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October 15, 2001 12:28 PM   Subscribe

Hillary tries to run a security check point if John Q Public were to attempt this, what do you think would happen?
posted by DBAPaul (27 comments total)

 
Shouldn't a Senator lead by example? I'm wondering about the nature of the county police officer's shoulder injury.
posted by DBAPaul at 12:32 PM on October 15, 2001


if John Q Public were to attempt this, what do you think would happen?

The news certainly wouldn't make drudgereport!
posted by Rastafari at 12:32 PM on October 15, 2001


Don't get your panties in a bunch -- I don't think Sen. Clinton was driving.
posted by barkingmoose at 12:33 PM on October 15, 2001


Very misleading (reactionary) tag line. If you actually read the story, it was one car in her motorcade. Not only does Mrs. Clinton not drive her own car, but her car might not have been the car involved.
posted by yesster at 12:39 PM on October 15, 2001


barkingmoose: Probably not, but I hope she makes a public apology and explains why people working under her orders would behave in such a dangerously autocratic manner and put many innocent people in very real jeopardy (like anyone within shooting range of the incident), and in fact, harm a person who is simply doing their job.
posted by nobody_knose at 12:48 PM on October 15, 2001


First, Troll, "Hillary" didn't do anything. Second, if John Q. Public were to try it, they'd probably have been shot at--and rightly so.

As much as I'm sure you'd love to see "Hillary" taken out, I think we should show a little more restraint with United States Senators than with unknowns.
posted by jpoulos at 12:49 PM on October 15, 2001


i need more info. what the hell is this story saying? a guy got hurt by some evil senator's entourage while trying to do his job but hilary is OK?
posted by darth_smoothies at 12:58 PM on October 15, 2001


Rep. Watts Apologetic for Airport Outburst Oklahoma Republican Congressman got hot under the collar several weeks ago.
posted by Carol Anne at 12:59 PM on October 15, 2001


jpoulos: what kind of restraint you are suggesting - are you asking for a news blackout on embarrassing incidents involving "United States Senators"?
posted by nobody_knose at 1:00 PM on October 15, 2001


You misunderstand. I meant that I hope we wouldn't go shooting at a Senator's car. I'm glad this incident was reported in the paper, and I hope the Senator issues an apology.
posted by jpoulos at 1:07 PM on October 15, 2001


yesster: I read the story. Of course Hillary doesn't drive her own car, yes her car might not have been the car involved. But,


jpoulos: It wasn't meant as a "Troll", I have no desire to see Senator Hillary taken out. I tend to believe that her motorcade was under her control.
posted by DBAPaul at 1:08 PM on October 15, 2001


That does it, I am convinced of the point that you are making by posting this. I will now change my course of action.
posted by Outlawyr at 1:09 PM on October 15, 2001


Total troll. Anyone who thinks that big media is biased and weblogs are a great source of reporting should read postings like this now and then (and there are tons of them) for a reality check.
posted by beefula at 1:34 PM on October 15, 2001


The article linked to totally sucks. It describes nothing. All we have is a rumor that we're forced to speculate about. If John Q Public had done what??? We have no idea what happened. Just because news12.com decides to post random gossip doesn't mean we should link to it as news.

Once you can find something with the facts of the occurrence I'll be happy to react to it. But what is the point of linking to this piece of crap?
posted by y6y6y6 at 1:35 PM on October 15, 2001


This is a good example of the hyperbolic rephrasing of ambiguous news events that are a specialty of the far left and far right press. Their life's work is in forwarding whatever agenda they are supporting, and they use every tidbit of gossip they can in feeding their particular fire. Those of us trying to be objective and trying to make sense of this crazy world cannot help but be frustrated by this kind of hyperbole. It's not a troll (but maybe still not a good post) to wonder what kind of arrogance, confusion or obliviousness made some someone somewhere in her motorcade do something to raise the ire of the checkpoint staff. But it is a troll to say that Hilary ran a checkpoint.
posted by dness2 at 1:50 PM on October 15, 2001


A security team stopping at a mandatory security checkpoint--ha!
posted by espada at 1:51 PM on October 15, 2001


Carol Anne, thank you for the Watts post. i despise that corrupt SOB.
posted by tolkhan at 1:53 PM on October 15, 2001


I tend to believe that her motorcade was under her control.

