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January 23, 2012 7:58 AM   Subscribe

Iza Privezenceva is a Russian girl who is astonishingly fast with a recurve bow.
posted by quin (120 comments total) 27 users marked this as a favorite

 
I used to sleep in Russian gyms like you, then I took an arrow to the blanket.
posted by Admiral Haddock at 8:01 AM on January 23, 2012 [19 favorites]


She also gets a 1% additional crit ranged chance when the bow is equipped.
posted by Fizz at 8:01 AM on January 23, 2012 [6 favorites]


But where's the soul?
posted by thelonius at 8:01 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


Eyes always on the target. I appreciate the practice that went into this.
posted by michaelh at 8:02 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Pfft, that's not that impressive. All you need is a DEX over 13 and the Point Blank Shot feat. Considering the latter can be a fighter bonus feat and she's human, she may have been able to do that since level 1. You could've saved the FPP for when she got Manyshot at least.

This is seriously fucking cool.
posted by griphus at 8:02 AM on January 23, 2012 [8 favorites]


Real life and Skyrim just converged in a way that made my brain uncomfortable, but happy.
posted by MrVisible at 8:03 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


As an actual ex-archer this is making me go all gooey inside.
posted by The Whelk at 8:03 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Joan of Arc, Russkii style!
posted by spicynuts at 8:03 AM on January 23, 2012


griphus, I'm looking at this and thinking DEX 16 or higher, probably with a potion of Cat's Grace in addition, plus haste, for a total of something like 14/14/9 (assuming that high a level and the strongest Rogue or Ranger BAB progression, of course)

Still, quite impressive.
posted by Navelgazer at 8:04 AM on January 23, 2012


It looks like she's damn accurate, too. If I'm understanding what I'm seeing correctly, she's torn a hole about the size of a man's fist in the blanket she's shooting at.

Boy, I really wouldn't want to argue with that girl.
posted by Malor at 8:06 AM on January 23, 2012


Something something Orlando Bloom something.
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:06 AM on January 23, 2012 [8 favorites]


Thanks. I just sent this to my GURPS group with the note "This is what Fast-Draw: Arrow looks like."
posted by fings at 8:07 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


FelliniBlank - I'm looking for the Orlando-Bloom-meets-Weasley-Family joke and just not finding it.
posted by Navelgazer at 8:08 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


In the first cut, she emptied her quiver of 8 arrows in 12 seconds (or 2 AD&D segments). That's 4 shots per segment. I don't think there's a feat for shooting more than 2 arrows per segment.
posted by Jpfed at 8:09 AM on January 23, 2012 [15 favorites]


I love all the nerding out on this. Just saying. Please carry on.
posted by MrBobaFett at 8:09 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


4 SHOTS PER SEGMENT. Is this how people who know sports feel watching the Olympics or something? Like I can't imagine how you'd even do that with human response time and stuff.
posted by The Whelk at 8:10 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


She is more than welcome to join my zombie apocalypse team.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 8:11 AM on January 23, 2012 [20 favorites]


She is pulling the string from the wrong side. No wonder she's so fast - she doesn't need to cross her hand over. On the other hand, I bet that wrecks her aim.
posted by rebent at 8:11 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Jpfed: multishot + manyshot.
posted by Navelgazer at 8:11 AM on January 23, 2012


I was totally unimpressed at first, but Malor pointed out that apparently she's got reasonably good accuracy. I used to shoot when I was but a child, and to me the raw SPEED is nothing I doubt I could manage myself if I tried. Managing to hit the broad side of a barn while doing it, though...

Needs another video with standard paper targets so I can SEE where the hell those arrows are going!
posted by Nutri-Matic Drinks Synthesizer at 8:11 AM on January 23, 2012 [5 favorites]


I think I've watched too many firearm videos, because all I could think of was, "Well, is she hitting the damn target or not?"
posted by Edogy at 8:11 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


...for a total of something like 14/14/9

Hm, I just counted and she's getting off four shots every six seconds, which means she's doing four attacks a round. However, she's also aiming at an unmoving target the size of a cow.

