done it—and God forgives me for it. But that doesn't mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock.
Christ says, Don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who's loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness.
He's also being sued for sexual harassment. I would venture to guess Favre wishes the whole thing didn't happen.Well, if that's the case and the pics were unsolicited then that's different thing.
I never said that I'm all well and good with lying about policy issues, but I think there's a pretty big difference between the kinds of statements you're discussing here and the kind of lie Weiner told.Yeah, they actually matter.
Obama didn't willfully lie about deep water drilling; he supported it, there was a terrible accident, he became much more critical of it. The same pretty much goes for nuclear power.Actually, I don't recall Obama changing his mind on drilling or nuclear, just stopped talking about how they were safe.
Seriously? ??Did you read the quote I posted? It was from woman talking about how she asked Weiner to send her a picture of his weiner. So yeah.
But seriously, man, I thought you were better than this. I can accept you having a scandal. Everyone has a personal life and everyone makes a few bad decisions, but to be awkward and joke and lie about it before coming clean?Eh, I was never that impressed with him. He seemed more interested in mocking republicans then actually trying to take them down, and he never really deviated from defending the party as it was.
I'm actually surprised at the support this guy is getting. Listen, people. Any politician, knowing what happens when the US media gets even a whiff of sex, who sends lewd and semi-naked pictures to random women using HIS PERSONAL TWITTER ACCOUNT, is too goddamned STUPID to represent anyone.Certainly, it was pretty dumb. But beyond that... it's not some kind of moral failing. I think he understood how twitter worked: after all he had been chatting with these girls for a while. He just fucked up and sent out the picture by accident
If you were his wife, would you leave him? Realize that you don't know what their understandings are. She may very well accept this behavior. He doesn't physically contact the other women. He does things on line that sophisticated people might characterize as more like enjoying pornography than like having an in-person sexual affair.posted by John Cohen at 4:37 PM on June 6, 2011 [4 favorites]
NOTE: I'm not suggesting you're unsophisticated if you don't minimize this behavior and liken it to the use of pornography. I'm not even saying that you're unsophisticated if you expect husbands to refrain from using pornography... and from masturbating. But I do think that intelligent spouses draw their lines in different places.
His career in the house is over. Which of his colleagues will want to co-sponsor legislation with him, campaign with him, or have him campaign for them? No one. None of them will want to be subjected to election ads that show them with Anthony Weiner. Contributions? They're going to dry up.David Vitter's scandal was way worse. He probably won't be the "Star" that he had been.
Weiner Scandal: How Will Jon Stewart React On "The Daily Show?"posted by ericb at 6:00 PM on June 6, 2011
How Will Rep. Anthony Weiner's Good Friend Jon Stewart Cover His Scandal?
Delmoi, with respect, he didn't send them 'by accident'. He didn't trip over a loose bit of cable, plug in his camera (preloaded with cock shots) to break his fall, and land on his keyboard, thus hitting [ENTER]. He sent those pictures out deliberately.He sent it to her deliberately, he set public on accident.
What sort of thought process do you personally have to go through exactly for you to believe that a woman asking for a picture of someone means she wants to see your dick?What kind of thought process do you have to go to believe women that women never want to see men's penises? I just find it bizarre. Some women do, some don't.
I think this does way more damage to the Democratic Party than to Weiner himself. As others have noted, voters in his district would probably vote for a talking picture of a penis if it had a "D" next to its name. (Okay, maybe others have not noted that, exactly.) And honestly I can't really see it being that big a liability if/when he goes for mayor. But having one of their most visible firebrands discredited like this will be tough for the Democrats.Maybe if they had more firebrands it wouldn't be such a problem.
The scary thing about 'sexting' (god I hate calling it that) is the way its users often don't seem to view what they're doing as sexual activity.
Ted Haggard Rebuilds Family and Starts New Church.posted by ericb at 2:06 PM on June 15, 2011
Haggard's New Church Outgrows Barn.
Haggard's St. James Church.
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