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"In every family picture ... my mother was wearing a habit."

tractorfeed — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:28:50 -0800

A Brother And Sister Get Married (And Later, Their Son Tweets It)

By: anya32

anya32 — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:35:57 -0800

I heard the story this morning. It made me tear up. Thanks for sharing the link.

By: Foci for Analysis

Foci for Analysis — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:37:34 -0800

Totally thought this was going to be about incest and family shame. Glad it wasn't. Very sweet story.

By: MCMikeNamara

MCMikeNamara — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:39:27 -0800

Happy Valentine's Day indeed. From the article: "You know, we live in a culture where men are not really celebrated for love," says Fugelsang. "And so for me, the most defining personal dynamic in my life has been watching a man madly in love with his wife." I had a teacher I respected a lot who said once that was the best thing he could ever do for his sons -- show them how much he loved their mother -- even (to a point, obviously) through physical affection. I thought it was goofy -- maybe even creepy -- at the time but, thinking back to it, even though it wasn't something that my own dad ever would have said, it was certainly something he did. Even my relationships that didn't work out were improved by having my parents to compare it.

By: the1inBK

the1inBK — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:40:20 -0800

Jack Fugelsang was the Assistant Principal of my middle school.

By: Pruitt-Igoe

Pruitt-Igoe — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:43:23 -0800

I took the bait.

By: Rock Steady

Rock Steady — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:49:32 -0800

I love that I live in a world where this sentence just gets tossed into articles with no explanation. A risky stem-cell treatment in Thailand afforded him a few more years.

By: the young rope-rider

the young rope-rider — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:53:32 -0800

My cousin just married someone whose parents were a nun and a priest, who broke their vows to marry. Amazing story, thanks.

By: leotrotsky

leotrotsky — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:53:38 -0800

Misread the sentence on hospice as "hit my mom mercilessly," and thought it was an odd comment to include. It actually reads "hit on my mom mercilessly." Which is much nicer.

By: Mooski

Mooski — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:54:25 -0800

It's a really, really awesome thing to see a person's life defined by the love they hold for something or someone, and to see how that ripples outward to the people around them. Gonna go give my wife another hug now, kthx.

By: gkhan

gkhan — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:55:22 -0800

If a nun and a monk can find love together (those crazy kids!), there's hope for all of us!

By: luminarias

luminarias — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:56:06 -0800

*sniffle*

By: Bulgaroktonos

Bulgaroktonos — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:59:25 -0800

If a nun and a monk can find love together (those crazy kids!), there's hope for all of us! My wife's family has some family friends who are a former priest and former nun, and according to them, former priest always marry former nuns. This might have been covered in the article, but it was crashing my work computer. Also, she has some great stories about being a nun in the 60s, which apparently involved a lot of being high.

By: Snarl Furillo

Snarl Furillo — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:12 -0800

Also, she has some great stories about being a nun in the 60s, which apparently involved a lot of being high. Just nuns having fun!

By: Ruthless Bunny

Ruthless Bunny — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:02:33 -0800

Happy Valentine's Day! That was sweet. Love is important.

By: emjaybee

emjaybee — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:10:42 -0800

Sometimes I think the husband and I are a little over-huggy, and maybe we are, but I feel the same way; it's so important for our son to see us being loving to one another as well as to him.

By: The 10th Regiment of Foot

The 10th Regiment of Foot — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800

In other news...

By: Obscure Reference

Obscure Reference — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:17:04 -0800

I'm in the middle of reading Middlesex.

By: gillyflower

gillyflower — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:17:11 -0800

The fact that I knew who their son was before clicking through, and without having heard the NPR piece, says something about me, namely: that I am entirely too obsessed with the Stephanie Miller show (where he guests/guest hosts) and the associated Sexy Liberal Comedy Tour. John is known as the Ecclesiastical Mook on the show, due to his high level of religious literacy and his family's, ahem...religious background.

By: photovox

photovox — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:19:53 -0800

This is actually the second time I've heard of this happening. (damn, on preview it's now the 4th...) I went to a Catholic, all-boys high school in a southwest suburb of Chicago. Sophomore year we all had to take a class on the Gospels for one semester. The teacher looked to me like an crotchety old man whose face perpetually said "GET OFF MY LAWN." How wrong I was. It was at a high school retreat when he told us his story about how he was a brother and he had met a woman who was a nun and how they fell in love. While I don't remember the details of the story, I remember that the anguish in his decision to leave the brotherhood was matched by the love that he had for woman he was going to marry. He was (and still is) one of my most favorite teachers and inspirations of all time. The man had more passion and energy for teaching than any teacher I had before or after him. His main takeaway was that Jesus' message was about LOVE; you could tell by his interactions with other faculty, students, and his family that he took the message to heart. How many Catholics (or any other Christian) can you say do the same?