I don't think there's a feat for shooting more than 2 arrows per segment.

In 3.5 there's Rapid Shot which lets you get an extra attack per round (which is still six seconds long.) So either at level six and hasted or at level 11 she'd be able to get four arrows off per round.
posted by griphus at 8:12 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


Reminds me of the Longbow episode of Weapons that Made Britain where the host is talking about the English archers cutting down the French knights, I think at Crécy, with their vastly superior rate of fire.
posted by Dasein at 8:13 AM on January 23, 2012


How the fuck is she hiding those pointy ears under that fetching chin-length hair?
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 8:15 AM on January 23, 2012 [8 favorites]




During the front-half of the video I thought, "Yeah, this is nice, but I bet her hits are all over the place."

Then I saw the latter half where they showed her target, and noticed the hole in the middle blanket and how most (if not all) her shots hit that area. While moving.

So, unconventional draw or not, I'm still impressed.
posted by CancerMan at 8:15 AM on January 23, 2012


I wish I could get a better sense of her accuracy. BLANKIES YOU ARE SO FRUSTRATING.
posted by elizardbits at 8:15 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


...and noticed the hole in the middle blanket...

I did not and am now considerably more impressed than the "a whole lot" that I started with.
posted by griphus at 8:16 AM on January 23, 2012


and this one shows her accuracy.

ok, yes, i would be happy to rebuild civilization with her postapocalypse.
posted by elizardbits at 8:17 AM on January 23, 2012 [11 favorites]


Reminds me of the Longbow episode of Weapons that Made Britain where the host is talking about the English archers cutting down the French knights, I think at Crécy, with their vastly superior rate of fire.

Another facet to this was the class issue. Bowmen, compared to Knights, are cheap, more quickly and easily trained, and can shoot from a distance, safety hidden. Warren Ellis' Crecy is an underrated book (possibly cause it's drawn ...not well.)
posted by The Whelk at 8:17 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


How the fuck is she hiding those pointy ears under that fetching chin-length hair?

The background radiation from Chernobyl caused the regressive round ears.
posted by rough ashlar at 8:18 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


I think I had someone like this in mind when I took a couple semesters of Russian in college.
posted by edguardo at 8:18 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


+5 bonus points for the title.
posted by Phire at 8:21 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Nobody's mentioned Katniss Everdeen yet??
posted by odinsdream at 8:22 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


except the title... i guess...
posted by odinsdream at 8:23 AM on January 23, 2012 [6 favorites]


i heard a sad trombone while reading that comment
posted by elizardbits at 8:25 AM on January 23, 2012 [11 favorites]


Nobody's mentioned Katniss Everdeen yet??

Nobody's mentioned Legolas yet? Let her keep up this rate of fire while surfing a shield down a stone staircase and then we will talk.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 8:25 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


You should see her ford a river.
posted by Artw at 8:26 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


> You should see her ford a river.

I'm pretty sure that with a bit of training you can actually cross a river by stepping on her arrows as she shoots them across.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:28 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


How is she with a hula hoop? Yah, ok, that is a complete non sequitur but I happened to see videos of both of these highly competent, very cute woman (the hula woman is a mother of two, I can't bring myself to say girl) doing interesting things, and that makes it a good day, and I want to share the joy. Can't kill zombies with a hula so well, though.
posted by Bovine Love at 8:32 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


That actually looks like a hanging target in the middle, not a hole. (Every time you hear a clack rather than a thud, that's the sound of a critical hit.) To see the clustering of the shots, watch where the ripple on the blanket is centered on each hit.
posted by NMcCoy at 8:33 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


Yeah, she's hitting all over the place although a fair amount are close to being on target. Still, she'd be pretty effective in a medieval battle.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:35 AM on January 23, 2012


I wouldn't call it 'astonishingly' fast, but she's really awesome, nevertheless. Apparently, the historical bar for fast archery is quite demanding
posted by lemuring at 8:36 AM on January 23, 2012 [5 favorites]


Reminds me of the Longbow episode of Weapons that Made Britain where the host is talking about the English archers cutting down the French knights, I think at Crécy, with their vastly superior rate of fire

It's likely she could fire this bow from horseback, which is one up on the longbow.
posted by Artw at 8:37 AM on January 23, 2012


Bowmen, compared to Knights, are cheap, more quickly and easily trained, and can shoot from a distance, safety hidden.