You think she ordered the security officers in another car to blow through a checkpoint? That micromanaging bitch!
posted by rcade at 2:13 PM on October 15, 2001


As much as I'm sure you'd love to see "Hillary" taken out, I think we should show a little more restraint with United States Senators than with unknowns.

Yes, jpoulos we should bow down to our politicol masters. Right now a million or so lightbulbs are going off in the minds of potentially deadly people. "Tell them I'm with the Senator and run them over if they get in the way."

Terrorist claims to be Bob Hope's nurse, rides plane for free. Witnesses claim he looked like a nurse and that they like Bob Hope a whole of a hell lot.
posted by skallas at 3:24 PM on October 15, 2001


Skallas, did you read my second comment? I'm not talking about special privileges here. My point was:

A. If some guy (John Q. Public) tries to bust through a security point, it makes sense that authorities might use force to stop him, as we don't know who they are or what their intentions are.
B. If a senator's car does the same, the authorities might "show some restraint", and not shoot at it, as you can be pretty sure that the Senator is not a friggin' terrorist.

All this in response to DBA's original question "if John Q Public were to attempt this, what do you think would happen?"

I'm sorry if that wasn't clear, but, Jeez!
posted by jpoulos at 4:24 PM on October 15, 2001


whats funny, when slick willy came to my town, a trucker was killed by a hastily put up road block for the motorcade.
posted by newnameintown at 4:25 PM on October 15, 2001


I'm sure some people would hold him responsible for that. He is the commander-in-chief after all.
posted by dness2 at 4:38 PM on October 15, 2001


nope. secret service takes the heat and the guy was technically at fault. though a friend kept on driving when cars where being stopped. state bulls an two big tahoe looking things finally got him over.talk about about a grillin. the feds got real nervous(supposedly) when they found out he was ex-military...looked in his trunk,his wallet, his everyrecordtheycouldgetin30seconds. he was cool with it and complimented them on vigilance. it is the job of the guys to stop idiots and criminals alike.
posted by newnameintown at 7:06 PM on October 15, 2001


If a senator's car does the same, the authorities might "show some restraint", and not shoot at it, as you can be pretty sure that the Senator is not a friggin' terrorist.


First of all its not the Senator's car its her entourage which consists of more than a few people and multiple vehicles.

as you can be pretty sure that the Senator is not a friggin' terrorist.


Second, that's a safe bet, but what if someone infiltrated her entourage and because of her handler's disregard of security allowed a real nasty in the airport.

Her security people bumped heads with local minimum wage type airport security. Looks like her security guard ego nonsense. With friends like these...
posted by skallas at 8:52 PM on October 15, 2001


newname, are you sober?
And I thought this alterego was dead..

Now what were you saying about the dead trucker who was polite when they pulled him over?
posted by dness2 at 11:32 PM on October 15, 2001


I can't believe I'm actually having this discussion, but...

skallas: in a hypothetical situation (since we have no details on what actually happened in this case) do you think that the "minimum wage type airport security" should feel free to start firing on a senator's entourage? Seems to me that's a pretty reliable way to get taken out by the Secret Service.

what if someone infiltrated her entourage and because of her handler's disregard of security allowed a real nasty in the airport.

And what if it wasn't the senator at all, but a extra-terrestrial replicant, like in Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

My god, I'm not suggesting that these officials should be treated with impunity--not at all. I just think that suggesting a US Senator's motorcade the same way we'd treat an unidentified "John Q. Public" is ludicrous.
posted by jpoulos at 8:36 AM on October 16, 2001


Well, first it wasn't a "minimum wage type airport security," but a 19-year veteran of the Westchester County Police Department. Second, it was a misunderstanding caused by the officers not being consistent with directions to the vehicle. Third, it was apparently the vehicle of Sen. Clinton, and not another in her entourage.

Have an update at The Washington Times.
posted by dwivian at 11:31 AM on October 16, 2001


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