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	<title>Comments on: Karambolage - The Photography and Art of Arnold Odermatt</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Karambolage - The Photography and Art of Arnold Odermatt</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nordwestfilm.ch/arnold_odermatt_prints.html"&gt;Arnold Odermatt&lt;/a&gt; is a Swiss policeman who worked in Niwalden between 1948 and 1990 and who took &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Odermatt&quot;&gt;curiously fascinating photographs&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Odermatt_image_pg4.html&quot;&gt;police&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Odermatt_image_pg1.html&quot;&gt; work&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jameskelly.com/oder/oder04.html&quot;&gt;car&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jameskelly.com/oder/oder27.html&quot;&gt;crashes&lt;/a&gt;. His prints are now sold in art galleries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He could take quite a time to set up some of his shots, to the sometime annoyance of his colleagues, apparently. Some online galleries of his work: &lt;a href=&quot;http://deutsche-boerse.com/dbag/dispatch/en/kir/gdb_navigation/about_us/30_Art_Collection/40_artists/04_M-R/52_odermatt?horizontal=page0_db_sp_odermatt_arnold&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://projekte.leokoenig.com/exhibition/view/1943&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Arnold%20Odermatt.html&quot;&gt;3&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://arjay.typepad.com/vallejo_nocturno/2011/01/arnold-odermatt.html&quot;&gt;4&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://jameskelly.com/oder/oder.html&quot;&gt;5&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artnet.com/artists/arnold-odermatt/artworks-for-sale&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:09:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stinkycheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902605</link>	
		<description>What an amazing body of work. 

&lt;a href=&apos;http://projekte.leokoenig.com/exhibition/workview/1943/14017&apos;&gt;Ha.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: infini</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902608</link>	
		<description>your links are reversed :) the wiki link is at body of work and the body of work is at the name (unless this was intentional for some reason?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:22:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stinkycheese</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902612</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Arriving at the scene of an accident, Odermatt would take one set of photographs for the insurance or police reports, and then take another for himself. His reasons for doing so are mysterious...&lt;/i&gt;

Not to anyone who&apos;s read J.G. Ballard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:24:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: filthy light thief</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902617</link>	
		<description>Fantastic -- I wonder what his police work and office evaluations were like.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:26:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twoleftfeet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902620</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Arnold Odermatt the Nidwalden Police&lt;/i&gt; [sic] &lt;i&gt;in 1948. He was forced to give up his original career as a bakery and pastry chef on health grounds.&lt;/i&gt;

There are times when I wish Wikipedia had room to say more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:28:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beau jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902624</link>	
		<description>Love it- thanks Carter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:32:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twoleftfeet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902631</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know why, but this reminds me of Seinfeld&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://accessibleseinfeld.com/j5q4/the-police-chalk-outline-guy/&quot;&gt;Chalk Outline Guy&lt;/a&gt; bit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:35:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kirth Gerson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902679</link>	
		<description>Is there an explanation of what happened to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Odermatt_image_pg8.html&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt; auto &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Odermatt_image_pg13.html&quot;&gt;taillights&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:56:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kirth Gerson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tommasz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902698</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Is there an explanation of what happened to these auto taillights?&lt;/em&gt;

Given the lack of damage to the paint around them, it had to be internal heat. But, geez, you&apos;d think the fuse would have blown long before that point.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:07:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxwelton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902699</link>	
		<description>Kirth, perhaps too close to another car which became a carbeque?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxwelton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902701</link>	
		<description>tommasz, I think you could heat auto paint and rubber to over 300 degrees or more without damage, but the plastic is going to melt in there somewhere.

These photos are wonderful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:08:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PhillC</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902708</link>	
		<description>I concerned about the frequency of which Swiss drivers seem to end up in bodies of water.

These photos are indeed wonderful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:12:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902727</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://map.search.ch/oberdorf-nw&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s a map to show the area around Oberdorf&lt;/a&gt;, NW. Truth is, this is one of the most beautiful places on the planet Earth, and about an hour&apos;s train ride from where I sit :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:25:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902743</link>	
		<description>PhillC: I&apos;ve lived here 3 years, and not seen any cars in the lakes. But the scenery is extremely distracting, and the water isn&apos;t salty, so your car won&apos;t corrode. LOL! That&apos;s Vierwaldst&#228;ttersee there (Lake Lucerne), and the combination of mountains and water is breath taking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:31:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: growabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902763</link>	
		<description>Bravo! Evocative work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:44:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Renoroc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902764</link>	
		<description>Since the photos are work product, should not his employer (the Swedish government) get the profits?

Also, where to do we draw the line at using photographs of tragic events as art for profit? I&apos;d feel a little cheated if I got in an accident and someone else profits by taking and selling photos of it. I think it leads to a slippery slope that will soon cater to gorehounds.

How would you feel if someone snapped a pic of a dead kid in a mangled car, made it black and white and became wealthy from it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 08:44:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gofargogo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902845</link>	
		<description>But he isn&apos;t making money off of photos of dead kids. They are photographs of inanimate objects (in terms of car crashes) on public roads.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:27:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bathtub Bobsled</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902867</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not to anyone who&apos;s read J.G. Ballard.
&lt;/i&gt;

Crash or Concrete Island?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:43:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902884</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Oh you&apos;re right infini - I think I needed coffee ...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:50:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: infini</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902888</link>	
		<description>Put in a mod request maybe?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:53:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>infini</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: carter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902901</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s fine; folks are still seeing the photos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:01:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>carter</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lumpenprole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902952</link>	
		<description>These are some brilliant photographs. This guy was a natural.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:39:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rollbiz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902970</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think it leads to a slippery slope that will soon cater to gorehounds.&lt;/em&gt;

He took photos on the job for 42 years, and never catered to the gorehounds.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:49:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Terminal Verbosity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3902974</link>	
		<description>Isn&apos;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amadorgallery.com/Odermatt_image_pg3.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; just a still shot from &lt;em&gt;From Russia With Love&lt;/em&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:50:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: beau jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3903110</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Isn&apos;t this just a still shot from From Russia With Love?&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;m very interested that someone brought this up. Older James Bond movies are exactly what these photos remind me of (I was born in the 80s). I&apos;m guessing it&apos;s the style of clothing, and even more so how the film in previous decades &quot;caught&quot; the colours (I&apos;m making up terms here).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:49:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Prince Lazy I</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3903477</link>	
		<description>These put me immediately in mind of the early novels of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_D%C3%BCrrenmatt&quot;&gt;Friedrich D&#252;rrenmatt&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;em&gt;Der Richter und sein Henker&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Der Verdacht&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Die Panne&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Das Versprechen&lt;/em&gt;.  Great stuff, if you can find them.  (NB: Sean Penn filmed &lt;em&gt;Das Versprechen&lt;/em&gt; as &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0237572/&quot;&gt;The Pledge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:44:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rodgerd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/107083/Karambolage-The-Photography-and-Art-of-Arnold-Odermatt#3904017</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;How would you feel if someone snapped a pic of a dead kid in a mangled car, made it black and white and became wealthy from it?&lt;/i&gt;

You&apos;ve just described the entirely of the newspaper and TV news programming.  One police photographer-cum-artist is a long way down any shit list on that score.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 02:55:12 -0800</pubDate>
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