Hmm. Depends on the bowmen. British longbowmen were not your typical archers - they were highly trained and exceptionally disciplined. For the most part, archers were largely considered cheap and expendable. Their only purpose was to put as many arrows into massed infantry or cavalry as they could, and then run away when the guys with swords and spears got close. They weren't trained to aim, they just pointed the arrow as high up as their officers told them to, pointed in the general direction of the enemy, and let fly when told, getting another arrow ready as soon as they could. This was mostly minor harassment at best, and only really useful for spooking horses or taking out unarmored rabble.

The original longbowmen were poachers, and needed a weapon their armored and armed gamekeeper enemies would respect. Well, they got that respect, and then some.

The longbowmen who helped conquer France had better bows than most other archers, and were legally obligated to train with them them since childhood. The archers at Crecy could pick their target, send an armor-peircing arrow into them from across the battlefield, and be ready with a follow-up shot before the knight knew what happened.

That said, I'm pleased as punch the old fantasy trope of the "maiden archer" is undergoing a resurgence in popular culture. Big, burly warrior with a sword the size of a sofa? Meet an arrow to the knee, courtesy of a brave young woman who couldn't even lift that sword, but could take out five more men just like him...
posted by Slap*Happy at 8:37 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


Is her accuracy really that good? She seems to be shooting across a basketball or netball court, which is roughly 15m wide, and so not that great a distance. I don't see any evidence that her arrows are better than, say, within a 50cm circle, sometimes hitting a hanging target at the center, but sometimes way off.

I would also argue against her effectiveness, as to what strength is she drawing that bow? Would it still hit with anything like reasonable force at 100m or beyond?
posted by Jehan at 8:38 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


British longbowmen were not your typical archers

At the battle of Crécy? English and Welsh.
posted by Jehan at 8:40 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


According to this, you're not really meant to go beyond 38m with that sort of bow.
posted by griphus at 8:42 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


I must say, one thing that The Hunger Games books makes very clear is how Goddamned Cool it'd be to be a chick with awesome archery powers and anger.
posted by angrycat at 8:42 AM on January 23, 2012


I must say, one thing that The Hunger Games books makes very clear is how Goddamned Cool it'd be to be a chick with awesome archery powers and anger.

Whenever I go on a date with a woman, I just assume she already has these attributes.
posted by Fizz at 8:44 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


Pretty cool technique. Looked through all the videos and still no clear evidence of accuracy, but the execution of the technique is pretty cool.
posted by cashman at 8:45 AM on January 23, 2012


According to this, you're not really meant to go beyond 38m with that sort of bow.

Then she's not getting in my army until she gets a better bow.
posted by Jehan at 8:46 AM on January 23, 2012


What kind of RPG is this when a blanket is The Boss?
posted by stormpooper at 8:47 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


muppet babies and the battle of bedtime
posted by elizardbits at 8:49 AM on January 23, 2012 [16 favorites]


Dungeons & Only Child
posted by griphus at 8:49 AM on January 23, 2012 [17 favorites]


Okay, well I can take up swordplay. We just need a rogue and a mage and we're set.
posted by ODiV at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2012


As good a place as any to ask (other than, uh, ask.mefi I guess): does anyone have a recommendation for a basic fiberglass longbow? Or wood, for that matter. When I was in scouts as a wee lad, these were ubiquitous in sporting good stores, but I haven't seen one for years, and the local archery shops I've called pretty much only carry compounds. Online shopping has the selection but since I haven't pulled a bow in years I don't know what to look for/what brands to trust.
posted by curious nu at 8:50 AM on January 23, 2012


Yeah, as Jehan implies the draw weight on that bow looks negligible and her accuracy isn't very good for that range. Yeah it's moderately fast, but it's moderately fast because she wouldn't be able to penetrate much of anything if she hit it in the first place.

