"Even if a majority of white men are uninterested in dating black women, that still leaves more than enough eligible white men for every single black woman in America."
@KokuRyu I'm wondering if it makes sense to categorize people according to skin colour here. It's more about culture and shared experiences, isn't it?In part, but the fear that offspring will have Caucasian features is purely a racial issue.
@ Leslie212 I'd (again) like to see stats on this. Please include not just what people say, but what they do. Also, what about the many guys who'll date but not marry black women? And what about the guys who see black women as fetish objects instead of partners?Is there a difference between a guy who is attracted to black women and a fetishist? Does the desire to pursue a lasting relationship turn a fetishist into a non-fetishist? If a white man is attracted to blondes with blue eyes but doesn't want to pursue a relationship, is he a fetishist when he seeks them out for casual encounters. I'm willing to go with you on this, but my first impression is that "fetishist" is a way of making white guys uncomfortable for thinking black women are hot.
@scodyNo, that has a social/cultural component too, if the fear on the mother's part is that she will be assumed to be (and treated as) the child's nanny in public. This plays into a long and troubling history of black women raising white children both during and after slavery.
i just....can't......white people.....i.......What white person has brought this comment on? The author of the article self-identifies within it as a "black man". Or are you perhaps referring to other MeFi commenters?
to the color of people voluntarily scrambling to teach white people about their experiences and trying to convince them that your life exists while constantly being doubted: bless your hearts, i wish i had that much patience and energy.
I believe that the author is saying that if more black women were open to dating men other than black men, that would put more pressure on black men to attempt to make themselves more desirable to those women, as they would have to face increased competition over those women from other men. And thus those women would have more leverage over those men.As more black women expanded their options, black women as a group would have more leverage with black men.what
the history of Ancient and Modern Humbugs would not be complete without a record of the last and one of the most successful of known literary hoaxes. This is the pamphlet entitled “Miscegenation,” which advocates the blending of the white and black races upon this continent, as a result not only inevitable from the freeing of the negro, but desirable as a means of creating a more perfect race of men than any now existing. This pamphlet is a clever political quiz; and was written by three young gentlemen of the “World” newspaper, namely. D. G. Croly, George Wakeman, and E. C. Howell.
I'd be interested to get other perspectives on this blog post, which suggests that the word "miscegenation" comes from a Civil War era hoax/trollfest. His authority is P.T. Barnum, who strikes me as the very definition of an unreliable source.The OED gives no cite for "miscegenation" earlier than 1863, and gives the following as its etymology:
Irregularly < classical Latin miscēre to mix (see MIXED adj.2) + genus race (see GENUS n.) + -ATION suffix. Coined by David Goodman Croly and George Wakeman in an anonymously published hoax pamphlet circulated in 1863, which implied that the American Republican party favoured mixed-race relationships (see quot. 1863 at sense 1). Compare Portuguese miscigenação (c1960).posted by Flunkie at 12:39 PM on August 7, 2011 [2 favorites]
Bulworth: "Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people. But white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people. We just gotta eliminate them. "posted by Bora Horza Gobuchul at 12:40 PM on August 7, 2011 [10 favorites]
TV Interviewer: "Eliminate?"
Bulworth: "Eliminate."
TV Interviewer: "Who, rich people?"
Bulworth: "White people. Black people too, brown people, yellow people, get rid of 'em all. All we need is a voluntary, free spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction."
Cut to confused TV Interviewer.
Bulworth: "Everybody just gotta keep fucking everybody til they're all the same color."
...Asians and Latinos intermarry at much higher rates than blacks. About 30% of Asian and Latino marriages are interracial, but the corresponding figure for blacks is only 17%. However, if we include only U.S.-born Asians and Latinos, we find that intermarriage rates are much higher. Nearly, three-quarters (72%) of married, U.S.-born Asians, and over half (52%) of U.S.-born Latinos are interracially married, and most often, the intermarriage is with a white partner. While the intermarriage rate for blacks has risen steadily in the past five decades, it is still far below that of Asians and Latinos, especially those born in the United States...posted by TheophileEscargot at 2:13 PM on August 7, 2011 [7 favorites]
...The legacy of the one-drop-rule remains culturally intact, explaining why 75-90% of black Americans are ancestrally multiracial, yet only 7% choose to identify as such. It also explains why we, as Americans, are so attuned to identifying black ancestry in a way that we are not similarly attuned to identifying and constraining Asian and Latino ancestries.
Hawaii had the highest share of mixed marriages, about 32 percent. It was followed by Alaska, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Nevada, which ranged from 15 percent to 19 percent. The bottom five states were Pennsylvania, Maine, Kentucky, Mississippi and West Virginia, each ranging from 3 percent to 4 percent.Why will they marry Asian women and Latina women at significantly higher rates than they will marry black women?
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Tragic and unforgivable.
posted by bowline at 10:48 AM on August 7, 2011 [25 favorites]