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July 26, 2011 4:33 AM Subscribe
This post was deleted for the following reason: not a lot of there there with this one. Make a real post about it if it's a big deal, otherwise the ZOMG framing and the single only-suggestive post aren't really doing it for me or for anyone. -- jessamyn
Ok I read this and the only thing it confirms is that SmarTech HAD THE CAPABILITY. It doesn't offer proof they actually did anything. The Spoonboor dude basically says well the vote swung 6.7%, SmarTech had the capability to do it, therefore they did it. This is not the same thing as evidence that they did it. Did I miss a paragraph?
posted by spicynuts at 4:41 AM on July 26, 2011 [7 favorites]
posted by spicynuts at 4:41 AM on July 26, 2011 [7 favorites]
Pardon my ignorance in american political commentary, but isn't this tin-foil-hat-consipracy-grade crap "journalism" or am i on the whoosh side of things?
Also,
Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic [...]
Heh, talk about exaggerating. Colorful, though.
posted by palbo at 4:43 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
Also,
Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic [...]
Heh, talk about exaggerating. Colorful, though.
posted by palbo at 4:43 AM on July 26, 2011 [2 favorites]
One ragefilter special à la sauce faible to go, please.
posted by rudster at 4:45 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by rudster at 4:45 AM on July 26, 2011
I don't know about you guys, but Benzinga.com is my one stop shop for pictures of Karl Rove looking guilty AND non fact based journalism.
posted by to sir with millipedes at 4:46 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
posted by to sir with millipedes at 4:46 AM on July 26, 2011 [6 favorites]
Daily Kos seem to be calling conspiracy theory on this.
posted by peacay at 4:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by peacay at 4:50 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I have little doubt the Republicans stole both the 2000 and the 2004 elections, but it's admittedly just one of my many conspiracy theories. It sounds right, even though I have no smoking gun to point to.
posted by zardoz at 4:50 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by zardoz at 4:50 AM on July 26, 2011
John Kerry did a pretty good job losing the election all by himself.
posted by mkultra at 4:52 AM on July 26, 2011 [8 favorites]
posted by mkultra at 4:52 AM on July 26, 2011 [8 favorites]
Yeah, I'm fairly certain that fraud definitely happened in Ohio, but the article is pretty much crap. The tech jargon is especially laughable. Also, I remain unconvinced that Kerry would have been that much better of a choice. As I said back then, a ballot entry marked "NOT BUSH" would have done better than Kerry.
posted by Deathalicious at 4:57 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Deathalicious at 4:57 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Stolen election or no, putting a Man in the Middle on purpose, with no accountability, is at least a case for criminal negligence.
posted by LogicalDash at 4:57 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by LogicalDash at 4:57 AM on July 26, 2011
Benzinga.com? I'm going to hold off until we get confirmation from Alex Jones or possibly NaturalNews.
posted by shii at 4:59 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by shii at 4:59 AM on July 26, 2011 [4 favorites]
I still remember that election night very clearly. I was in Copley Square in Boston and it was raining. There was a huge crowd just milling around wanting to know what was going on, and around midnight or so, they finally sent someone out saying basically, "watch the news to find out what happens" which was received by the crowd with the same grace as "drink more ovaltine." That was a sad trip on the Red Line back to Cambridge.
posted by feloniousmonk at 5:00 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by feloniousmonk at 5:00 AM on July 26, 2011
Yikes- this reeks of tin foil to me.
posted by tgrundke at 5:11 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by tgrundke at 5:11 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
I am even beginning to question Chicago mayoral election results.
posted by bystander at 5:17 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by bystander at 5:17 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Flagged as "A stopped clock is right twice a day."
posted by Horace Rumpole at 5:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Horace Rumpole at 5:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
Do I still have to forget Anonymous?
posted by Obscure Reference at 5:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Obscure Reference at 5:20 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
If Kerry had selected Hillary as his running mate, it would have been all over. Edwards couldn't carry his home state - Hillary or Bob Graham could have delivered Arkansas/Florida, and swung more than one moderate red state blue. They would have solidifed things in places like Ohio with smart campaigning that woudl energize the base... these are seasoned and smart politicians who had a large and experienced organization behind them. Edwards looked good on TV. Sorta.
posted by Slap*Happy at 5:21 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Slap*Happy at 5:21 AM on July 26, 2011 [1 favorite]
The 2000 election was the first one my boyfriend was able to vote in, and he voted in Ohio. I've never seen him get quite as angry as when he talks about what he sees as obvious voter fraud that disenfranchised predominantly black neighborhoods around Cleveland. Too bad this article is wacky ...
posted by ChuraChura at 5:30 AM on July 26, 2011
posted by ChuraChura at 5:30 AM on July 26, 2011
In an alternate universe, a Kerry administration starting in 2004, combined with Democratic control of congress in 2006 (which did happen), could have reduced commitments in Iraq/Afghanistan, drawn down the military budget, done a moderate health care reform, and reversed the Bush tax cuts, making huge progress in reducing the budget deficit.
On the other hand, the 2008 crash would then have happened on Kerry's watch, so re-election might have been tough.
posted by gimonca at 5:34 AM on July 26, 2011
On the other hand, the 2008 crash would then have happened on Kerry's watch, so re-election might have been tough.
posted by gimonca at 5:34 AM on July 26, 2011
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