Her arrows are bouncing off a blanket or something. Bouncing! Off a blanket!
posted by Justinian at 8:51 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


We just need a rogue and a mage and we're set.

Don't forget the enormous chest of Cure Medium Wounds potions cleric.
posted by griphus at 8:52 AM on January 23, 2012


Her arrows are bouncing off a blanket or something. Bouncing! Off a blanket!

Are they even sharp-tipped?

Then she's not getting in my army until she gets a better bow.

38m = ~114ft, which supposedly gives you ~8.14 seconds to shoot arrows at someone, and if you're trained to the level of this guy, that's 5.42 arrows before you could even get cut.

It's not munchkiny if its real life.
posted by edguardo at 8:52 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


I thought she was using soft-tipped or rounded arrows, hence the non-stickiness to the blanket. Maybe someone else can confirm.
posted by CancerMan at 8:52 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Lajos Kassai has been researching and training in the horse archery of the ancient Huns for years.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 8:53 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


I think they are bouncing because she's using some kind of blunt tip. I see a flash of black. Back in my archery days, the blunts were black rubber. Plus I think the blankets are just to stop the arrows from slamming into the brick wall. It doesn't look like there's anything that could take a sharp arrow.
posted by hot_monster at 8:53 AM on January 23, 2012


> As good a place as any to ask (other than, uh, ask.mefi I guess): does anyone have a recommendation for a basic fiberglass longbow? Or wood, for that matter.

Skip all the sissy stuff and go straight for the Mongol bow.
posted by Burhanistan at 8:54 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Um, you guys are missing a very important point. Sure, it's four attacks per round, but she's also moving while attacking.

Shot on the run has a bunch of requirements (Dex 13, Dodge, Mobility, Point Blank Shot, base attack bonus +4). Add that to the number of attacks, and this is some seriously highlevel stuff we're talking about.
posted by oddman at 8:54 AM on January 23, 2012 [5 favorites]


I personally would not want to get hit with one of the blunt tipped arrows at that range. Certainly not ten of them coming that quickly in succession.
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 9:00 AM on January 23, 2012


If she can do that from horseback, I know who her ancestors were...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mounted_archery
posted by bert2368 at 9:01 AM on January 23, 2012


and if you're trained to the level of this guy, that's 5.42 arrows before you could even get cut.

Eh, same problem as with the OP video; the draw weight appears tiny.

Show me someone firing rapidly with a 100lb bow! That'd be awesome.
posted by Justinian at 9:02 AM on January 23, 2012


Orlando Bloom said he got so he could really fire them off fast but his accuracy was crap when he'd do that.
posted by Ber at 9:02 AM on January 23, 2012


Pirate....monkey...
Yes. I think that's a good argument for blunt tipped arrows. Anything else would be painfully lethal at that range. Especially in a gym.
posted by hot_monster at 9:02 AM on January 23, 2012


Pft, I bet she's never even killed anyone.
posted by ODiV at 9:03 AM on January 23, 2012


She's going to get nicknamed Legolass.
posted by BrotherCaine at 9:05 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Redesigning my blanket fort to include more kevlar sofa cushions right now.
posted by orme at 9:07 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]




I kept wanting her to aim further left; I pretty strongly disliked Merriweather Post Pavilion and it would have been cathartic.
posted by One Second Before Awakening at 9:12 AM on January 23, 2012


To all the nay-sayers... go ahead and stand where her target is and say that it's not an impressive feat. If you're not bleeding after she dumps one quiver of arrows at you in fifteen seconds, I'll accept your statement as possibly correct.
posted by seanmpuckett at 9:16 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


