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		<title>William Brown - Mississippi Blues</title>
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		<description>William Brown was a man who recorded a handful of blues on Sadie Beck&apos;s Plantation on July 16, 1942 for &lt;a href=&quot;http://lccn.loc.gov/2002522628&quot; title=&quot;Library of Congress-Fisk University Mississippi Delta collection, 1941-1942 - collected by Alan Lomax for the Archive of Folk Culture, Library of Congress, and by members of the Fisk University faculty.&quot;&gt;Alan Lomax&lt;/a&gt;. Once thought to be the same man as the Willie Brown who played with Son House and Charley Patton--and was immortalized in Robert Johnson&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Crossroad Blues&lt;/em&gt;--the consensus now is that William Brown was a different man, about &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=ykHtup92Er0C&amp;pg=PA6&amp;lpg=PA6&amp;dq=%22William+Brown%22+%22Blues%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=0qc3rI5Rgv&amp;sig=vj62SFUgkKI8tZjWe7AzwxwmG9o&amp;hl=en&quot; title=&quot;&quot;&gt;whom&lt;/a&gt; we know next to nothing. Certainly, the handful of recordings we have that feature him supports this. The Willie Brown who recorded &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An9rC8olaVY&quot; title=&quot;Willie Brown (August 6, 1900 December 30, 1952) was an American delta blues guitarist and singer. Born in Clarksdale, Mississippi, Brown played with such notables as Charley Patton, and Robert Johnson. He was not known to be a self-promoting frontman, preferring to &apos;&apos;second&apos;&apos; other musicians. Little is known for certain of the man whom Robert Johnson called &apos;&apos;my friend-boy, Willie Brown&apos;&apos; (in his prophetic &apos;&apos;Cross Road Blues&apos;&apos;) and whom Johnson indicated should be notified in event of his death. Brown is heard with Patton on the Paramount sessions of 1930, playing &quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Future Blues&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDZnwPzE8GE&quot; title=&quot;M &amp; O Blues Willie Brown Recordingdate : Wed 28 May 1930, Pm 13090, Paramount Records&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;M &amp;amp; O Blues&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; was an archetypal Delta bluesman, with both songs being stripped down versions of Charley Patton&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Screamin&apos; and Hollerin&apos; the Blues&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, among others, and &lt;em&gt;Pony Blues&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, respectively. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=611.0;all&quot; title=&quot;Country Blues - Weenie Campbell Main Forum - Two or Three William Browns?&quot;&gt;William Brown&lt;/a&gt; who recorded &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz8dJ5TjZbI&quot; title=&quot;SLYT&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mississippi Blues&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSmMyTO3XtQ&quot; title=&quot;SLYT&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ragged and Dirty&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r91naZafqBA&quot; title=&quot;SLYT&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Make Me a Pallet on the Floor&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; plays and sings nothing like that Willie Brown. That we know nothing about him and never heard any more of his music is one of the many tragedies of recorded blues. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mississippi Blues&lt;/em&gt; was tabbed early on by Stefan Grossman, resulting with it being the &lt;em&gt;Stairway to Heaven&lt;/em&gt; of Mississippi blues, according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=611.msg4591#msg4591&quot; title=&quot;Hi all, I think one of the things that is tough about making &apos;&apos;Mississippi Blues&apos;&apos; come alive is that it is so beautifully conceived that there can be a tendency to want to make it &quot;&gt;John Miller&lt;/a&gt; at Weenie Campbell, and, by a variety of sources, it is a song regarded as one Delta blues everyone must learn. 

But, although, recorded in the Delta, it is in fact the least Delta blues of all Delta blues, being based on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://weeniecampbell.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=3160.0;all&quot; title=&quot;Maybe old news - for months I&apos;ve been trying to remember which Walter Davis track Willie Brown&apos;s Mississippi Blues is based on - unsurprising as I&apos;ve tracked it down to Hard Times by Charlie Spand.&quot;&gt;piano instrumental&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Hard Times&lt;/em&gt; by Charlie Spand or , possibly, &lt;em&gt;Sunrise Serenade&lt;/em&gt; by the Glenn Miller Orchestra, depending upon who you read. Weenie Campbell&apos;s forum leans toward Spand, for what it is worth.

