Controversial Baby Dynamics Yoga
March 4, 2012 8:51 AM Subscribe
Controversial Baby Dynamics Yoga. "Despite criticism that baby yoga can cause potentially fatally injuries to young children, Lena insists the techniques are safe."
This post was deleted for the following reason: This appears to be a little too close to straight-up child abuse to work well here. -- restless_nomad
I just watched the beginning, but what exactly makes that yoga? I'm not exactly a yoga expert, but what she's doing doesn't have any similarity to any yoga I've ever seen.
My Brooklyn hipster friends' kids do toddler yoga in their daycare, and it's basically just lots of child's poses and downward dogs. You know: yoga. But for toddlers. No weird arm-swinging involved.
posted by craichead at 9:00 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
My Brooklyn hipster friends' kids do toddler yoga in their daycare, and it's basically just lots of child's poses and downward dogs. You know: yoga. But for toddlers. No weird arm-swinging involved.
posted by craichead at 9:00 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
yikes!
posted by cherryflute at 9:01 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by cherryflute at 9:01 AM on March 4, 2012
The video shows a woman beating the fuck out her tiny baby by swinging it through the air like a rag doll. WTF? Please tell me she is in prison. Someone call social services.
posted by humanfont at 9:04 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by humanfont at 9:04 AM on March 4, 2012
Child abuse, and quite severe. It's really bad for babies' joints and brains to be whipped around like that. My physiotherapist wife couldn't even watch it she was so horrified.
posted by jimmythefish at 9:06 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by jimmythefish at 9:06 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
So basically what we have here is a single link video to child abuse?
posted by empath at 9:07 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by empath at 9:07 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
This looks like a pretty amazing troll.
If you pay attention there are really two kinds of shots, close up ones that do not involve crazy shit and have an obviously live baby and panned out ones where the 'baby's' face does not move and the position of the 'baby's' limbs are specifically manipulated.
I'd guess that this is just barcroft media proving that it can produce viral shit to market itself to advertisers.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:10 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
If you pay attention there are really two kinds of shots, close up ones that do not involve crazy shit and have an obviously live baby and panned out ones where the 'baby's' face does not move and the position of the 'baby's' limbs are specifically manipulated.
I'd guess that this is just barcroft media proving that it can produce viral shit to market itself to advertisers.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:10 AM on March 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Wow, I was expecting a lady just sort of stretching a baby's arms and legs, not baby swinging.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:11 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:11 AM on March 4, 2012
I laughed incredibly hard when I saw the opening of the video... so obviously an absurdist parody video (of what? not sure).
Then it turned out to be real. Holy balls someone stop this lady.
posted by basicchannel at 9:11 AM on March 4, 2012
Then it turned out to be real. Holy balls someone stop this lady.
posted by basicchannel at 9:11 AM on March 4, 2012
I couldn't make it through much of the video, so could someone please explain how in the hell she thinks this benefits a baby?
posted by des at 9:12 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by des at 9:12 AM on March 4, 2012
I am begging someone to prove that this was made using a doll and some crying baby sound effect.
posted by prefpara at 9:13 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by prefpara at 9:13 AM on March 4, 2012
Is anyone sure that the "babies" she flings around are not dolls? There's one scene where a woman hands her a baby that is clearly real, but then there's a cut--we never see a seamless shot of what is clearly a baby being given to her or picked up, and then flung around. The baby in the tub is clearly real, we get a close-up of that one. But I'm not sure about the babies being flung.
Or what Blasdelb said.
posted by not that girl at 9:13 AM on March 4, 2012
Or what Blasdelb said.
posted by not that girl at 9:13 AM on March 4, 2012
Can the OP provide a bit more context? Where did s/he find the link? Who is Lena?
posted by KokuRyu at 9:15 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by KokuRyu at 9:15 AM on March 4, 2012
This lady was on Gawker a year ago. Come on, internet, let's move on.
posted by thirteenkiller at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by thirteenkiller at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2012
Rewatching, some of those "babies" really look like dolls: the baby in the intro, for instance. But some of them look to be real.
