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February 16, 2012 7:08 AM   Subscribe

Virtual Legos: Now Actual Legos. You can now pre-order the Minecraft Lego set.
posted by empath (66 comments total) 10 users marked this as a favorite

 
I'm going to pretend that I didn't see that 's' on the end there.
posted by mippy at 7:12 AM on February 16, 2012 [23 favorites]


I swear I'm going to by these and set them out - tastefully! - on the table when guests come over. We can make chit-chat, or we can play lego. Your call.
posted by The Whelk at 7:14 AM on February 16, 2012 [4 favorites]


It looks like each individual set will be small and cheap, sort of like how you can buy just a single Lego ambulance out of the city set. But each set here has its own set of ground tiles, incl. cave, so you can link them together however long you want, just like the world generator. Neat.

I hope they find a way to add a bit more texture to the surfaces. There are apparently plastic caps that you can put on top of the bricks to make them flat; print a face on just those and I'd be happy.
posted by LogicalDash at 7:14 AM on February 16, 2012


Seriously though, I have a 2hr stopover in Denmark at the end of March. Is there a factory I can break into somewhere nearby, perhaps whilst dressed as a creeper, and obtain a set? I can't play the real Minecraft very easily because I can't easily do 3D games, but the real virtual real lego sounds ACE.
posted by mippy at 7:15 AM on February 16, 2012


Mini-creeper! Squeee!

Oh, um, I mean, sssssssssss.......
posted by LN at 7:15 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


I wonder how well these will work with the older Rock Raiders sets?
posted by LogicalDash at 7:15 AM on February 16, 2012


Sadly it doesn't come with an infinite number of blocks.
posted by Segundus at 7:16 AM on February 16, 2012


LogicalDash, it appears to be one set for $35.99 that contains all four of the modules.
posted by not that girl at 7:17 AM on February 16, 2012


Come ON, Lego, give Steve? [sic] some arms to put the tools in. All your other sets have'm, and Steve? doesn't need elbow joints!
posted by LogicalDash at 7:18 AM on February 16, 2012


The scale of Lego and Minecraft are different. Are the "blocks" here actually a lego brick plus a lego plate in height? Also, the characters are non-standard (wrt Lego).

Which is not to say I didn't order.
posted by DU at 7:18 AM on February 16, 2012


Well, the preorders are, but modularizing it and then not offering the models for indy purchase to hook kids who've only got ten dollars of allowance to burn... t'wouldn't be much like Lego at all.
posted by LogicalDash at 7:19 AM on February 16, 2012


s/models/modules/
posted by LogicalDash at 7:19 AM on February 16, 2012


Sadly it doesn't come with an infinite number of blocks.

Creative mode is for wimps.
posted by neckro23 at 7:19 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


There are infinite number of blocks in every mode. You just might have to walk infinitely far to get them.
posted by DU at 7:20 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Well there are an infinite number of these Minecraft Lego sets, you just have to spend an infinite amount of dollars to buy them.
posted by burnmp3s at 7:22 AM on February 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Not actually infinite. Minecraft starts to get weird at the edges.
posted by empath at 7:23 AM on February 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Yeah, I knew that about the Farlands but I can never remember it. Doesn't Java have bignums?

Someone should rewrite Minecraft in Lisp, which would make mods not only easier but able to be made *live*. Which would rule.
posted by DU at 7:26 AM on February 16, 2012


I'll just wait for the Lego Minecraft video game.
posted by Faint of Butt at 7:26 AM on February 16, 2012 [13 favorites]


Lego CUUSOO would have been the coolest thing in the world to me... 10 years ago
posted by MangyCarface at 7:28 AM on February 16, 2012


Minecraft Lego is like a movie based on a novelization of a movie.
posted by brain_drain at 7:31 AM on February 16, 2012 [4 favorites]


Someone should rewrite Minecraft in Lisp, which would make mods not only easier but able to be made *live*. Which would rule.


There's no reason you couldn't mod minecraft live. It's in java, you should be able to inject java into it on the fly.
posted by empath at 7:34 AM on February 16, 2012


When the Star Wars Lego sets first came out in 1999, there was a public Q and A with one of the developers. People kept asking, "Are you going to make X?" "Are you going to make Y?"

The developer was a bit perplexed by the questions. Remember, Star Wars was one of the first licensed properties for Lego. He kept responding with, "This is Lego. You can build those things right now!" The questioners would hear none of it.