And, as for his &lt;em&gt;Ragged and Dirty&lt;/em&gt;, that seems to be based upon Sleepy John Estes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpNwUeurWE&quot; title=&quot;From Weenie Campbell&apos;s forum on William Brown&apos;s Ragged and Dirty: &apos;&apos;There are rather extensive notes by our friend David Evans (lets get him back next year, eh?) that clearly credit both recordings to the same individual, quoting heavily from Lomax&apos;s memoirs. He also discusses the connection to the Sleepy John Estes version of R &amp; D and states that William&apos;s guitar work seems to mimic both Yank&apos;s mando and Jab Jones&apos; piano. I particularly like R &amp; D (character flaws aside) because of it&apos;s strong chromatic feel. The only note missing from the chromatic scale, in both the melody and guitar arrangement, is the flat second, yet every note is justified. This was a real theory lesson for me...&apos;&apos;&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Broken Hearted, Ragged and Dirty, Too&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Which is a masterpiece in itself.

Whoever, he was, and which song inspired him, &lt;em&gt;Mississippi Blues&lt;/em&gt; is a wonder, far more sophisticated and jazzy than anything else Lomax recorded. So, who was William Brown and where did he learn to play like that ? We will likely never know. But, at any rate, almost all of his recorded output can be found at The Roots Music Listening Room &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juneberry78s.com/sounds/ListenToRequests.htm&quot; title=&quot;Requests from Visitors to this website - Sorry, we won&apos;t be able to take any more requests until further notice.&quot;&gt;Listener&apos;s Request page&lt;/a&gt;, along with one &lt;em&gt;Worried Life Blues&lt;/em&gt; by David Edwards--that is, the late David &quot;Honeyboy&quot; Edwards. 

(By the way, because of Willie Blackwell and William Brown&apos;s&lt;em&gt;Four O&apos;Clock Blues&lt;/em&gt;, I came to be a grower of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.herbcompanion.com/in-the-herb-garden/garden-giveaway-its-time-for-four-oclock-flowers.aspx&quot; title=&quot;Garden Giveaway: It&apos;s Time for Four O&apos;Clock Flowers&quot;&gt;Four O&apos;Clock Flowers&lt;/a&gt;.)

Tabs for &lt;em&gt;Mississipi Blues&lt;/em&gt; can be found at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.torvund.net/guitar/index.php?page=bl_mississippiblues&quot; title=&quot;The next tune is &#0171;Mississippi Blues&#0187;, which was recorded for the Library of Congress by one Willie Brown. We know next to nothing about this , who is not the Willie Brown who played with Charley Patton and Son House, and who recorded classics such as &#0171;M &amp; O Blues&#0187; and &#0171;Future Blues&#0187;.&quot;&gt;Olav Torvund&apos;s Guitar Site&lt;/a&gt; and SteveMcWilliams tab section at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acousticfingerstyle.com/midifil2.htm#Steve_McWillaim&quot; title=&quot;These pages are dedicated to the art of Fingerstyle Guitar.   If you&apos;re new to Fingerstyle Guitar, read the Wikipedia definitions below...&quot;&gt;Acoustic Finger Style&lt;/a&gt;. Guitar&lt;/a&gt;

On CD, it can be found on the Library of Congress lp &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rounder.com/2011/03/albums/negro-blues-and-hollers&quot; title=&quot;Reissue produced by Bob Carlin, 1996. &apos;&apos;The most significant [field] recordings in 1941 were those made in Mississippi by Alan Lomax, John W. Work and Lewis Jones, which form part of a collaboration between the Library of Congress and Fisk University. . . .&apos;&apos; &#8211;John Crowley &apos;&apos;I knew this was to be my last song-collecting jaunt before the army got me, maybe the last time I would ever hear the alley blues and the hallelujah spirituals that I believe are the best art our country has produced.&apos;&apos; &#8211;Alan Lomax&quot;&gt;Negro Blues and Hollers&lt;/a&gt;, reissued by Rounder Records as well as on Document Records&apos; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.document-records.com/fulldetails.asp?ProdID=DOCD-5320&quot; title=&quot;...The Willie Blackwell track Four O&apos;Clock (Flower) Blues was recorded on the Arkansas shore after the party had been driven from Memphis by the police. According to Alan Lomax, William Brown was a markedly level headed person who had a &apos;sweet, true country voice&apos; and was known for his delicate guitar playing. He identified &apos;Ragged and Dirty&apos; as an archetypal Blues masterpiece.&quot;&gt;Mississippi Blues &amp;amp; Gospel 1934-1942&lt;/a&gt;. Both of which seem to have gone out of print for the time being, alas. So, get thee to a used record store for those. Both are well worth having.</description>
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		<title>By: MinPin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896908</link>	
		<description>This is a masterclass, y2karl. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:23:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mojohand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896916</link>	
		<description>Nice work.  Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:31:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drjimmy11</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896918</link>	
		<description>Great post!

