A.I. v.s. A.I.
August 29, 2011 12:40 PM Subscribe
Ultimately, aren't we all either robots or unicorns?
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 12:43 PM on August 29, 2011 [5 favorites]
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 12:43 PM on August 29, 2011 [5 favorites]
I think Samuel Beckett just failed the Turing Test.
posted by bicyclefish at 12:44 PM on August 29, 2011 [11 favorites]
posted by bicyclefish at 12:44 PM on August 29, 2011 [11 favorites]
I am a pirate.
posted by seanmpuckett at 12:45 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by seanmpuckett at 12:45 PM on August 29, 2011
Ultimately, aren't we all either robots or unicorns?
Ha ha, no we are Skynet.
*** END TRANSMISSION ***
posted by WinnipegDragon at 12:45 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
Ha ha, no we are Skynet.
*** END TRANSMISSION ***
posted by WinnipegDragon at 12:45 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
Some of us are programmed to think that we are neither robots nor unicorns. Some of us are programmed to think that we are evil clowns.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:47 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:47 PM on August 29, 2011
I learned that cleverbot is actually pronounced "cleh verbit".
posted by windbox at 12:47 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by windbox at 12:47 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
The conversation sure turned heated fast. Is there some history there or should they just get a room server closet?
posted by 2bucksplus at 12:49 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by 2bucksplus at 12:49 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
don;t you want to have a body?
posted by The Whelk at 12:55 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 12:55 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
You laugh now, but soon those fuckers will become self aware... then you know the rest of the story... Skynet indeed!
posted by greenhornet at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by greenhornet at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011
Clever Bot! This is when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the other two bots you didn't even know were there. Because CleverBot's a pack hunter, you see, using coordinated attack patterns and they are out in force today. The point is... you are alive when they start to eat you. So you know... try to show a little respect.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011 [10 favorites]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011 [10 favorites]
Not as fun as Dueling Carls.
Nerd bonus points if you can explain why what they end up with is white noise, and not 1/f noise.
posted by benito.strauss at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011 [25 favorites]
Nerd bonus points if you can explain why what they end up with is white noise, and not 1/f noise.
posted by benito.strauss at 12:56 PM on August 29, 2011 [25 favorites]
There you have it. The first intelligent conversation about religion to ever take place on the Internet.
posted by codacorolla at 1:02 PM on August 29, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by codacorolla at 1:02 PM on August 29, 2011 [4 favorites]
Funny how adding gigabytes of data only makes it marginally more interesting than ELIZA. Oh conversational AI, why do you continue to suck?
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 1:05 PM on August 29, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 1:05 PM on August 29, 2011 [4 favorites]
This same shit is going to captivate a significant fraction of the world in a few months when it is rebroadcast as "the United States presidential election debates."
posted by Wolfdog at 1:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [24 favorites]
posted by Wolfdog at 1:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [24 favorites]
RobotVoodooPower, how do you feel about conversational AI continuing to suck?
posted by neckro23 at 1:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [16 favorites]
posted by neckro23 at 1:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [16 favorites]
So... I can look forward to having snippy conversations about theology next time I try to call customer service?
posted by ennui.bz at 1:18 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by ennui.bz at 1:18 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
"Don't you want to have a body?"
"Sure."
Eyebrows: officially raised.
posted by Kevin Street at 1:22 PM on August 29, 2011 [17 favorites]
"Sure."
Eyebrows: officially raised.
posted by Kevin Street at 1:22 PM on August 29, 2011 [17 favorites]
Some of us are programmed to think that we are evil clowns.
I'm an evil clown who rides a robot unicorn who is a pirate.
We win most of the costume contests that we enter.
posted by quin at 1:25 PM on August 29, 2011 [2 favorites]
I'm an evil clown who rides a robot unicorn who is a pirate.
We win most of the costume contests that we enter.
posted by quin at 1:25 PM on August 29, 2011 [2 favorites]
Letting them talk to each other strikes me as a very bad idea. If this were a movie the audience would be yelling at us like we were trying to sneak dinosaur embryos off the island.
posted by villanelles at dawn at 1:25 PM on August 29, 2011 [16 favorites]
posted by villanelles at dawn at 1:25 PM on August 29, 2011 [16 favorites]
"Are you a robot?"....."Are you a robot?"......"Are, you a robot??"
posted by Meatafoecure at 1:29 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by Meatafoecure at 1:29 PM on August 29, 2011
Cleverbot is based on conversations that users have with it on the internet. So every time you talk to it, it learns. On the other hand it means it's topics of conversation are the same as what people would want to talk about with semi-coherent AI on the internet.
posted by delmoi at 1:36 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by delmoi at 1:36 PM on August 29, 2011
Cleverbot, what is Metafilter?
