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September 13, 2011 1:30 PM   Subscribe

Elizabeth Warren will announce her entry into the Massachusetts Senate race tomorrow morning. Warren, who created, but was not confirmed to head, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, is seeking to replace Scott Brown (R), who won Ted Kennedy's seat in 2010. Brown remains rather popular in Massachusetts, and Democrats weren't at all confident any of the current candidates had much chance to knock him off. The hope is that Warren and her pro-consumer bona fides can ride the expected wave of high Democractic voter turnout in the general.

Warren's been a popular subject of Metafilter posts in the past, both for her message and her entertaining way of delivering it.
posted by schoolgirl report (76 comments total) 8 users marked this as a favorite

 
ride the expected wave of high Democractic voter turnout in the general

Yeah, about that...
posted by crayz at 1:32 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


Awesome.

In bad news, GOP is trying to mess up Pennsylvania electoral votes.
posted by Ironmouth at 1:34 PM on September 13, 2011


ride the expected wave of high Democractic voter turnout in the general

Yeah, about that...


Because a proportion of the Dem electorate thinks that by electing Rick Perry, left-wing programs will get enacted.
posted by Ironmouth at 1:35 PM on September 13, 2011 [5 favorites]


I'm honestly not sure that we can knock off Brown this year, but if any candidate can do it...
posted by rollbiz at 1:36 PM on September 13, 2011


I've watched several interviews of EW. If Mass.doesn't elect her, they're goddamned fools.
posted by five fresh fish at 1:38 PM on September 13, 2011


Shit, just make her POTUS please.
posted by Horselover Phattie at 1:38 PM on September 13, 2011 [17 favorites]


Because a proportion of the Dem electorate thinks that by electing Rick Perry, left-wing programs will get enacted.

No dude, because you know what? I'll vote for Obama again in 2012. What I won't do again is tirelessly argue on his behalf to others. What I won't do again is give him my money during the campaign. What I won't do again is volunteer and make GOTV phone calls for him before and during the election, in swing states

I'll pencil in the bubble next to his name on an absentee ballot for metafilter-blue New York, put it in the mail, and then on election night get drunk in a country that's not America. Because fuck
posted by crayz at 1:46 PM on September 13, 2011 [21 favorites]


And yeah sorry for threadshitting. I like Elizabeth Warren. Good luck Massachusetts
posted by crayz at 1:47 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


Obama will carry 40+ states and win in a landslide.
posted by humanfont at 1:48 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


She lives in my neighborhood. This is going to get weird.
posted by atbash at 1:49 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


It's not the Dem electorate that will need to be convinced. They will get out and vote, and they will vote for Elizabeth Warren. Roughly half of the voters in MA are unenrolled, that's the potential trouble.
posted by rollbiz at 1:53 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


She lives in my neighborhood. This is going to get weird.

Just what are you planning?
posted by mrnutty at 1:58 PM on September 13, 2011 [4 favorites]


I'm not sure this is a great idea, actually. Non-insane Republicans can and have won in Mass --- there's been a string of them for governor. Brown's pretty popular, fairly moderate, and has a strong base of support in the suburbs. I'm not sure Warren's association with the administration helps her much, even here. It'll be entitled egghead vs. pickup truck guy. And people get a kick out of Brown having taken Kennedy's seat. The toss-up is whether he's been too non-crazy to get the outside money that poured in for the off-year race. Quite possibly so. In that case Warren may have the war Hedy advantage. But even then.... I dunno, could be wrong. But I don't have a good feeling about it.
posted by Diablevert at 1:58 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


"warchest advantage". Sorry, phone.
posted by Diablevert at 1:59 PM on September 13, 2011


Just what are you planning?

Well, probably to vote for her. I was thinking more along the lines of having a major political campaign sortof based in the area. I realize she'll rent office space someplace (possibly still in Cambridge), but I imagine it'll be annoying-yard-sign central around here.
posted by atbash at 2:00 PM on September 13, 2011


I would vote for her in a flash. What a sensible, intelligent woman.