Metafilter: If you're not bleeding after she dumps one quiver of arrows at you in fifteen seconds, I'll accept your statement as possibly correct.
posted by yoink at 9:19 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


and if you're trained to the level of this guy

Then you have 2-3 shots to do the job as you aren't pulling from a quiver. In fact I'm not sure where he's pulling from at all.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:20 AM on January 23, 2012


    "How is she with a hula hoop yt? Yah, ok, that is a complete non sequitur but I happened to see videos of both of these highly competent, very cute woman (the hula woman is a mother of two, I can't bring myself to say girl) doing interesting things, and that makes it a good day, and I want to share the joy. Can't kill zombies with a hula so well, though."
Is it weird that when I watched that video I was most fascinated by how, over the course of the video, her skin got increasingly red from cold induced inflammation in an uneven pattern? Was it fleshy bits getting more red more quickly? Or was it that less fleshy bits were better protected?

I'm going to go shovel my neighbors' walks in my underwear to find out.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:22 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


SCIENCE!
posted by Blasdelb at 9:22 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Sometimes I think Metafilter is like a Roman colosseum. Users fill the seats, mods keep order, and the finest actors, athletes, carnival performers, thinkers, politicians, and wildlife are brought before them all to perform.

In every case though, the reaction is the same, "Meh! Thumbs down! This isn't that great. I could do better...", and so on.
posted by stinkycheese at 9:28 AM on January 23, 2012 [10 favorites]


She looks like my doctor probably did ~40 years ago.

And I really have to wonder what it takes to impress some people.
posted by Foosnark at 9:29 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


I think we've found our Haley for the live-action Order of the Stick.
posted by stevis23 at 9:35 AM on January 23, 2012 [8 favorites]


But can she do that while riding a wild horse, bareback with no bridle?
posted by Goofyy at 9:35 AM on January 23, 2012


stevis23: yes, but only post-Greysky City, it seems. (Also, Rich Burlew has been insanely prolific the past few weeks.)
posted by Navelgazer at 9:39 AM on January 23, 2012


This woman has slain many lurkers above, that much is clear. 1st ED. 4 EVA.
posted by Mister_A at 10:00 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


Iza, I could really use your help with a gazebo problem. Message me.
posted by sourcequench at 10:03 AM on January 23, 2012


Bowmen, compared to Knights, are cheap, more quickly and easily trained, and can shoot from a distance, safety hidden. Warren Ellis' Crecy is an underrated book (possibly cause it's drawn ...not well.)


If Ellis advanced the thesis that longbowmen are cheap, quickly and easily trained, his book isn't underrated, it's overrated. Longbow was a lifetime study, hence the legal requirement to practise in England and Wales once the English kings caught on to the effectiveness of the weapon. You had to be phenominally strong to use it, and to get full draw you had to pull the string to a point where you couldn't aim by sighting down the shaft, so you had to rely on years of practise to have any idea where the arrow would go. It also meant you had to have a wepon that could, in fact, be used to kill the ruling classes in the hands of the yeomanry all year, or they'd become ineffective with it.

Crossbows, on the other hand, were quick and easy to learn, and could be distributed and removed at a moment's notice.
posted by rodgerd at 10:04 AM on January 23, 2012 [4 favorites]


My invisible vat-man/werewolf can't do this with a full archery tree and magic equipment in Skyrim.
posted by cmoj at 10:07 AM on January 23, 2012


So what I'm saying is that she can clearly kill dragons.
posted by cmoj at 10:07 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Keep in mind that it seems fast to us, but she can slow time itself down with a subtle squeeze of her right ring finger...
posted by not_that_epiphanius at 10:12 AM on January 23, 2012


Her arrows are bouncing off a blanket or something. Bouncing! Off a blanket!

Yes.