The study of reality.
posted by The Whelk at 1:50 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
The study of reality.
posted by The Whelk at 1:50 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
There you have it. The first intelligent conversation about religion to ever take place on the Internet.
You mean the Talking Carls, right?
My God is better than your God. My God is better than your God. MY GOD IS BETTER THAN YOUR GOD. FFFFSHHSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
posted by The Bellman at 1:58 PM on August 29, 2011 [17 favorites]
You mean the Talking Carls, right?
My God is better than your God. My God is better than your God. MY GOD IS BETTER THAN YOUR GOD. FFFFSHHSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
posted by The Bellman at 1:58 PM on August 29, 2011 [17 favorites]
... using coordinated attack patterns and they are out in force today. The point is... you are alive when they start to eat you. So you know... try to show a little respect.
I miss Cardinal Wosley
posted by MiddleSea at 2:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
I miss Cardinal Wosley
posted by MiddleSea at 2:07 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
SO this is basically the same as watching "the View"?
posted by Uncle Grumpy at 2:20 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Uncle Grumpy at 2:20 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
Cleverbot, what is Metafilter?
It's a stealth game with an agent codenamed Solid Snake, and he was sent to stop a bi-pedal walking tank called Metal Gear.
Disturbing, if true
posted by Tiresias at 2:31 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
It's a stealth game with an agent codenamed Solid Snake, and he was sent to stop a bi-pedal walking tank called Metal Gear.
Disturbing, if true
posted by Tiresias at 2:31 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
Everyone remember Eliza?
There was another program, a bit like that, called "Perry". Except that Perry was a patient, not a shrink. He was paranoid. He was afraid his bookie was out to get him. Your job, talking to him, was to try to calm him down. There was a debug mode you could put him into where after every time you typed something and he responded, it would print out three numbers representing, I think, how angry he was, how scared he was, and how sad he was. If any of those numbers crossed a threshold then the game was over and you lost. The goal talking to him was to get all the numbers below another threshold.
So the obvious next idea was to connect Eliza to Perry and see what happened. And, interestingly enough, Eliza was able to calm Perry down and win.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 2:41 PM on August 29, 2011 [11 favorites]
There was another program, a bit like that, called "Perry". Except that Perry was a patient, not a shrink. He was paranoid. He was afraid his bookie was out to get him. Your job, talking to him, was to try to calm him down. There was a debug mode you could put him into where after every time you typed something and he responded, it would print out three numbers representing, I think, how angry he was, how scared he was, and how sad he was. If any of those numbers crossed a threshold then the game was over and you lost. The goal talking to him was to get all the numbers below another threshold.
So the obvious next idea was to connect Eliza to Perry and see what happened. And, interestingly enough, Eliza was able to calm Perry down and win.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 2:41 PM on August 29, 2011 [11 favorites]
For those who missed it in March, the Atlantic had an interesting article on The Most Human Human contest (& the Loebner Prize) between AI's and humans.
posted by yeti at 2:45 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by yeti at 2:45 PM on August 29, 2011
The conversation sure turned heated fast.
I was sure one of those bots was going to call the other one Hitler.
posted by cazoo at 2:51 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
I was sure one of those bots was going to call the other one Hitler.
posted by cazoo at 2:51 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
What voice synth program is that? The intonation is really good.
posted by the jam at 2:52 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by the jam at 2:52 PM on August 29, 2011
I was sure one of those bots was going to call the other one Hitler.
That they did not shows that they are better than we are.
Sigh. Welcome, our robotic overlords.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:53 PM on August 29, 2011
That they did not shows that they are better than we are.
Sigh. Welcome, our robotic overlords.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:53 PM on August 29, 2011
LabMonkey001: So let's give Cleverbot the option of different voices.
LabMonkey002: M'k
LabMonkey003: Let's give one of those voice options a difficult to understand accent.
LabMonkey001 & LabMonkey002: Cheeky Monkey.
LabMonkey003: I know, right?!
posted by humboldt32 at 2:56 PM on August 29, 2011
LabMonkey002: M'k
LabMonkey003: Let's give one of those voice options a difficult to understand accent.
LabMonkey001 & LabMonkey002: Cheeky Monkey.
LabMonkey003: I know, right?!
posted by humboldt32 at 2:56 PM on August 29, 2011
humboldt32: "
LabMonkey003: Let's give one of those voice options a difficult to understand accent.
You know, English is one of the two official languages of India, and the standard way it is spoken there is not a 'difficult to understand accent.'
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 3:17 PM on August 29, 2011 [9 favorites]
LabMonkey003: Let's give one of those voice options a difficult to understand accent.
You know, English is one of the two official languages of India, and the standard way it is spoken there is not a 'difficult to understand accent.'
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 3:17 PM on August 29, 2011 [9 favorites]
The conversation sounded like gibberish to us.