(She won me over with a one-hour lecture on bankruptcy in which she used - shock - data to show where the greatest cost increase for most household has been: necessities like housing, transportion, childcare and healthcare).
posted by jb at 2:02 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Warren is great, but Brown is popular and well-liked. This won't be easy.
posted by Sticherbeast at 2:02 PM on September 13, 2011


I'm guessing Brown will be helped immensely by the fact that a former Mass governor will be at the top of the ticket on his side driving huge turnout among republicans. Maybe I’m wrong about that - how’s Mitt’s approval rating among Mass voters?
posted by TheShadowKnows at 2:04 PM on September 13, 2011


Elizabeth Warren, I would follow you into battle anywhere.

And I plan on campaigning for Obama like a motherfucker.
posted by angrycat at 2:08 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


Warren is great, but Brown is popular and well-liked. This won't be easy.

So it will be the way political races should be, instead of the "timid moderate versus passionate crazy person" theme we've been seeing lately.
posted by Spacelegoman at 2:10 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Brown has not been "moderate," unless you think idiocy is moderate. The guy voted against a bill to fund a program similar to one he benefited from when young. He filibustered a bill that he was a sponsor of. He's "popular" because the media have not been pointing this stuff out. When the race warms up and the Democrats start going after him seriously, watch his popularity evaporate.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 2:13 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


So it will be the way political races should be, instead of the "timid moderate versus passionate crazy person" theme we've been seeing lately.

Oh, most definitely. I'm looking forward to a knock-down drag-out fight between a great Democrat and a Republican who is at least essentially sane. Unfortunately, I would not bet on Warren for this go-round, but you never know until you try.
posted by Sticherbeast at 2:14 PM on September 13, 2011


Also: Huntsman, the greatest President America will never have. Only GOP candidate that isn't bugfuck crazy and ignorant.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:14 PM on September 13, 2011


Scott Brown is a decent senator, and if he were in a more purple state, I'd be thrilled that he was there in the Senate, as a republican reliably voting with democrats on compromise legislation. I wish we had a dozen more republican senators like him. And I think it would be a good thing to show that you can be a moderate republican that actually makes hard votes and win elections.

However, he's in a deep blue state, which by rights should belong to the Democrats and Elizabeth Warren seems like a fighter and we need more of those on our side...

So I'm torn.
posted by empath at 2:14 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


There's always a chance that Brown will get primaried by a Tea Party candidate since they don't think much of him.
posted by octothorpe at 2:15 PM on September 13, 2011


Too bad, she'd have a lot more power as someone outside of the government than a loathed junior Senator who'll be loathed by much of the opposition. Oops.
posted by fet at 2:15 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


Because a proportion of the Dem electorate thinks that by electing Rick Perry, left-wing programs will get enacted.

Electing Obama didn't get them enacted. I'm thinking maybe a Green or a Socialist might do it.

And don't give me that crap about throwing my vote away. I did that in 2008.
posted by DU at 2:17 PM on September 13, 2011 [7 favorites]


The toss-up is whether he's been too non-crazy to get the outside money that poured in for the off-year race.

"Your support during the election, it meant a ton. It made a difference and I can certainly use it again."
posted by Rhaomi at 2:20 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Electing Obama didn't get them enacted. I'm thinking maybe a Green or a Socialist might do it.

So how many left-wing programs have Green or Socialist presidents enacted? That would be zero.
posted by octothorpe at 2:22 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


It's about amount of effort per chance. Very low on the part of the Democrats. Indeterminate in the case of Greens, since you can't divide by zero.
posted by DU at 2:25 PM on September 13, 2011


> Indeterminate in the case of Greens, since you can't divide by zero.

This is not how politics works.
posted by Horselover Phattie at 2:27 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


If Brown were Senator of a "more purple state," he'd be voting the straight McConnell line. The only reason he ever votes otherwise is to fool people into thinking he's moderate. Seems to be working.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 2:34 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


I don't think he's a moderate. I think he's conservative. But he makes compromise votes.
posted by empath at 2:37 PM on September 13, 2011




I know from riding in the elevator with him that Scott Brown is a big fan of Cheerios.
posted by wintermind at 2:40 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


I only care if a politician agrees with me on the issues. If I need to choose between a politician who agrees with me on the issues and one who disagrees with me on the issues but sometimes compromises with those who agree with me, I will choose the politican who actually agrees with me. As such, I don't really care whether Scott Brown compromises with Democrats or throws beer bottles at them from his pick up truck. I still would not vote for him over Elizabeth Warren.

