Saying one thing and then instantly disproving yourself
August 6, 2011 12:02 PM Subscribe
You know the people who will say "I'm not racist"? That phrase is often followed with a 'but...' and a racist statement. Not Racist But tackles the problem on Facebook with ridicule, and @alittleracist tackles the same issue on Twitter. It'll make you facepalm with sadness and cringe with incredulity. (previously)
This post was deleted for the following reason: Lead link here is the lead link from the previous post you mention, not sure the twitter account is enough of a reason to have another thread so soon after. -- cortex
I'm not racist, but isn't this a double with the June post you linked to right there?
posted by beagle at 12:11 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by beagle at 12:11 PM on August 6, 2011
It'll make you facepalm with sadness and cringe with incredulity.
posted by infini at 12:13 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by infini at 12:13 PM on August 6, 2011
...almost all the locals were incredibly genuine, kind, and intelligent people.
Doesthis generalizationthe fact that I reported this as news make me racist?
posted by DU at 12:15 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
Does
posted by DU at 12:15 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
If I want to wallow in this particular mudpit, I peruse my local newspaper's website. The comments therein are worthy of stormfront.org, but with less attention to grammar and spelling.
IMMIGRUNTS R TAKIN R JERBS!!!!
Sometimes it's frightening to realize just how many hatefully stupid people live around me, then I realize that the comments section of the local newspaper's website isn't representative of the place as a whole, since the non-hateful and less-stupid generally have more important things to do than spend their hours dripping venom on a local message board.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 12:16 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
IMMIGRUNTS R TAKIN R JERBS!!!!
Sometimes it's frightening to realize just how many hatefully stupid people live around me, then I realize that the comments section of the local newspaper's website isn't representative of the place as a whole, since the non-hateful and less-stupid generally have more important things to do than spend their hours dripping venom on a local message board.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 12:16 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
I can't read these. They make me too angry. I don't wanna start a dialog with these worms, I just wanna start punching them.
posted by EatTheWeek at 12:17 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by EatTheWeek at 12:17 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
Do these pants make my ass look racist?
posted by found missing at 12:17 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by found missing at 12:17 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
DU: lemme rephrase:
suppose, after my experience in Bali, I told friends that the Balinese are a kind, gentle, intelligent people.
That would be a generalization, wouldn't it?
Now I'm not excusing some of the comments made in the FPP link, but it's interesting to examine why we consider some statements to be racist, while others not. Is it the generalization that we don't like? Or is it the polarity of the generalization?
posted by spacediver at 12:24 PM on August 6, 2011
suppose, after my experience in Bali, I told friends that the Balinese are a kind, gentle, intelligent people.
That would be a generalization, wouldn't it?
Now I'm not excusing some of the comments made in the FPP link, but it's interesting to examine why we consider some statements to be racist, while others not. Is it the generalization that we don't like? Or is it the polarity of the generalization?
posted by spacediver at 12:24 PM on August 6, 2011
This is not only a double post, it's a stupid post. Racist things are racist, yes. That's not a reason to republish them all over the internet.
Seriously, sometimes I wonder what's wrong with us as human beings that we find things like this fascinating. Sure, we're not racist, but we seem to love gawking at racists.
posted by koeselitz at 12:26 PM on August 6, 2011
Seriously, sometimes I wonder what's wrong with us as human beings that we find things like this fascinating. Sure, we're not racist, but we seem to love gawking at racists.
posted by koeselitz at 12:26 PM on August 6, 2011
1. Otherize "racism" as something that only bad people possess
2. Still have racist thoughts, despite not seeing oneself as a bad person
3. Make racist statements, all the while disclaiming "racism," implying that only other people are racist
4. ???
5.Profit Maintain and enforce status quo
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
2. Still have racist thoughts, despite not seeing oneself as a bad person
3. Make racist statements, all the while disclaiming "racism," implying that only other people are racist
4. ???
5.
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
I find it painful that none of these racist statements are .... articulate. Are they selecting out the good grammar and proper spelling for this blog?
Mockery makes it hard to open a dialog about this issue.
posted by bilabial at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
Mockery makes it hard to open a dialog about this issue.
posted by bilabial at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'm sure there are plenty of assholes in Bali.
posted by Threeway Handshake at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by Threeway Handshake at 12:28 PM on August 6, 2011
spacediver, this seems like a pretty dubious thread in which to play the "it's all actually about me" game.
posted by hermitosis at 12:29 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by hermitosis at 12:29 PM on August 6, 2011
I'm not racist, but I think the new Ruby Redbird from Shiner is delicious.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 12:30 PM on August 6, 2011 [2 favorites]
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 12:30 PM on August 6, 2011 [2 favorites]
Also, I get the feeling you don't know this, SharQ: double posts are usually deleted here on metafilter. I mention this because this seems to be a textbook example, and because you seem to have linked to the original in your post itself, so I'm guessing you aren't aware of this loose guideline.
posted by koeselitz at 12:32 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by koeselitz at 12:32 PM on August 6, 2011
Me and the wife went on holiday to Sumaria last year and they were lovely people.
posted by cgk at 12:33 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by cgk at 12:33 PM on August 6, 2011
I'm not being racist, right, but can I get that with no cheese.
posted by benito.strauss at 12:33 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by benito.strauss at 12:33 PM on August 6, 2011
I'm not racist, but I think the new Ruby Redbird from Shiner is delicious.
Finally, the truth.
As as for whether saying, "X people are really nice", it may not be detrimentally racist, but it sure is inaccurate. What you may have meant to say was, "I did not personally feel that my person or pride was in danger while among the X people". Although, you need to scratch under the surface. See "Southern hospitality".
posted by hanoixan at 12:34 PM on August 6, 2011
Finally, the truth.
As as for whether saying, "X people are really nice", it may not be detrimentally racist, but it sure is inaccurate. What you may have meant to say was, "I did not personally feel that my person or pride was in danger while among the X people". Although, you need to scratch under the surface. See "Southern hospitality".
posted by hanoixan at 12:34 PM on August 6, 2011
This is not only a double post, it's a stupid post. Racist things are racist, yes. That's not a reason to republish them all over the internet.
This. Seriously, why are we doing this?
posted by Gator at 12:34 PM on August 6, 2011
This. Seriously, why are we doing this?
posted by Gator at 12:34 PM on August 6, 2011
I'm not a racist, but those race cars sure are noisy, and what a waste of gas.
posted by Devils Rancher at 12:35 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Devils Rancher at 12:35 PM on August 6, 2011 [3 favorites]
The Blue People are the best. Sometimes the Green People have something to say. I don't understand MetaTalk, because it involves the Brown or Grey People (depending on your monitor).
posted by twoleftfeet at 12:35 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by twoleftfeet at 12:35 PM on August 6, 2011
This. Seriously, why are we doing this?
It's in our blood.
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2011
It's in our blood.
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2011
See also, "I'm an atheist, but..."
Equally annoying and frequently hypocritical wankers.
posted by Decani at 12:39 PM on August 6, 2011
Equally annoying and frequently hypocritical wankers.
posted by Decani at 12:39 PM on August 6, 2011
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Does this generalization make me racist?
posted by spacediver at 12:07 PM on August 6, 2011