&lt;small&gt;No &lt;em&gt;Mississippi Blues&lt;/em&gt;! Denied!&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:32:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LarryC</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896925</link>	
		<description>We&apos;re not worthy!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:39:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Godspeed.You!Black.Emperor.Penguin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896930</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m pretty sure the real Willie Brown was friends with Daniel Larusso.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:43:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896938</link>	
		<description>Now that&apos;s what I call a music post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:51:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896966</link>	
		<description>It is my 500th post and this is my 7900th comment -- all researched, made and posted via dial up, for what it is worth. I must be the last of the dinosaurs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:10:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JohnnyGunn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3896989</link>	
		<description>I am not sure which is neater, the dial up or the post.  Great post.  Love the blues.  Much appreciated.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:20:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamvasco</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897013</link>	
		<description>y2karl; your posts were one of the reasons I became interested in metafilter; both the music al and the political ones.
Many congratulations on your 500. This post makes me as content as the kitteh in your profile.
Really people if you want to see some outstanding blues posts just look this man&apos;s history.
Of all of those great posts I think that this was one was outstanding: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/45137/Dark-Was-The-NightCold-Was-The-Ground-by-Blind-Willie-Johnson&quot;&gt;Dark was the night&lt;/a&gt;.
Many, many thanks and if I ever get to Seattle again the beers are on me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:33:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stonestock Relentless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897073</link>	
		<description>Dial up is the Delta Blues of internet connections.
I am donning headphones and wading in, thank you!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897424</link>	
		<description>Yes, great post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:04:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spitbull</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897505</link>	
		<description>A y2karl music post . . . OMG.  Metafilter Old School Style....  Kids, pay attention.  This is how it gets done. 

This makes my damn week.  Thank you so much!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:26:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spitbull</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897506</link>	
		<description>(Favoriting this so hard they&apos;ll hear it in the next damn galaxy. )</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:27:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inkisbetter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/106986/William-Brown-Mississippi-Blues#3897549</link>	
		<description>Hell yes. Excellent post. William Brown was one of the greats.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:15:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: y2karl</title>
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		<description>Well, my bad: I jumped to the conclusion that the William Brown not Willie Brown, who, in 1942, recorded &lt;em&gt;East St. Louis Blues&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Mississippi Blues&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Ragged and Dirty&lt;/em&gt; and backed Willie &apos;61&apos; Blackwell on &lt;em&gt;Four O&apos;Clock Blues&lt;/em&gt; was the same William Brown who recorded &lt;em&gt;Make Me A Pallet on the Floor&lt;/em&gt;. I was wondering about this last night, thinking the latter song is far more ragtime old timey in its tempo and changes than the preceding titles. And I come to find that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=mSbw5i0x_5sC&amp;pg=PA101&amp;lpg=PA101&amp;dq=%22William+Brown%22+%22Make+Me+a+Pallet+on+the+Floor%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=v9M6W-7IUa&amp;sig=Jnb0SPEQqxaozlGRJqqrJLhi_08&amp;hl=en#v=onepage&amp;q=%22William%20Brown%22%20%22Make%20Me%20a%20Pallet%20on%20the%20Floor%22&amp;f=false&quot; title=&quot;Delta Blues: The Life and Times of the Mississippi Masters Who Revolutionized American Music by Ted Gioia&quot;&gt;by no means universal consensus&lt;/a&gt; is that it is Willie Brown who plays and sings the song. 

Another odd thought - I always thought Willie &apos;61&apos; Blackwell had it wrong with his four o&apos;clock flowers, having them open in the morning and close in the afternoon. The standard description of them has them doing exactly the opposite: staying closed in the morning and opening in the afternoon. I wrote it down to poetic license. But just today, when I looked at mine this morning, they were open and yey they were closed yesterday afternoon. 

So, now I am somewhere between confused and bemused on both matters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:31:10 -0800</pubDate>
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