I leave deciphering the point of this comment as an exercise for the reader.
posted by Legomancer at 7:39 AM on February 16, 2012 [7 favorites]


i feel bad for all those kids who don't know what minecraft is, and whose parents don't know what minecraft is, and they open their present and get the shittiest-looking lego set they've ever seen.
posted by fetamelter at 7:43 AM on February 16, 2012 [12 favorites]


I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
posted by Talez at 7:50 AM on February 16, 2012


Do y'all Lego purists feel the original Lego City boxset was a pointless waste of time? At what point do build instructions with selected pieces become heretical?
posted by LogicalDash at 7:52 AM on February 16, 2012


It's not that it's heretical. It's just...Cuusoo is a way to speak directly to Lego about what you want, and that its first big story is "Lego based on a game based on Lego" is somewhat disheartening.

The fact that so many Cuusoo proposals are just "Make sets of my favorite anime/movie/videogame" is kind of sad. I like Lego as a building toy, not a building medium. If you just want a statue of an Evangelion, a time-traveling Delorean, or a Xenogear to put in your cubicle at work, you're already well set up.
posted by Legomancer at 8:05 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


But...Minecraft is also a building toy. It's the perfect match. Lego IS Minecraft and vice versa, except they have different skins. Making a Lego texture pack for Minecraft would no more ruin Minecraft than making Minecraft stickers for Lego ruins Lego.
posted by DU at 8:09 AM on February 16, 2012


Lego IS Minecraft and vice versa

No.
posted by Talez at 8:13 AM on February 16, 2012


Minecraft recursion?
posted by republican at 8:16 AM on February 16, 2012


I would much rather this had been a Minecraft themed bucket of bricks in the same colors, but with no instructions. You build what you want, like Minecraft.

This set seems more like it's just a desk ornament for nerds. Which may very well be a good selling point, from a business perspective.
posted by Fleebnork at 8:17 AM on February 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Every Lego set with instructions is ALSO a bucket of bricks.

That said, I super super love Lego instructions. The infographics are so clear and well-done. It makes me want to live in Denmark every time I use them.
posted by DU at 8:22 AM on February 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Yes, I know. I have a passing familiarity with Lego.
posted by Fleebnork at 8:25 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Seriously though, I have a 2hr stopover in Denmark at the end of March. Is there a factory I can break into somewhere nearby, perhaps whilst dressed as a creeper, and obtain a set?

I believe only the bricks are made in Denmark, while the sets are assembled in the Czech Republic and Mexico.
posted by smackfu at 8:27 AM on February 16, 2012


It's just...Cuusoo is a way to speak directly to Lego about what you want, and that its first big story is "Lego based on a game based on Lego" is somewhat disheartening.

The other two Cuusoo sets seem very Japanese (a Japanese deep sea sub and a Japanese satellite), which is also a bit odd.
posted by smackfu at 8:30 AM on February 16, 2012


I'd really like baby animal minifigs.
posted by Ad hominem at 8:30 AM on February 16, 2012


Ordered. I'm sure I'll forget all about it by summer and be totally confused as to why these showed up.
posted by Ad hominem at 8:37 AM on February 16, 2012


I like Lego as a building toy, not a building medium.

I don't really understand what distinction you're trying to imply with this.
posted by LogicalDash at 8:38 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


I hate the current LEGO convention that you have to cover everything with a smooth cap to make it look like it's not made of LEGO.

In this case, it makes the LEGO version look less like what it's trying to be. None of those examples look very much like Minecraft to me because you've got thin layers of sand and dirt on top of stone. Grass growing on stone. Dirt houses with thin, 1/3 block, roofs.

This really should be a bucket of special cube-shaped pieces, half-cubes, stair-steps, and a few special items like doors, windows, fences, etc.

At least the creeper is cute.
posted by straight at 8:40 AM on February 16, 2012


The only bummer with these kind of sets is that they are rather tedious to build. The instructions are like "1. Place the bricks in layer #1 as shown in the diagram, 2. Place the bricks for Layer #2, etc. Same issue comes up with the Lego Architecture series.

It's actually very similar to the Lego competitor Nanoblocks, who have a ton of tiny, tiny little pieces.
posted by smackfu at 8:41 AM on February 16, 2012


Freeform building as opposed to kit?

