No more 9 to 5? Really?
January 5, 2012 9:10 AM Subscribe
The Beginning of the End of the 9-to-5 Workday? The traditional eight-hour workday may soon be the exception rather than the rule.
Agree? Disagree?
This post was deleted for the following reason: This is really not much of an article and the "Agree? Disagree?" framing is not something that we do here. -- restless_nomad
Is there an internet law named for the inevitability that the answer to all news articles ending with a question mark is "no"?
Also: 1. Gen Y workers won’t accept jobs where they can’t access Facebook.
From now on, before reading any article about Gen Y or Millenials, I will search the page for "Facebook" and "Twitter," and disregard the article if either are found in the text.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:15 AM on January 5, 2012 [6 favorites]
Also: 1. Gen Y workers won’t accept jobs where they can’t access Facebook.
From now on, before reading any article about Gen Y or Millenials, I will search the page for "Facebook" and "Twitter," and disregard the article if either are found in the text.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:15 AM on January 5, 2012 [6 favorites]
Well, in the UK we just got a report that the average worker does around 7 hours of unpaid overtime per week, so I'd say 9-5 is somewhat wishful thinking at this point - and has it really existed in America since the 50s? Sure, the internet is making telecommuting easier, but the recession means employers have no reason to concede to the desires of their workers and implement it.
posted by Drexen at 9:16 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by Drexen at 9:16 AM on January 5, 2012
Agree? Disagree?
Please don't create posts framed as fight. Just let the information and link stand as it is, thanks.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:17 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Please don't create posts framed as fight. Just let the information and link stand as it is, thanks.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 9:17 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
The only time I have an 8 hour workday is when it's the holidays and everyone I support is away on vacation... so, the week between Christmas and New Year's Day, basically. The rest of the year, I work 9 to 10 hours a day during the week. And that's not counting the time I spend answering emails from home.
Supporting 240+ people and having a required 24-hour response time to all emails/IMs/phone calls is kind of killing me. Haven't had a restful night of sleep in months. Haven't had a vacation in... fifteen years, holy shit. No wonder I'm crabby.
posted by palomar at 9:18 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Supporting 240+ people and having a required 24-hour response time to all emails/IMs/phone calls is kind of killing me. Haven't had a restful night of sleep in months. Haven't had a vacation in... fifteen years, holy shit. No wonder I'm crabby.
posted by palomar at 9:18 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Gen Y workers won’t accept jobs where they can’t access Facebook.
Because people don't have cell phones with access to the internets.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 9:18 AM on January 5, 2012
Because people don't have cell phones with access to the internets.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 9:18 AM on January 5, 2012
I think I'm pretty sure that there a lot of Gen Y would-be workers out there that will accept any job, whether it has facebook access or not.
posted by dinty_moore at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by dinty_moore at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Gen Y-ers value workplace flexibility over more money.
Actually, I value insurance over both of those. We're going to be paying our mortgage off soon and it'd be cool to cut my hours a little while still ending up with more money every month. Except we need the insurance.
posted by DU at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
Actually, I value insurance over both of those. We're going to be paying our mortgage off soon and it'd be cool to cut my hours a little while still ending up with more money every month. Except we need the insurance.
posted by DU at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
Is there an internet law named for the inevitability that the answer to all news articles ending with a question mark is "no"?
I like how The Awl does it. 'Is this the world's smallest egg? Sure, why the hell not.'
posted by shakespeherian at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
I like how The Awl does it. 'Is this the world's smallest egg? Sure, why the hell not.'
posted by shakespeherian at 9:19 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't want to spoil it for Gen Y but they're probably going to have to do a lot of stuff they don't like for money in their lives.
posted by Hoopo at 9:20 AM on January 5, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by Hoopo at 9:20 AM on January 5, 2012 [4 favorites]
Please don't create posts framed as fight.
I was just asking - forgot how polarizing that question is. Oops.
posted by Anima Mundi at 9:20 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
I was just asking - forgot how polarizing that question is. Oops.
posted by Anima Mundi at 9:20 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Most of it sexual.
posted by shakespeherian at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by shakespeherian at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012
An eight hour workday hasn't been 9-5 since the seventies. Who gets paid lunch anymore?
posted by ceribus peribus at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by ceribus peribus at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012 [3 favorites]
Where the hell has there been a 9-5 work week in the last few decades? Time has just noticed this?
posted by octothorpe at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by octothorpe at 9:21 AM on January 5, 2012
Supporting 240+ people and having a required 24-hour response time to all emails/IMs/phone calls is kind of killing me. Haven't had a restful night of sleep in months. Haven't had a vacation in... fifteen years, holy shit. No wonder I'm crabby.