That is just me though, and I don't live in Massachusettes.
posted by eagles123 at 2:59 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


Yeah, between the whole "Queen Elizabeth" crap and the "Crazy Khazei" twitter campaign a few weeks ago, Brown's just making a reputation for himself as a shit-slinger. Much different than the nice-guy-with-a-truck image he tried to project during the last election.

"She's edjumacated! Burn the witch!" Fuck that.
posted by backseatpilot at 3:03 PM on September 13, 2011


Huntsman, the greatest President America will never have. Only GOP candidate that isn't bugfuck crazy and ignorant.

Huntsman wants to eliminate capital gains taxes and taxes on dividends, effectively eliminating income taxes on the very rich, and "pay for it" by eliminating tax cuts that fall primarily on low and middle income Americans. Huntsman believes the consensus on global warming, but doesn't think anything should be done about it. He's moderate only in a relative sense.
posted by dirigibleman at 3:04 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


Elizabeth Warren is a fascinating figure, and while Scott Brown is not someone I'd vote for, he's at least a basically rational human being in a party I'd otherwise describe as pants-on-head crazy. Why does this thread need to become about Obama?

NYRB wrote a little article about Scott Brown, but it's behind a paywall. The gist of it is that he's handsome.

Also, it's shocking to remember a more innocent time when a Republican was a politician with whom one disagreed, as opposed to a fire-belching toad from the damper regions of Hell. Makes me miss the days of George H. W. Bush, which is saying a lot.

Huntsman wants to eliminate capital gains taxes and taxes on dividends, effectively eliminating income taxes on the very rich, and "pay for it" by eliminating tax cuts that fall primarily on low and middle income Americans. Huntsman believes the consensus on global warming, but doesn't think anything should be done about it. He's moderate only in a relative sense.

Yeah, I want to like Huntsman because he digs both evolution and Captain Beefheart, but his economic policies are nuts. I bet he'd be an alright dinner companion, though.
posted by Sticherbeast at 3:06 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


just to reprise previous scott brown threads, he won his election because the political machine in Boston didn't like the Dem. who won the primary. these people are crooked as fuck all, so I don't have high hopes for a do-gooding Harvard professor picking up the crucial endorsements... but who knows.

the election will come down to whether key constituencies in the boston area click the "turn-out" button or not.
posted by ennui.bz at 3:33 PM on September 13, 2011


he won his election because the political machine in Boston didn't like the Dem. who won the primary

Surely Coakley herself (and her campaign) deserves at least a little of the blame?

Anyway, I fucking love Elizabeth Warren and she makes me really happy to be a Massachusetts voter.
posted by naoko at 3:40 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


Scott Brown won because Coakley was a horrible campaigner (mostly in that she didn't).
posted by haveanicesummer at 3:57 PM on September 13, 2011


Brown is popular and well-liked.

He is? I have not met these people. Then again, I live in Capuano's district.

But yeah, Coakley gave away that election. It was awful.
posted by maryr at 4:15 PM on September 13, 2011


What's most interesting to me about Warren running is just what sort of campaign she runs if she gets past the primary: if she runs on holding Wall Street accountable for their crimes and abuses I think it has the possibility of really changing the politics of the 2012 election and make it harder for Obama to split the difference wrt Wall Street issues.
posted by ennui.bz at 4:21 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


angrycat: "Elizabeth Warren, I would follow you into battle anywhere."

Same here -- I'll be right there next to you. This woman is really something exceptional.
posted by theredpen at 4:23 PM on September 13, 2011 [2 favorites]


This could be interesting, but potentially suck. Unlike most candidates Warren will have strong anti-wallstreet credentials. That could be pretty meaningful, especially when compared to, for example the Democrat who ran against Rick Scott who had been the operations manager for Bank of America in Florida

Still though, I'm not sure that any individual can be that effective in the senate. And beyond her views on the banks I have no idea what any of her other politics are.
posted by delmoi at 5:33 PM on September 13, 2011


he won his election because the political machine in Boston didn't like the Dem. who won the primary

What? No. Coakley sleep-walked her way to defeat, dissing Red Sox Nation along the way. For god's sake, if you don't know anything about baseball, don't talk about baseball.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 5:43 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Yeah, it was pretty much missing hands and shaking babies.
posted by maryr at 5:56 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


There's always a chance that Brown will get primaried by a Tea Party candidate since they don't think much of him.

