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	<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:22:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;Bundestrojaner&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://ccc.de/en/updates/2011/staatstrojaner"&gt;Chaos Computer Club analyzes government malware&lt;/a&gt; The Chaos Computer Club got their hands on something they think is the fabled &quot;Bundestrojaner&quot; &#8211; the software the German government is using for computer surveillance. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002249.html&quot;&gt;F-Secure announced they&apos;ll add that software to their list of malware.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:09:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dominik</dc:creator>		<category>CCC</category>		<category>Germany</category>		<category>computersurveillance</category>		<category>Bundestrojaner</category>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963811</link>	
		<description>This is a press release from an alternate future where Germany never reunited and it&apos;s about &lt;i&gt;East&lt;/i&gt; Germany, right? Because that&apos;s some Stasi-level shit right there. Particularly the part where it&apos;s so poorly executed that you&apos;re left wondering if it was meant to be an earnest tool for spying, or something left to be discovered for the sake of making the people behind it look ruthless and menacing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:22:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dominik</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963815</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s rather amusing to follow the folks from the CCC and the Pirate Party on Twitter tonight. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccc.de/system/uploads/76/original/staatstrojaner-report23.pdf&quot;&gt;Their whole paper (in German) is here&lt;/a&gt; for those who are interested.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:29:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dominik</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963819</link>	
		<description>Between this and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  I&apos;m wondering when I&apos;m going to get my pair of red sunglasses.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:34:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Whelk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mrzarquon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963821</link>	
		<description>Get me one with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Transmetropolitan_2.jpg&quot;&gt;green lens and a red one&lt;/a&gt;, Whelk.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:37:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mrzarquon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: finite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963822</link>	
		<description>I &#9829; the CCC</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:38:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>finite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963830</link>	
		<description>Between this and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;

YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO COMPLY</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:49:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jfuller</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963881</link>	
		<description>Pot, meet kettle.  Kettle, meet Adolf.

Summary:&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/22/google_streetview_logs_wlans/&quot;&gt;How dare you record our citizens&apos; public, unencrypted wireless SSIDs&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/technology/19google.html&quot;&gt;We demand you hand over the information we earlier scolded you for having.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hey, how&apos;d you do that, anyway?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:47:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Civil_Disobedient</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: twirlip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963924</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is a press release from an alternate future where Germany never reunited and it&apos;s about &lt;/i&gt;East&lt;i&gt; Germany, right? Because that&apos;s some Stasi-level shit right there.&lt;/i&gt;

This is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-security30oct30,0,3975040.story&quot;&gt;Stasi&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi_2.0&quot;&gt;2.0&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:44:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>twirlip</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Twang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963960</link>	
		<description>Man ... talk about helicopter parents.

Imagine what they&apos;d know if they could attach something to us so they&apos;d always know where we are.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:17:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Twang</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jackspace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963972</link>	
		<description>OK, so the question:  WHY didn&apos;t the anti-virus software catch this?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:28:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jackspace</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: event</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3963981</link>	
		<description>Now that anti-virus makers know about it, they will catch it.  It&apos;s a rare (and stupid) piece of new malware these days that gets caught out-of-the-box by any anti-virus software.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:34:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>event</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: formless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3964252</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Imagine what they&apos;d know if they could attach something to us so they&apos;d always know where we are.&lt;/em&gt;

You&apos;re joking right?  My sarcasm meter is broken?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/1998/01/9502&quot;&gt;Information about the required CALEA and E911 requirements that turn all mobile phones into tracking devices&lt;/a&gt;.

From over a DECADE ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:18:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>formless</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Herr Fahrstuhl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3964380</link>	
		<description>This is especially troubling since the German equivalent of the Supreme Court explicitly prohibited so-called &quot;Online-Durchsuchungen&quot; (online search warrents), and restricted government malware to wiretapping functionality. Also, I am somewhat surprised by the fact that the command-and-control server (207.158.22.134) is located outside of German jurisdiction.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:54:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Herr Fahrstuhl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3968513</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/german-gov-spyware/&quot;&gt;German Minister Wants Investigation of Bavarian Authorities&apos; Use of Spyware&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:12:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>homunculus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeffburdges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3970539</link>	
		<description>It appears the  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1667873.php/German-spy-software-scandal-focuses-on-Bavaria&quot;&gt;Bavarian&lt;/a&gt; police have used at least one customs check to install the installed the &apos;state trojan&apos; on a laptop (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Staatstrojaner-Eine-Spionagesoftware-unter-anderem-aus-Bayern-1358091.html&quot;&gt;de&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2FStaatstrojaner-Eine-Spionagesoftware-unter-anderem-aus-Bayern-1358091.html&quot;&gt;en&lt;/a&gt;).

A Bavarian Interior Minister&apos;s press release confesses to the spyware and notes the CCC might not have analyzed the latest version (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.innenministerium.bayern.de/presse/archiv/2011/385.php&quot;&gt;de&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=www.innenministerium.bayern.de%2Fpresse%2Farchiv%2F2011%2F385.php&quot;&gt;en&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:35:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffburdges</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeffburdges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3974267</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3102365&quot;&gt;The newspaper S&#252;ddeutsche Zeitung reports all the Bavarian government&apos;s usages of the state trojan were unlawful and in violation of its initial intention to only be used against serious crime and threats of terrorism.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffburdges</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeffburdges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#3983101</link>	
		<description>German government&apos;s trojan eavesdrops on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itworld.com/security/214797/german-federal-trojan-eavesdrops-15-applications-experts-find&quot;&gt;fifteen&lt;/a&gt; different &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193167/Federal_Trojan_s_got_a_Big_Brother&quot;&gt;applications&lt;/a&gt;, more than originally thought.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:33:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffburdges</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#4002788</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://boingboing.net/2011/10/30/fresh-german-police-malware-uncovered-everything-the-police-said-in-defense-to-date-revealed-as-lies.html&quot;&gt;Fresh German police-malware uncovered; everything the police said in defense to date revealed as lies&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:14:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>homunculus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jeffburdges</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/108184/Bundestrojaner#4004045</link>	
		<description>Relevant &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2011/analysiert-aktueller-staatstrojaner&quot;&gt;CCC&apos;s Press Release&lt;/a&gt;.

I&apos;d assume virus scanners mostly detect these by now, but presumably the police can easily change it&apos;s signature.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:53:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffburdges</dc:creator>
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