I'd also like a Testificate, I hope they put out more modules soon.
posted by Ad hominem at 8:41 AM on February 16, 2012


That said, I super super love Lego instructions. The infographics are so clear and well-done. It makes me want to live in Denmark every time I use them.

I have trouble differentiating the colors every once in a while...."is that black, or dark grey?"

My son is a fan of Minecraft *and* Lego. I see a purchase in his future.
posted by Lucinda at 8:43 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


This really should be a bucket of special cube-shaped pieces, half-cubes, stair-steps, and a few special items like doors, windows, fences, etc.

The first rule of new Lego set production is that they minimize the number of new pieces, since creating new injection molds is incredibly expensive, relative to reusing existing molds. So a flagship set like the police station may have a single new piece.

(Yes, I did watch the Lego factory documentary on National Geographic, why do you ask?)
posted by smackfu at 8:44 AM on February 16, 2012


Wa-a-aaaaiiit... it looks like you can put a cap on another cap. They have it at the front corner of the first picture.

If they use regular Lego for the caverns, and those shallow caps for the surface world... I dunno, that could be cool. Encourages you to move the topsoil around more.
posted by LogicalDash at 8:44 AM on February 16, 2012


Minecraft is also a building toy. It's the perfect match. Lego IS Minecraft and vice versa, except they have different skins.

For me at least Minecraft would be incredibly boring if it was just a model-building simulator. The fact that the whole world is modifiable and you have the tools to build cool stuff makes it deeper and more entertaining than it would normally be, but the rougelike-lite gameplay of defeating monsters and exploring randomly generated hostile places is the key part that turns it into an actual game. In fact what got me into playing Minecraft again after not playing it for a long time was the Super Hostile maps. I'm not usually into super difficulty in games and I'm not a particularly skilled Minecraft player, but I wish the normal Minecraft generated worlds had some of the additional challenge that those maps have.
posted by burnmp3s at 8:47 AM on February 16, 2012


I hope the Mindstorms division is hard at work on implementing a Redstone set.
posted by usonian at 8:49 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


There seem to be two schools of LEGO. There's the built-it-once, use it as a toy or a desk ornament faction, and there's the lost-the-instructions-and-half-the-pieces-but-that-doesnt-matter school.

My five-year-old enjoys LEGO so much more now that he's graduated from the former to the latter. Whereas my two-year-old just takes the heads off all the minifigures, puts them in a big pile, and expresses extreme satisfaction about it.

Also, I can't help feeling, having played with a number of modern sets, that there are about four times more brick types than there ought to be.
posted by le morte de bea arthur at 8:49 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Those brick types are for the third school of LEGO: as an accurate modeling toy for adults who don't want to see studs sticking out on their models.
posted by smackfu at 8:55 AM on February 16, 2012


I like Lego as a building toy, not a building medium.

I don't really understand what distinction you're trying to imply with this.


Similar to "action figures" that can't actually be played with, but are intended for adults to display in their cubicles at work.
posted by Legomancer at 9:03 AM on February 16, 2012


I 'inherited' a load of Lego from my much older sister and brother - I think this was either before the sets existed, or I had too much to ask for more specialised stuff. My brother had Lego Technic, which even years after he left home I wasn't allowed to play with.

The first time I got to play with it when I was eight, I built a working drill. Thinking about that makes me feel sad for the sets that lay sealed in the loft for years that I could have turned into cool plastic power tools.
posted by mippy at 9:22 AM on February 16, 2012


I'm going to pretend that I didn't see that 's' on the end there.

You may want to check out this thread.
posted by Aquaman at 9:31 AM on February 16, 2012


I would much rather this had been a Minecraft themed bucket of bricks in the same colors, but with no instructions. You build what you want, like Minecraft.

The sets should come pre-built as blocks of landscape, and then you knock off the bricks you want with a tiny stick.

Minecraft Lego is like a movie based on a novelization of a movie.

Next upcoming project: "LEGO Minecraft for the 360". Full recursion sequence - initiated.
posted by FatherDagon at 9:44 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Aquaman, I did my degree in linguistics*, I have already had prescriptivism out the ass. It's just jarring to those outwith North America - you guys do some weird things with your count and mass nouns, you know.


*and if I'd known about the lego/legos thing I would have written more interesting essays
posted by mippy at 9:49 AM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Similar to "action figures" that can't actually be played with, but are intended for adults to display in their cubicles at work.

The My Little Pony toys don't have any moving parts. Well, some of them have combable hair. Maybe accessories too, but the model-kit vendors just love selling that sort of thing, too.