A moment's consideration of the physics involved should end your astonishment. Many cultures made use of this effect to help protect people from arrows back in the olden days. Greek hoplites had a curtain of chains hanging from the bottom of their shields to protect their legs; the Aztecs used a similar curtain of feathers; the Japanese horo was attached at the neck and waist and billowed out like a sail when the wearer rode a horse.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 10:20 AM on January 23, 2012 [3 favorites]


Crossbows, on the other hand, were quick and easy to learn, and could be distributed and removed at a moment's notice.

And in 1139 their use against Christians was banned by Pope Innocent II.

(Ironically, the crossbow was introduced into England by William the Conqueror and helped him take the crown in the first place.

Or so I've read.)
posted by IndigoJones at 10:26 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Willow's other girlfriend.
posted by tempythethird at 10:33 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


Youtube comments for videos of this nature fall into three categories:

1) I have a boner watching this!

2) Is it strange that I have a boner watching this?

3) I just whacked off to this!
posted by ReeMonster at 10:33 AM on January 23, 2012 [1 favorite]


A moment's consideration of the physics involved should end your astonishment.

I'm not astonished that this bow shooting those arrows won't penetrate, I'm saying that it is hugely easier to shoot a bow which can be stopped by such things than, say, an English warbow which is what a lot of people think of when they think of bows. And you can't actually shoot a heavy draw warbow as quickly as she is shooting because your arm would basically explode. On the other hand you can penetrate several inches of padded armor at greater ranges than she is shooting, or you can shoot 300 or 350 yards.

Some of the other videos are actually more impressive because they give you a much better sense of her accuracy at that speed. Still can't get a great sense of the range, though.
posted by Justinian at 10:56 AM on January 23, 2012


I look forward to seeing her in the next Olympics and James Bond movie.
posted by dhartung at 11:16 AM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


The Olympics belong to Korea.
posted by Artw at 11:40 AM on January 23, 2012


Christ, cut her some slack, people.

Yes, she appears to be shooting a bow with a very low draw weight. So what? She's not demonstrating how heavy a bow she can pull, she's demonstrating how fast she can shoot. Watch some pistol speed-shooting videos. They're dominated by very light .38 and .44spl loads. No one shoots the most punishing loads on the planet for speed. Come on.

The arrows are bouncing off the blanket. Well, yes. She's almost surely shooting blunts. She can still check her speed and accuracy, without having to spend a lot of time retrieving arrows sunk halfway into a flat target. And since the arrows are bouncing off the blanket hung well away from the wall, they're not impacting the wall, which as an archer, I can assure you would damage or outright destroy them. So she's saving money too, while accomplishing her goal of shooting arrows really fast, not punching holes in blankets or wowing us all with her monster of a bow.

If I just wanted to practice speed, this is exactly how I'd do it. Lightweight bow, and set up a blanket or a carpet and shoot blunts at it so I don't have to waste good shooting time time pulling arrows out of a bale, and don't have to waste time and money repairing targets. She can probably get two, even three times the amount of shots in by just scooping up her arrows off the ground instead of pulling them out of a target.
posted by xedrik at 12:24 PM on January 23, 2012 [11 favorites]


Still can't get a great sense of the range, though.

Basketball court, the circle on the key is 3.6m (11'10"), so I'd call it no more than twice that -- roughly 20' or 6m
posted by eriko at 12:25 PM on January 23, 2012


What, no mention of the Mackenzie archers of the emberverse?
posted by dpcoffin at 12:26 PM on January 23, 2012


She is pulling the string from the wrong side.

Sorta. It's certainly unusual, but I don't think she's losing anything using this grip, and it's obviously allowing her to notch the arrow more quickly. I played around with holding a bow horizontally when I was taking archery, and you really can't notch with the traditional grip; it's incredibly awkward.

(Every time you hear a clack rather than a thud, that's the sound of a critical hit.)
...
Her arrows are bouncing off a blanket or something. Bouncing! Off a blanket!

In at least one case the clack is coming from an arrow knocking a previously-flown arrow out of the blanket; yes, she's got a dozen arrows in the blanket, but that's some Robin Hood-level shit right there.