And yeah, this seems like a really weak post.
posted by craichead at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2012
And yeah, this seems like a really weak post.
posted by craichead at 9:17 AM on March 4, 2012
A while ago I read this interview about the process, which explained a little more. There are definitely moments where this reminded me of "ribbon dancer" videos from when I was a kid.
posted by nzydarkxj at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by nzydarkxj at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
No, not cool. Not funny. Abuse promotion. And promoting this, I don't care if *this* was a doll... people ape what they see performed.
Shaken Baby Syndrome? It takes disproportionately minute amounts of force to damage babies permanently.
Shaken Baby Syndrome? It takes disproportionately minute amounts of force to damage babies permanently.
-Babies' heads are relatively large and heavy, making up about 25% of their total body weight.posted by infinite intimation at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
-Their neck muscles are too weak to support such a disproportionately large head.
-Babies' brains are immature and more easily injured by shaking.
-Babies' blood vessels around the brain are more susceptible to tearing than older children or adults.
-The brain rotates within the skull cavity, injuring or destroying brain tissue.
-When shaking occurs, blood vessels feeding the brain can be torn, leading to bleeding around the brain.
-Blood pools within the skull, sometimes creating more pressure within the skull and possibly causing additional brain damage.
-Retinal (back of the eye) bleeding is very common
Baby yoga specialist Lena Fokina reduced to tears on Russian television.
posted by hermitosis at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by hermitosis at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012
Looks like . . . not fake. On preview, thirteenkiller is correct - this is pretty old news.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
"So basically what we have here is a single link video to child abuse?"
This would cause unmistakably visible damage if real, and it pretty clearly isn't. It is just artfully cut video. How so many reputable news sources were fooled however is pretty interesting
posted by Blasdelb at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
This would cause unmistakably visible damage if real, and it pretty clearly isn't. It is just artfully cut video. How so many reputable news sources were fooled however is pretty interesting
posted by Blasdelb at 9:18 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
It's ok. She has a certificate, and a website, and trained with this Russian guru who is quite advanced about baby rebirthing. She's given classes all over. She knows things, and she is too busy learning to deal with all that negative energy on the web. Anyway, what do all those "expert" physiologists know? They're all educated the same way. She does it on the beach. It's connected with nature. She has a lot of strong energy about her. Look, if you're against it, you can go have a burger or something. But we're at this resort to learn something about ourselves, we're really lucky she's here, and what, you don't think our baby's spiritual development is important?
posted by oneironaut at 9:20 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by oneironaut at 9:20 AM on March 4, 2012
Blasdelb, do you have proof that numerous news agencies with fact-checking sources are incorrect?
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:20 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:20 AM on March 4, 2012
I thought babies were specifically adapted to grip and hang?
posted by cmoj at 9:25 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by cmoj at 9:25 AM on March 4, 2012
I thought babies were specifically adapted to grip and hang?
baby sloths > baby humans
posted by elizardbits at 9:30 AM on March 4, 2012
baby sloths > baby humans
posted by elizardbits at 9:30 AM on March 4, 2012
"Blasdelb, do you have proof that numerous news agencies with fact-checking sources are incorrect?"
Among the reputable news organizations involved, it looks like only the BBC and Daily Mail have put even the barest shred of necessary to not contantly quote the BBC and Daily Mail, and we all know how we feel about the Daily Mail.
I haven't yet seen an instance, including within the BBC, of a journalist claiming to have seen the baby yoga actually happening with their own eyes. This could all be pulled off with a few thousand dollars a small number of people who want to be sort of famous, and a media company interested in garnering attention for their ability to produce viral shit.
Look at the video again, there is no point in which an animatedly live baby is shown in the same shot as a swinging baby.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:31 AM on March 4, 2012
Among the reputable news organizations involved, it looks like only the BBC and Daily Mail have put even the barest shred of necessary to not contantly quote the BBC and Daily Mail, and we all know how we feel about the Daily Mail.
I haven't yet seen an instance, including within the BBC, of a journalist claiming to have seen the baby yoga actually happening with their own eyes. This could all be pulled off with a few thousand dollars a small number of people who want to be sort of famous, and a media company interested in garnering attention for their ability to produce viral shit.