How would you go about designing a toy that cannot be played with? I guess you'd have to avoid actually selling it.
posted by LogicalDash at 10:19 AM on February 16, 2012


I hope the Mindstorms division is hard at work on implementing a Redstone set.

I have very seriously been designing this with a co-worker with an electrical engineering background. We're actually debating whether to buy a 3d printer for prototyping.
posted by empath at 10:34 AM on February 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Similar to "action figures" that can't actually be played with, but are intended for adults to display in their cubicles at work.

The stuff people buy as "collectibles", failing to realise that what makes boxed toys valuable is that 99.9% of the original purchasers tore the boxes to pieces and threw them away.
posted by howfar at 10:35 AM on February 16, 2012


"Redstone kits" would just be Snap Circuits on Lego instead of those... uh, pants-button things they use. And made to look like Redstone of course.

Getting Mindstorms involved would not fit very well with the Minecraft theme at all. Redstone torches provide you with NAND and NOR gates and you have to build the rest by "hand".
posted by LogicalDash at 11:18 AM on February 16, 2012


Oh God, this is like my Aspie kid's dream! Too bad his birthday (17! Ack!) is next month instead of next summer.

On the topic of Minecraft selling out or whatever, we amused ourselves at dinner last night casting a terrible live action Minecraft movie. (Minecraft: The Griefenng) Shia Labouf was a must have as the kid whose server gets hit by lightning and Sam Jackson was the crusty older player he meets when the players get sucked into the game. We decided there needed to be a few more players like a genius little kid and a popular girl who is secretly a gamer. Andy Serkis can play all the creepers, ghasts and endermen. But who could play Herobrine?

I don't even play...I just absorb it!
posted by Biblio at 11:38 AM on February 16, 2012


I would much rather this had been a Minecraft themed bucket of bricks in the same colors, but with no instructions. You build what you want, like Minecraft.

Creative people will do that anyways, right? Or just build Minecraft stuff with their existing blocks, for that matter. And the people who want a desk ornament will follow the instructions. What's the problem, really?
posted by smackfu at 11:47 AM on February 16, 2012


what is this bullshit?

1) the blocks clearly are the wrong shape and size.

2) It doesn't even LOOK like minecraft. the blocks are put together wrong, the pieces are wrong, how they expect to make stairs, workbenches, etc is beyond me.

3) they are charging $10 more for a shitty, toy version of the game than they are charging for the game itself. That would be like selling a Master Chief for $85.


I am thoroughly disgusted and disappointed by this.
posted by rebent at 11:55 AM on February 16, 2012


They do sell Master Chief helmets for $85.
posted by smackfu at 12:07 PM on February 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


So...what is the appeal of this, beyond the initial: oh, that's cool?

I mean, I understand the similarity between Lego and Minecraft, but they ultimately serve two different purposes. I don't want to play Minecraft when I'm playing with Lego. And I don't think of Minecraft as just a virtual box of Lego bricks.
posted by asnider at 1:16 PM on February 16, 2012


I was ready to preorder until I saw the actual blocks. They're just plain lego blocks. The blocks don't have the texture colors that minecraft blocks do. I was assuming that dirt blocks would look like minecraft dirt, not just be brown blocks.
posted by HappyEngineer at 2:10 PM on February 16, 2012


Creative people will do that anyways, right? Or just build Minecraft stuff with their existing blocks, for that matter. And the people who want a desk ornament will follow the instructions. What's the problem, really?

Mostly I would just like a way to get an earth tone brick bucket.
posted by Fleebnork at 2:13 PM on February 16, 2012


So...what is the appeal of this, beyond the initial: oh, that's cool?

As mentioned above, Lego sells a lot of stuff today that is mainly meant to be built once by an adult and put on their desk. For instance, the entire Lego Architecture series.
posted by smackfu at 3:06 PM on February 16, 2012


So, ah... for all the people wondering why you would need a special set for Lego Minecraft... you don't, and they didn't make one. These are just regular Legos [sic] with a chassis on the bottom to make it easier to make several chunks of world.
posted by LogicalDash at 5:28 PM on February 17, 2012


The basic Lego block is a bit too tall to look like a cube.

So it looks like this set is including a bunch of 1/3 size pieces, with and without the Lego-pip on top, that you can stack 2-high for a cube-like effect.
posted by LogicalDash at 5:23 AM on February 18, 2012


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