Here's the thing that stuck out to me: When you're notching an arrow the shaft of the arrow will vibrate if you set it against the arrow rest too quickly. The vibration can be small enough to be merely annoying as you wait for the arrow to come to rest so you can release the arrow, or it can be bad enough that the arrow ends up flailing around dangerously. This woman can notch arrows quickly and accurately while completely dampening the impact of the arrow hitting the rest. And that's awesome.
posted by lekvar at 12:27 PM on January 23, 2012 [2 favorites]


She is pulling the string from the wrong side.

Traditional Japanese archery places the arrow on the 'wrong' side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QSCL9E-P1s
posted by compound eye at 12:52 PM on January 23, 2012


the Japanese horo was attached at the neck and waist and billowed out like a sail when the wearer rode a horse

We call them "capes" in the west... it's martial association, particularly with armored knights, is why we put them on superheroes.
posted by Slap*Happy at 12:57 PM on January 23, 2012


Also it looks a lot like a traditional Korean horseback bow my partner and I bought when we obsessed with riding horses across Mongolia and Kazakhstan, which was before we had two more kids, who aren't up to riding across central Asia age yet, and I think they loaded the arrows on the outside too.
posted by compound eye at 1:01 PM on January 23, 2012


I believe her school has a message for all you haters: All kinds of hostility towards me, I beg to express exclusively in the form of suicide.
posted by Panjandrum at 1:47 PM on January 23, 2012


We Need to Talk About Katniss
posted by fiercecupcake at 1:54 PM on January 23, 2012


I shot target in college.

She has no arm guard. No finger guard.
*shudders*

(Yes, I sucked)
posted by BlueHorse at 3:10 PM on January 23, 2012


>>She is pulling the string from the wrong side.
>
>Traditional Japanese archery places the arrow on the 'wrong' side:

I don't understand your point. The girl in this post is placing the arrow on the side of the bow closest to her body and pulling the string with her thumb down (palm out). That Japanese archer places the arrow on the outside of the bow (further from the body) and pulls the string with his thumb up (palm in).
posted by The Tensor at 3:29 PM on January 23, 2012


So what? She's not demonstrating how heavy a bow she can pull, she's demonstrating how fast she can shoot.

Yes, and as I said I thought some of the other videos were a lot more impressive when they gave a better sense of her accuracy. Speed in and of itself isn't that impressive, only speed with either accuracy or power (or both).

Consider... which is more impressive, me throwing 30 baseballs in a minute at roughly 50 mph and occasionally getting one over the plate or a MLB pitcher hurling 8 baseballs in a minute at 100mph and getting 7 of them over the plate? Answer: The first isn't impressive at all. We're just not used to archery while a lot of us are used to baseballs.

The accuracy was (as I have pointed out) shown better in later videos.
posted by Justinian at 4:26 PM on January 23, 2012


Which spooks the horses of advancing French chivalry crossing a field of mud more effectively when you and 99 of your closest friends are all doing the same thing. If we're going to pick nits, where's here sharpened 4x4?
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 8:23 PM on January 23, 2012


This + the Hunger Games made me sign up for archery lessons.

I figured I'd beat the rush before the movie came out.
posted by verbyournouns at 11:35 PM on January 23, 2012


Is it weird that when I watched that video I was most fascinated by how, over the course of the video, her skin got increasingly red from cold induced inflammation in an uneven pattern? Was it fleshy bits getting more red more quickly? Or was it that less fleshy bits were better protected?

My guess would be we're seeing the mosaic pattern from random X-chromosome inactivation. IIRC, at the late blastocyst stage each cell in a female mammal independently and randomly chooses which X chromosome to permanently inactivate. Tissue(s) descended from that cell will have the same X chromosome inactivated, so you get patches of e.g. skin expressing the X chromosome from the mother next to patches of skin expressing the X from the father. Female cats get patches of different coloured fur (some fur colour genes are on X), female humans get patches of different types/distributions of pores and sweat glands. I can't swear to it, but I'd bet that the different patches of cold flushing we're seeing are caused by the same thing.
posted by metaBugs at 4:50 AM on January 24, 2012 [4 favorites]


"My guess would be we're seeing the mosaic pattern from random X-chromosome inactivation."

