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This post was deleted for the following reason: This is kind of Bad Situation Is Bad and feels like a big fight waiting to happen besides. -- cortex
Sadly, the people who most need to hear this old news are the ones least likely to believe it.
posted by elizardbits at 2:03 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by elizardbits at 2:03 PM on August 2, 2011
Ha-ha, oh you don't say
posted by kittens for breakfast at 2:04 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by kittens for breakfast at 2:04 PM on August 2, 2011
Whoa whoa whoa - let me get this straight. A pro-choice group funds a study of anti-abortion pregnancy counseling centers and thinks they are inadequate? INCREDIBLE!
posted by chundo at 2:07 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by chundo at 2:07 PM on August 2, 2011
Women receiving advice from pregnancy counselling centres run by faith-based organisations are subjected to scaremongering, emotive language and inaccurate information about abortion, according to an undercover investigation by a pro-choice charity.
Did this really require an undercover investigation? I mean, really? Women receiving [women's health] advice from anyone indoctrinated in their faith are subjected to that kind of crap.
posted by phunniemee at 2:07 PM on August 2, 2011
Did this really require an undercover investigation? I mean, really? Women receiving [women's health] advice from anyone indoctrinated in their faith are subjected to that kind of crap.
posted by phunniemee at 2:07 PM on August 2, 2011
Faith-based pregnancy counselling centres found wanting
It's all a matter of what the goal of the centres is.
If it's to give pregnant women health care with compassion and dignity, then yeah, they're doing a crap job.
If it's to preserve the viability of all fetuses at any and all cost, then job well done blokes!
posted by Salvor Hardin at 2:08 PM on August 2, 2011 [1 favorite]
It's all a matter of what the goal of the centres is.
If it's to give pregnant women health care with compassion and dignity, then yeah, they're doing a crap job.
If it's to preserve the viability of all fetuses at any and all cost, then job well done blokes!
posted by Salvor Hardin at 2:08 PM on August 2, 2011 [1 favorite]
You know what else gets terminated?
posted by Curious Artificer at 2:09 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by Curious Artificer at 2:09 PM on August 2, 2011
Don't worry, this was only a survey of 10 locations in the UK. I'm sure the rest of the centers around the world are A-OK.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:09 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by filthy light thief at 2:09 PM on August 2, 2011
/knowing scoff, shake of the head
posted by QuarterlyProphet at 2:10 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by QuarterlyProphet at 2:10 PM on August 2, 2011
Is it American exceptionalism, or just cynicism that makes me sure that the "Crisis Pregnancy Centers" in the US are worse.
posted by sotonohito at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by sotonohito at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
health care counselling, I should have said
posted by Salvor Hardin at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by Salvor Hardin at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
I read the title and thought this was a link to an Onion article.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by Admiral Haddock at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011
Does anyone *actually* go into a faith-based centre and expect impartiality ? On *any* subject?
posted by GallonOfAlan at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by GallonOfAlan at 2:11 PM on August 2, 2011 [1 favorite]
That's why I go to the Bachmann clinic when I want good advice.
posted by Obscure Reference at 2:17 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by Obscure Reference at 2:17 PM on August 2, 2011
To be fair, it's not ONLY an announcement from the Department of the Bleeding Obvious.
Within the Guardian article is a link to the context/ back story:
Charities which provide abortions could be stripped of their ability to also counsel women, under plans being considered by the government...There are concerns that faith-based groups with strong anti-abortion positions could step in and win contracts to provide the counselling in place of the charities.
posted by Jody Tresidder at 2:20 PM on August 2, 2011
Within the Guardian article is a link to the context/ back story:
Charities which provide abortions could be stripped of their ability to also counsel women, under plans being considered by the government...There are concerns that faith-based groups with strong anti-abortion positions could step in and win contracts to provide the counselling in place of the charities.
posted by Jody Tresidder at 2:20 PM on August 2, 2011
They're not always clearly marked, GallonOfAlan. The one I went to at age 19 was marketed simply as a "women's health clinic", and the free pregnancy testing they offered was a significant enticement.
posted by sculpin at 2:21 PM on August 2, 2011
posted by sculpin at 2:21 PM on August 2, 2011
Chundo: "Whoa whoa whoa - let me get this straight. A pro-choice group funds a study of anti-abortion pregnancy counseling centers and thinks they are inadequate? INCREDIBLE!"
My concern is that if the articles worry-- that that the slashes in budget mean that doctors might end up having to point women to these places is accurate. Then quite rightly there should be an uproar about that's being peddled there, so that doesn't happen.
posted by Static Vagabond at 2:22 PM on August 2, 2011
My concern is that if the articles worry-- that that the slashes in budget mean that doctors might end up having to point women to these places is accurate. Then quite rightly there should be an uproar about that's being peddled there, so that doesn't happen.
posted by Static Vagabond at 2:22 PM on August 2, 2011
I doubt this post will survive
DELETION IS MURDER
posted by Sys Rq at 2:23 PM on August 2, 2011 [6 favorites]
DELETION IS MURDER
posted by Sys Rq at 2:23 PM on August 2, 2011 [6 favorites]
I think this is news in that the situation here in the UK has been different to that in the US; however a more politically engaged fundamentalist christianity does seem to have been on the rise. You could perhaps trace this back to the Blair era, with his willingness to let creationists run schools and Christian Voice effectively closing Jerry Springer the Opera.
We even have an MP who would fit in quite well among the Republican xian right, Nadine Dorries. She has in the past attempted to restrict abortion rights, utilising all kinds of nonsense. She's also known for the sheer amount of lying she seems to do - recently she had to admit that 70% of her blog was complete fiction.
posted by spectrevsrector at 2:24 PM on August 2, 2011
We even have an MP who would fit in quite well among the Republican xian right, Nadine Dorries. She has in the past attempted to restrict abortion rights, utilising all kinds of nonsense. She's also known for the sheer amount of lying she seems to do - recently she had to admit that 70% of her blog was complete fiction.
posted by spectrevsrector at 2:24 PM on August 2, 2011
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