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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 11207</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 11207</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://forum.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/index.php?newsid=15902918031&amp;page=1&amp;parentid=0&amp;crapfilter=1"&gt;AltaVista to be closed down?&lt;/a&gt; I guess their &#252;ber-portal strategy failed. no big news here. but closing down the search engine entirely? i guess you don&apos;t need 100 folks to run the spider and indexing machines.. ok.. there are hardware and network/bandwidth costs associated.. but closing it all down?&lt;br&gt;

no question. there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/Major_Search_Engines/The_Major_Search_Engines/index.html&quot;&gt;competition&lt;/a&gt; out there. and the googles and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alltheweb.com/&quot;&gt;fasts&lt;/a&gt; are the new benchmarks.&lt;br&gt;

but i sure remember the days when AV was super-fast (also in including submissions into their live index) and super-relevant. but in those days, the internet was much smaller and AV was owned by digital (compaq).&lt;br&gt;

those were the days when infoseek tried to compete and hotbot tried to rise to stardom.&lt;br&gt;

times changed. but i sure would miss AV.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:57:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>HeikoH</dc:creator>		<category>altavista</category>		<category>search</category>		<category>searchengines</category>		<category>portals</category>
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		<title>By: HeikoH</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150041</link>	
		<description>my bad. i missed out on interpreting pud&apos;s post on FC. the rumor is actually not concerning the AV search engine / search site but *only* referring to CMGI&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shopping.com/&quot;&gt;shopping.com&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
then again, having watched AV and its spin-offs closely over the past years, and also trying to reflect on my own online user behaviour, how many times have i really used sites such as shopping.com? even though i do like the idea of comparison shopping, i have to say the answer would be &quot;close to never&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
when was the last time anyone used a site from the AV network?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>HeikoH</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Lionfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150043</link>	
		<description>&lt;p&gt;As mentioned in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.fuckedcompany.com/phpcomments/index.php?newsid=15902918031&amp;page=1&amp;parentid=0&amp;crapfilter=1&quot;&gt;comments on f&apos;ed company&lt;/a&gt;, that is a typo.  It should read that AltaVista&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shopping.com/&quot;&gt;Shopping&lt;/a&gt; is rumoured to be shutting down.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So far, no news or rumours about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.altavista.com/&quot;&gt;search engine&lt;/a&gt; going anywhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:10:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lionfire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: RavinDave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150044</link>	
		<description>I dunno how seriously to take the mouthbreathers at f*ckedco, but (then again) I guess it wouldn&apos;t really shock me.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://babelfish.altavista.com&quot;&gt;Babelfish&lt;/a&gt; was kinda handy -- anyone know of a good substitute?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:10:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RavinDave</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: crasspastor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150045</link>	
		<description>ummmm.

A rumor from fucked company&apos;s forum warrants. . . . .????</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crasspastor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Optamystic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150047</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Babelfish was kinda handy -- anyone know of a good substitute?&lt;/i&gt;

A farsighted monkey at a typewriter?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:15:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Optamystic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wheat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150054</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dictionary.com&quot;&gt;Dictionary.com&lt;/a&gt; (warning: popunders) has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://translate.dictionary.com&quot;&gt;translation service&lt;/a&gt; as well (powered by the same engine).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 01:28:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wheat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: elle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150075</link>	
		<description>the reason for babelfish is that everyone still thinks of babelfish, but if you must talk about alternates powered by the same engine, why not just use the systran site directly? but you&apos;re going to think babelfish instead anyway, so there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 03:14:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>elle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sean17</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150207</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fuckedcompany.com&quot;&gt;FuckedCompany&lt;/a&gt; is generally pretty accurate, which is why so many sinking companies block access to the website from their intranets.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 08:29:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sean17</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150247</link>	
		<description>I haven&apos;t used AV since I found out about Google, and that was years ago - Google have added a shedload of new features since then...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:13:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150345</link>	
		<description>If it ain&apos;t Google, it ain&apos;t a-searchin!  I continue to be stunned by how *good* Google is.   I can&apos;t imagine life without it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: valerie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11207/#150425</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Babelfish was kinda handy -- anyone know of a good substitute?&lt;/i&gt;

Google has some translation tools here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/language_tools&quot;&gt;http://www.google.com/language_tools&lt;/a&gt;.

There&apos;s also a &quot;translate into English&quot; feature in the Google Toolbar.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:06:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>valerie</dc:creator>
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