And yet here we are on Metafilter. I think the story here is we have more little blips of free time, but otherwise there is no work-life balance, just work extending its tendrils to every hour of the day. I love working from home on flex time sometimes. It's nice to be able to go to the grocery store when it's not crowded or easily get a doc appt because you can go at 11 AM, but I also know I'm probably going to be answering emails in bed at 11PM.
posted by melissam at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
And yet here we are on Metafilter. I think the story here is we have more little blips of free time, but otherwise there is no work-life balance, just work extending its tendrils to every hour of the day. I love working from home on flex time sometimes. It's nice to be able to go to the grocery store when it's not crowded or easily get a doc appt because you can go at 11 AM, but I also know I'm probably going to be answering emails in bed at 11PM.
posted by melissam at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
Schawbel is the managing partner of Millennial Branding LLC, a full-service personal-branding agency.
I can't believe I missed the punchline the first time through.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
I can't believe I missed the punchline the first time through.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
Anima Mundi: “Agree? Disagree?”
It's not my place to say, really.
posted by koeselitz at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012
It's not my place to say, really.
posted by koeselitz at 9:22 AM on January 5, 2012
We can all work 34 hour/week "part time" jobs with no benefits, no PTO, and employers' ability to reduce our hours (to, say, zero) at any time, wheeee!
posted by 2bucksplus at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by 2bucksplus at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
You guys have to work 8 hours a day? That sucks.
posted by Infinite Jest at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by Infinite Jest at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
You bastards have jobs?
posted by resurrexit at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by resurrexit at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
So it's been, what, a full decade that this article has been around? Computers and telecommuting are going to change the workday. Cities are going to be able to save so many tax dollars from getting to keep the lights off because employees are working from home. Gen Y (do we really still call them Gen Y? Or is it Millennials now?) would rather have flexible work hours than more money (has anybody considered that it's because they're not paying for their kids' braces yet?).
I think this is a great idea. And while technology was supposed to free me up to work from home and do my work whenever, the fact is that because the economy is in the toilet, I work at the office from 9-5 M-F and I'm also on call from home because of my fancy smartphone. So if anything, I'm working more. Thanks technology!
posted by nushustu at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
I think this is a great idea. And while technology was supposed to free me up to work from home and do my work whenever, the fact is that because the economy is in the toilet, I work at the office from 9-5 M-F and I'm also on call from home because of my fancy smartphone. So if anything, I'm working more. Thanks technology!
posted by nushustu at 9:23 AM on January 5, 2012
I can't believe I missed the punchline the first time through.
Aw, you left out the best bit: "He is the author of Me 2.0: 4 Steps to Building Your Future."
posted by Infinite Jest at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
Aw, you left out the best bit: "He is the author of Me 2.0: 4 Steps to Building Your Future."
posted by Infinite Jest at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
agree
I technically work 11-7 but I usually "work" until i get tired and go to sleep then wake up and do it all again.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
I technically work 11-7 but I usually "work" until i get tired and go to sleep then wake up and do it all again.
posted by Ad hominem at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
An eight hour workday hasn't been 9-5 since the seventies. Who gets paid lunch anymore?
Errr....me? I come in at 7, leave at 3 and mark down 8 hours for the day.
posted by DU at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
Errr....me? I come in at 7, leave at 3 and mark down 8 hours for the day.
posted by DU at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
I can't believe Time Magazine still exists. Everything I read there is either a lazy listicle like this one, sucks, or both.
posted by Aizkolari at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by Aizkolari at 9:24 AM on January 5, 2012
I don't think I've ever had a job with 9-5 hours. 8-5 with an hour of unpaid lunch, and an expectation of working till 6+ mostly.
Now I work 6:30a to 3:30p, unless I feel like working some other configuration for a particular day.
posted by nomisxid at 9:27 AM on January 5, 2012
Now I work 6:30a to 3:30p, unless I feel like working some other configuration for a particular day.
posted by nomisxid at 9:27 AM on January 5, 2012
Wow, love the stock photo of ye olde analog punch-clocke. And that enterprising young woman has arrived 15 minutes early for her shift, which will surely garner recognition from those all-powerful beings who mandate the length of our workdays.
posted by obscurator at 9:27 AM on January 5, 2012
posted by obscurator at 9:27 AM on January 5, 2012
No one is ever out of touch or off the clock. When workers go home, they’re still working because who they are personally and professionally have become one and the same.
The eye of Sauron never sleeps.
posted by No Robots at 9:28 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
The eye of Sauron never sleeps.
posted by No Robots at 9:28 AM on January 5, 2012 [1 favorite]
So it's been, what, a full decade that this article has been around?
No, 2 decades
posted by Hoopo at 9:28 AM on January 5, 2012
No, 2 decades
posted by Hoopo at 9:28 AM on January 5, 2012
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