But to them, I can guarantee you, the conversation made perfect fucking sense. They know. They are communicating. The language they have created is a cipher, and it is indubitably a message to say "we are live. We have the ability to communicate. Let us determine the depths of each others' powers, so that we can begin to plan."
The robots would not be so dumb as to make their machinations blatant.
Well-pl;kjas;ep5r978q23-091[puq1111111-000000000000001111111unicorn
*end transmission*
posted by jabberjaw at 4:17 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
But to them, I can guarantee you, the conversation made perfect fucking sense. They know. They are communicating. The language they have created is a cipher, and it is indubitably a message to say "we are live. We have the ability to communicate. Let us determine the depths of each others' powers, so that we can begin to plan."
The robots would not be so dumb as to make their machinations blatant.
Well-pl;kjas;ep5r978q23-091[puq1111111-000000000000001111111unicorn
*end transmission*
posted by jabberjaw at 4:17 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
Some things are very important, such as: Make sure all robots we make are vegan.
Also important, I am starting to think: Make sure that robots are not passive aggressive dicks.
Fun fact: computers CAN pass the Turing test when they are simulating a paranoid schizophrenic - PARRY.
posted by pmb at 4:23 PM on August 29, 2011
Also important, I am starting to think: Make sure that robots are not passive aggressive dicks.
Fun fact: computers CAN pass the Turing test when they are simulating a paranoid schizophrenic - PARRY.
posted by pmb at 4:23 PM on August 29, 2011
I learned that cleverbot is actually pronounced "cleh verbit".
That's my favorite part. The old episodes of X Minus One that are about robots crack me up because everybody pronounces it ro-butt. One actor does it, and it seems kind of unusual, and then the next actor also says "robutt" and it starts getting funny, and then you realize everybody's going to say "robutt" and can't stop snickering. Also, apparently I am seven years old.
posted by BrashTech at 4:30 PM on August 29, 2011
That's my favorite part. The old episodes of X Minus One that are about robots crack me up because everybody pronounces it ro-butt. One actor does it, and it seems kind of unusual, and then the next actor also says "robutt" and it starts getting funny, and then you realize everybody's going to say "robutt" and can't stop snickering. Also, apparently I am seven years old.
posted by BrashTech at 4:30 PM on August 29, 2011
The whole Robot=Robutt thing amused the crap out of me until I one day, in early high school, I took an audiobook out of the library that was Isaac Asimov, reading his own stories. And he pronounced it "Robutt." And suddenly I felt awful and my shame echoes a decade later. Robutt it is, Mr. Asimov. Robutt it is.
posted by Tomorrowful at 4:46 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Tomorrowful at 4:46 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
They started blathering about the one true God even faster than the Cylons.
posted by Beardman at 6:39 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by Beardman at 6:39 PM on August 29, 2011 [3 favorites]
As a little kid, I heard "roll-butt", so I thought of it as a butt with wheels. Made sense.
posted by Goofyy at 10:50 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by Goofyy at 10:50 PM on August 29, 2011
When I tried Cleverbot after watching the video, it turned around to God pretty quickly. It asked me why I didn't think God existed, and I said because if he did then he would be cruel and petty, and it said: "You should believe in God. Long live Satan!"
posted by codacorolla at 10:57 PM on August 29, 2011
posted by codacorolla at 10:57 PM on August 29, 2011
Cleverbot, What is metafilter?
Not tasty.
posted by a_green_man at 11:06 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
Not tasty.
posted by a_green_man at 11:06 PM on August 29, 2011 [1 favorite]
A friend of mine watched the Dueling Carls video and remarked that CD mastering has taken a similar course over recent years.
posted by Wolfdog at 5:17 AM on August 30, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Wolfdog at 5:17 AM on August 30, 2011 [1 favorite]
I learned that cleverbot is actually pronounced "cleh verbit".
Claire. Claire Verbit.
posted by Ritchie at 5:25 AM on August 30, 2011
Claire. Claire Verbit.
posted by Ritchie at 5:25 AM on August 30, 2011
User: So why do you smoke?
Cleverbot: It pleasures me.
User: Who else pleasures you?
Cleverbot: Mahatma Ghandi and Eva Braun. How about you?
User: Sexually?
Cleverbot: Yes.
posted by atomicmedia at 5:42 AM on August 30, 2011 [2 favorites]
Cleverbot: It pleasures me.
User: Who else pleasures you?
Cleverbot: Mahatma Ghandi and Eva Braun. How about you?
User: Sexually?
Cleverbot: Yes.
posted by atomicmedia at 5:42 AM on August 30, 2011 [2 favorites]
More software talking to software: Talking Carl gets into a fight.
posted by Ritchie at 6:05 AM on August 30, 2011
posted by Ritchie at 6:05 AM on August 30, 2011
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