Look at the video again, there is no point in which an animatedly live baby is shown in the same shot as a swinging baby.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:31 AM on March 4, 2012
This appears to be real. I do not understand why this woman is not in prison.
posted by prefpara at 9:32 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by prefpara at 9:32 AM on March 4, 2012
I mean, I thought it was fake when I first saw it, too. But. Well, it doesn't seem to be fake, and I'm not going to value my limited "oh hai i'm an expert on the internet" knowledge over the BBC. For now, at least. If fake, I'd like to see some evidence.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:33 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:33 AM on March 4, 2012
Look at the video again, there is no point in which an animatedly live baby is shown in the same shot as a swinging baby.
Go to :52 - that is a real baby and it is crying. That's where I stopped watching.
posted by des at 9:35 AM on March 4, 2012
Go to :52 - that is a real baby and it is crying. That's where I stopped watching.
posted by des at 9:35 AM on March 4, 2012
People in this world are so so weird that I have no problem believing it's real. But maybe it's fake!
posted by thirteenkiller at 9:38 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by thirteenkiller at 9:38 AM on March 4, 2012
I need to sign in to see the video, so FT, but '"Despite criticism that baby yoga can cause potentially fatally injuries to young children, Lena insists the techniques are safe."' is a statement so leading it might qualify for the Daily Mail. A monkey can find critcism of anything using google, how about something along the lines of 'despite evidence'?
posted by biffa at 9:41 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by biffa at 9:41 AM on March 4, 2012
"Go to :52 - that is a real baby and it is crying. That's where I stopped watching."
You see three ~8 second clips of a 'baby' with a single distressed expression on its face and pretty wooden limbs being swung around while a clear track of a baby crying is super imposed onto the wind buffered soundtrack. Babies heads are also really heavy compared to their bodies in a way that does seem evident in the swinging to me.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:42 AM on March 4, 2012
You see three ~8 second clips of a 'baby' with a single distressed expression on its face and pretty wooden limbs being swung around while a clear track of a baby crying is super imposed onto the wind buffered soundtrack. Babies heads are also really heavy compared to their bodies in a way that does seem evident in the swinging to me.
posted by Blasdelb at 9:42 AM on March 4, 2012
baby sloths > baby humans
The baby in the video is clearly swapped out for a baby sloth... you have to watch closely!
posted by KokuRyu at 9:43 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
The baby in the video is clearly swapped out for a baby sloth... you have to watch closely!
posted by KokuRyu at 9:43 AM on March 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't know shit about babies but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to pick them up by an arm or even two arms (I have been yelled at for this and told I was going to rip them off or dislocate the shoulders). Let alone swinging them around.
FYI, I pick my 6-month-old daughter up this way and her arms are fine. Ever seen kids hang from monkey bars? Do their arms come off?
That said, once I have picked up my daughter I do not start swinging her around over my head and making her do flips. That seems insane.
posted by tylerkaraszewski at 9:45 AM on March 4, 2012
FYI, I pick my 6-month-old daughter up this way and her arms are fine. Ever seen kids hang from monkey bars? Do their arms come off?
That said, once I have picked up my daughter I do not start swinging her around over my head and making her do flips. That seems insane.
posted by tylerkaraszewski at 9:45 AM on March 4, 2012
Oops. Failed at a closing italics tag.
posted by tylerkaraszewski at 9:46 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by tylerkaraszewski at 9:46 AM on March 4, 2012
I want to believe Blasdelb more than I've ever wanted to believe in anything. Please please please let this not be real.
posted by Mamapotomus at 9:57 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by Mamapotomus at 9:57 AM on March 4, 2012
Needs to have kitten juggling added to win at the entire internet.
posted by Keith Talent at 9:59 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by Keith Talent at 9:59 AM on March 4, 2012
Kids on monkey bars is not the same as babies being picked up by their arms. You really can dislocate their shoulders or cause "nursemaid's elbow," which is a dislocation of the elbow joint caused by a sudden pull. I have gotten this info from medical professionals and a friend who is an occupational therapist who works with injured kids, but have no other particular expertise.
posted by not that girl at 10:02 AM on March 4, 2012
posted by not that girl at 10:02 AM on March 4, 2012
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