Uh yeah, Massachusetts is a competitive state in some ways, but we don't ever roll like that. Tea Party is an irrelevant force in Mass.
posted by threeants at 6:13 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound rude. Just factual.
posted by threeants at 6:14 PM on September 13, 2011


Fuck yeah!
posted by kprincehouse at 6:26 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


I ♥ Elizabeth Warren

If she asked me to marry her I would.
posted by BuffaloChickenWing at 6:29 PM on September 13, 2011


And here in Massachusetts, you can! Even if she is your cousin!
posted by maryr at 8:12 PM on September 13, 2011


Elizabeth Warren is awesome and voting for her is probably worth moving back to MA. But I'm not going to do that, so y'all have to help me out here a bit.
posted by Errant at 8:17 PM on September 13, 2011


Because a proportion of the Dem electorate thinks that by electing Rick Perry, left-wing programs will get enacted.

When will you stop with this bullshit?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:35 PM on September 13, 2011 [6 favorites]


Until someone repeals Duverger's law, it's Democrats vs. Republicans for President, and that's mathematically the only game in town. Want a realistic third party? So do I -- let's replace first-past-the-post voting with more flexible instant runoff voting or approval voting. But until we can manage to pull off that massive overhaul, please, PLEASE, do us all a favor and work within the mathematically-flawed system, okay? THE SUPREME COURT DEPENDS ON IT.
posted by scrowdid at 9:28 PM on September 13, 2011 [3 favorites]


The hope is that Warren and her pro-consumer bona fides can ride the expected wave of high Democractic voter turnout in the general.

Well, it worked for President Nader.
posted by Jahaza at 9:31 PM on September 13, 2011


Elizabeth Warren 2016!
posted by Mikey-San at 10:42 PM on September 13, 2011 [1 favorite]


Elizabeth Warren is the only political candidate I have ever considered giving money to. Beyond that, how do I sign up to canvas for her or whatever?
posted by Aizkolari at 2:59 AM on September 14, 2011


Here is her site. I signed up and donated. Look at that page! It actually says "A champion for the middle class" in huge type. Fantastic.
posted by theredpen at 5:08 AM on September 14, 2011


Well, it worked for President Nader.

President Nader wasn't a Democrat.
posted by rollbiz at 7:36 AM on September 14, 2011


"A champion for the middle class"

I guess that's better than being a champion for the wealthy and powerful, but we need more champions for the people at the bottom.
posted by empath at 9:10 AM on September 14, 2011 [1 favorite]


I ♥ Elizabeth Warren

If she asked me to marry her I would.


Ditto! And I could, too, in Massachusetts! Love her.
posted by bitter-girl.com at 11:05 AM on September 14, 2011


I'm tempted to move back to Massachusetts just to vote for her (and to help with her campaign). She's wonderful.
posted by dilettanti at 2:46 PM on September 14, 2011


A video of her speech in 2008 on The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class

She really is fantastic, but I'm worried that Congress is such a fundamentally broken institution that this is a waste of her time. I'd rather see her focus on educating the public and returning some sanity to the national discussion. Also, while she's at it, she should buy me a pony.
posted by heathkit at 4:10 PM on September 14, 2011






Warren takes lead on Brown
The polling company was within one point in its poll on the outcome of the special election that put Brown in the Senate.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 6:53 AM on September 23, 2011 [1 favorite]


Wow. I didn't expect this kind of lead to show up this early. Is there hope for humanity, or, if not humanity, then Massachusetts?
posted by Sticherbeast at 7:08 AM on September 23, 2011


Massachusetts GOP Urges Harvard Not To Pay Elizabeth Warren’s Salary

Also, that's an extremely stupid and panicky "demand".
posted by Sticherbeast at 7:08 AM on September 23, 2011








Warren will be the first female president. I'm calling it now.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 4:10 PM on October 9, 2011


I sure hope so. But the timing's dicey. Soonest she could run would be 2016, either succeeding Obama or challenging a Republican incumbent, and she'd be 67 years old on Election Day (older than McCain was in '08).

Luckily for her the field looks pretty clear -- I'm not aware of any particularly exciting Democratic candidates apart from maybe Andrew Cuomo.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:15 PM on October 9, 2011


Scratch that -- she'd be five years younger than McCain. Delaying to the next election in 2020 would make her nearly the same age, though.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:20 PM on October 9, 2011


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