By: agatha_magatha

agatha_magatha — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:22:02 -0800

This is a terrific story (and I'm so glad it didn't go the way I was afraid it was going to go). It is inspiring to hear about that level of devotion. Thank you, tractorfeed.

By: The demon that lives in the air

The demon that lives in the air — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:22:55 -0800

Add to the list of Priest/Nun relationships: Vows: The Story of a Priest, a Nun and Their Son by Peter Manseau, editor of religion commentary blog Killing the Buddha.

By: tommasz

tommasz — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:32:44 -0800

My step-mom has a cousin who was a Marist Brother who married a nun (Sisters of St. Joseph if I recall correctly). They were both teachers and continued to teach after leaving their orders. Their children grew up with very high academic expectations, naturally.

By: briank

briank — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:33:05 -0800

My mother-in-law was a novitiate who left the convent to get married. Her brother was a priest who quit his vows to marry a woman who was also a nun -- they even got a special dispensation from the Vatican to do so and he is allowed to perform sacraments. However, none of them are practicing Catholics today.

By: gaspode

gaspode — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:34:48 -0800

The tweets totally made me tear up. And there's something that I never thought I'd write!

By: dubold

dubold — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:36:17 -0800

A risky stem-cell treatment in Thailand afforded him a few more years. I take it Jack and Peggy left the Catholic church when they got married?

By: Greg Nog

Greg Nog — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:03:56 -0800

The day before he died he got to see his grandson Endy, who gets to live in this world b/c Jack broke a vow to God Hail Satan!

By: DevilsAdvocate

DevilsAdvocate — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:05:41 -0800

I take it Jack and Peggy left the Catholic church when they got married? From the tweets:

My Dad heard about a joint Israeli-Thai stem cell treatment in Thailand, using one's own stem cells from blood.

The Catholic Church only objects to the use of embryonic stem cells, not adult stem cells. But even adult stem cell treatments still require FDA approval, and all the associated years of clinical trials, which is (I presume) why the treatment could not be done in the US.

By: Corduroy

Corduroy — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:22:00 -0800

Wonderful.

By: PhoBWanKenobi

PhoBWanKenobi — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:39:51 -0800

*sniffle* Damn you, metafilter. Second link in a half hour that's made me tear up.

By: Anima Mundi

Anima Mundi — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:04:52 -0800

This is a touching story. If only more relationships/marriages were like this....

By: tokidoki

tokidoki — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:07:44 -0800

Who needs over budgeted underwhelming romance films when we have wonderful real stories of love here?! I need to get some more tissues.

By: gimli

gimli — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:13:47 -0800

My wife had the good fortune to have Jack Fugelsang as her American History instructor in CC just after she decided to resume her education. His enthusiasm and encouragement played a huge role in rekindling her academic spirit and helping her realize that she was capable of excelling in school. We're both very sad to hear of his passing.

By: V4V

V4V — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:21:18 -0800

Fucking awesome. The pictures in the slideshow were great, too. Thanks for the post!

By: bitter-girl.com

bitter-girl.com — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:40:37 -0800

My college roommate's parents were ex-nun + ex-priest. She had a field day with some of my wilder hair color experiments, bless her...

By: dubold

dubold — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:39:20 -0800

By: the cydonian

the cydonian — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:35:05 -0800

And my mother has had a tough time since then. I think that she realized that her love was every bit as deep as his. And she used to complain to me about how she would say, you know, oh, he won't stop telling me he loves me. I'm so sick of it. I don't know what to say. He just says I love you all day long. It drives me crazy. And then she said to me last month: I would give anything to hear him say it again. Something keeps flying into my eyes each time I read this.

By: wenestvedt

wenestvedt — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:24:41 -0800

My friend's parents were a novice and a�.brother, I think. As I have it, they met and within a week both left their respective orders in order to be together. Delightful, delightful people: smart, principled, generous. They raised two wonderfuls sons who I feel lucky to know. He passed some years ago, but she kept in touch with the other women in her class/cohort/whatever and still visits them regularly.