Thats a cool hypothesis! The skin flushing appeared to me to be bilaterally symmetrical, unlike the more random mosaic pattern one would most expect from lyonization, but that doesn't necessarily discount X-inactivation or other transcriptional weirdness. Just because we can't see asymmetricality doesn't mean it isn't there, and even if the flushing is perfectly symmetrical that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't a function of chromosomal repression.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:02 AM on January 24, 2012


Method,
I don't have a shovel at my house at the moment, was initially hoping to borrow a neighbour's but its noon on a Tuesday, so I'll just for one or two quick runs this morning in bike shorts, shoes and a big hat after warming up.

Hypotheses in the order in which they were proposed,
1) The pattern we see is a function of fleshy parts being more vascularized, and thus having more access to the blood required to produce visible flushing.
2) The pattern we see is a function of non-flushed areas being less exposed to the weather because of protection from other body parts.
3) The pattern we see is a function of stochastic X-inactivation stemming from a mosaic expression of each of the parental X chromosomes, which are themselves genotypically distinct in some region involved in skin flushing.

Procedure,
I figure that if I run around the block with my hands on the hat, to equally expose my underarms and ribs, and they presented a similar non-flushing pattern to the one in the video even though they lacked protection from the elements and I am karyotypically male, then that would confirm Hypothesis 1. However, if my ribs and underarms flush with the rest of me, this result would be unable to distinguish between Hypotheses 2 and 3.

To do distinguish between Hypotheses 2 and 3, I could then wait for the flushing to die down before going for a second run, this time with my arms in a more natural position. If this time they do not flush, then that would indicate Hypothesis 2 and discount Hypothesis 3. However, if they continue to flush then, with Hypotheses 1 and 2 discounted, we would be left with the null Hypothesis 3 being weakly confirmed.

I can't believe I'm doing this.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:40 AM on January 24, 2012 [5 favorites]


Results,
Even though it is January in Ohio, I found it more difficult than I expected to get skin flush and ended up needing to jog about 8 kilometers around the Ohio Stadium to get meaningful results.*

In the end, what I saw was that skin flushing correlated strongly with even minimal differences in protection from the wind. One unexpected benefit of holding my hands on my head was that it provided some partial protection to the upper parts of my arm and none to the under parts of my arm, which is the opposite of what happened with Jenny Hoopnosis and I got opposite results. My ribs also flushed at roughly the same rate as the rest of my torso, but when I started running with my arms in a more natural position the flush went away, and in the same pattern as Jenny Hoopnosis', in just one lap.

Discussion,
I feel confident in arriving at four different conclusions,
  • Hypothesis 1, which was incidentally my favorite, is unsupported by current evidence and can be discarded.
  • Hypothesis 2 is pretty solidly confirmed.
  • Hypothesis 3 is unsupported by my results, and appears unlikely, but cannot be discarded
  • Fuck its cold in Ohio



  • *Which is why I am really glad that, after some consideration, the procedure was modified to include pants.
    posted by Blasdelb at 11:00 AM on January 24, 2012 [21 favorites]


    this sweeps the "Strangest Thread Derail" Awards. Feel pride citizens.
    posted by The Whelk at 12:33 PM on January 24, 2012 [1 favorite]


    Basdelb, you are truly a man of Science.
    posted by Justinian at 1:48 PM on January 24, 2012 [1 favorite]


    /me applauds Blasdelb.

    You're my new metafilter hero.
    posted by metaBugs at 9:12 AM on January 25, 2012 [1 favorite]


    My favorite part of this was when one of my students asked me why I was running around the stadium half naked at lunch on Tuesday. I told them that it was for science, and they were all like, oh thats what I thought it was.

    It made my day.
    posted by Blasdelb at 6:16 PM on January 27, 2012 [2 favorites]


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