The US has the most sophisticated and advanced missile defense systems in the world and stealth drones ... There is really nothing unexpected about it "failing" less than a minute after take off. I am mildly curious if it was done via a software hack of the control systems, sabotage during manufacture, or an actual defense system.Stealth drones can't magically make rockets not work, and I doubt this thing had much software to hack.
"Stuxnet initially spreads indiscriminately, but includes a highly specialized malware payload that is designed to target only Siemens supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) systems that are configured to control and monitor specific industrial processes. . .Siemens stated on 29 November that the worm has not caused any damage to its customers, but the Iran nuclear program, which uses embargoed Siemens equipment procured secretly, has been damaged by Stuxnet.Stuxnet was clever but not really magical. It was just an ordinary computer virus. The only reason it was successful was due to a security bug in windows that no one else had discovered. Because it spread slowly and only damaged centrifuges that were hooked up to infected machines, it wouldn't be noticed for a long time.
We had both means and motive. Why wouldn't we have done everything we could to sabotage or destroy the missile.Why didn't we do everything we could to sabotage their nuclear program? Oh, maybe because the CIA isn't staffed by magical leprechauns? How much advance notice did we even have about this rocket? How much did we know about it before it showed up on a platform, ready to launch.
It has been reported for several months now that the North Koreans were planing a possible nuclear test and rocket launch to coincide with this anniversary event. There have been media reports that satellite imagery indicated fresh construction at the launch facility and at a location where they do nuclear testing. The rocket itself was sitting not the launch pad for over a week. The North Koreans issued a general aviation warning of an imminent launch within the next 5 days earlier this week.
We probably are engaged in sabotage against their nuclear program. There have been reports of lower than expected yields and partial failures during the tests. It would be strange if policy makers who approved covert action against the Iranian program didn't approve similar measures against North Korea.
Yes, it is rocket science. But the putative aim of the launch was to deploy a satellite in space, and this stuff goes on continuously in the commercial realm. Large investments are deposited daily on the ability of satellite launchers to get the payload in orbit without any glitches or fuckups.No, glitches and fuck ups happen all the time. The cost of failures is figured into the overall cost. Do you seriously think every satellite launch is successful?
Among North Korea observers, that acknowledgment became almost as significant as the launch itself and fed into speculation about what its authoritarian regime will do next and how far the admission of failure had weakened its grip on power.posted by Nelson at 11:22 AM on April 13, 2012
"They decided it would be better to get out in front it rather than having the failure spread through word of month," he said. Some noted that, after enduring a month of international criticism for the launch and inviting foreign reporters to see the rocket earlier this week, the government had no other choice but to break with past claims of successful launches, despite their failure.
One can identify a significant number of benefits for the US with the failure of the missile test and other prior test failures. A successful test would have been a bad outcome for the US. This one would assume given the opportunity to play a role in the success or failure of the test, we would have an incentive to act to increase the potential for failure.So what? You can't just say, okay the U.S. would be better off if the missile failed, therefore we used black magic to make it happen. That's just ridiculous. We had way more incentive to stop their nuclear testing, but weren't able to do it, so why would we be able to stop it this?
Given the benefits and consequences of various outcomes and the trivial effort involved in crashing the rocket;How would this be 'trivial'? You seem to think the CIA has magical powers or something. How do "stealth drones" sabotage a rocket? Did they use magical rays? Invisible robots? What? It was dumb luck that the windows security hole existed that allowed stuxnet to propagate without using a network.
April 13. 2012 Juch 101Message ends.
DPRK's Satellite Fails to Enter Its Orbit
Pyongyang, April 13 (KCNA) -- The DPRK launched its first application satellite Kwangmyongsong-3 at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station in Cholsan County, North Phyongan Province at 07:38:55 a.m. on Friday.
The earth observation satellite failed to enter its preset orbit.
Scientists, technicians and experts are now looking into the cause of the failure.
The dear respected Kim Jong Un received congratulatory letters from the offices of the World Food Programme and the United Nations Development Programme and a floral basket from the Nigerian embassy here on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of President Kim Il Sung.posted by Nelson at 8:54 AM on April 14, 2012
They were separately handed over to officials concerned on Friday.
Well, it would have been reasonably possible, although not trivial, to destroy a missile launched from a known place at a known time from a small country like NK if we had one of these in operation.Okay, but again we're talking about making it appear to fail on it's own. Destroying it outright wouldn't have been difficult at all.
The DPRK took steps to show the sincerity and transparency of the satellite launch for peaceful purposes to the maximum from A to Z as an exception and aroused sympathy of broad world public.DPRK's Satellites for Peaceful Purposes to Continue Orbiting Space: KCST Spokesman
The U.S., finding it hard to conceal the truth, after hatching all sorts of dastardly trick to prevent the peaceful nature of the DPRK's satellite launch from being confirmed objectively and persistently term it a long-range missile launch, imposed upon the UNSC its brigandish demand that the DPRK should not be allowed to launch even a satellite for peaceful purposes.
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