Epithet
April 19, 2012 3:11 PM Subscribe
Epithet a short film starring Patrick Stewart as a lecherous poet (nsfw).
Part of the Young Vic Shorts series.
Part of the Young Vic Shorts series.
Alright, obviously... someone's going to quote his role in "Extras". Go ahead, get on with it then.
posted by hincandenza at 3:41 PM on April 19, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by hincandenza at 3:41 PM on April 19, 2012 [4 favorites]
Extras? No, I was expecting a monologue on the erotic potential of cakes that show women going to the bathroom.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 3:48 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 3:48 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
... And then all of her clothes fall off.
posted by littlesq at 3:59 PM on April 19, 2012 [7 favorites]
posted by littlesq at 3:59 PM on April 19, 2012 [7 favorites]
If Woody Allen had written a teleplay for an eipsode of Law & Order, that's pretty much how I'd figure it would end - but not without Stewart's character name-dropping Pinter during the opening scene.
posted by Smart Dalek at 4:07 PM on April 19, 2012
posted by Smart Dalek at 4:07 PM on April 19, 2012
When I have plucked thy rose. I cannot give it vital growth again!
posted by bicyclefish at 4:24 PM on April 19, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by bicyclefish at 4:24 PM on April 19, 2012 [1 favorite]
For someone who has actually done some interesting queer work, I could do without the casual homophobia in this little piece of faux shock
posted by PinkMoose at 4:25 PM on April 19, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by PinkMoose at 4:25 PM on April 19, 2012 [1 favorite]
...but it's too late! I've seen everything.
posted by zardoz at 4:41 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by zardoz at 4:41 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
I could do without the casual homophobia in this little piece of faux shock
This kinda shit seriously chaps my ass. Deride the piece on it's merits, or lack thereof (which you've done in a quite lazy manner) but do not deign to tell the artist that how he's told the story includes extraneous elements based on your narrow conceptions. There was nothing fucking "casual" about the homophobia presented here, it was paired with furious anger, misguided intent and flagrant and unprompted violence. That sort of language is violence and therefore the situation points up how the mindset of the homophobe is disconnected from logical action and rational thought.
Were you offended by the use of racial slurs in movies like "Crash"? IS it okay if it's further in the past? Would nigger be appropriate in your eyes if it were a piece on the Civil War? Prescriptions like that quietly imply that things like racism and homophobia are things of and in the past and, I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but in my experience that is really not so.
It's a story told in the real world with real language. Should I even mention that the "casual" homophobia insulted your delicate sensibilities but the "casual" misogyny is apparently totes okay with you? Well, there, I have.
If you'd like to involve the community in a discussion of artistic decisions vis a vis dialogue choices, that'd be awesome, but this throw away, one line crap is just weak sauce parading as outrage.
posted by mikoroshi at 5:15 PM on April 19, 2012 [10 favorites]
This kinda shit seriously chaps my ass. Deride the piece on it's merits, or lack thereof (which you've done in a quite lazy manner) but do not deign to tell the artist that how he's told the story includes extraneous elements based on your narrow conceptions. There was nothing fucking "casual" about the homophobia presented here, it was paired with furious anger, misguided intent and flagrant and unprompted violence. That sort of language is violence and therefore the situation points up how the mindset of the homophobe is disconnected from logical action and rational thought.
Were you offended by the use of racial slurs in movies like "Crash"? IS it okay if it's further in the past? Would nigger be appropriate in your eyes if it were a piece on the Civil War? Prescriptions like that quietly imply that things like racism and homophobia are things of and in the past and, I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but in my experience that is really not so.
It's a story told in the real world with real language. Should I even mention that the "casual" homophobia insulted your delicate sensibilities but the "casual" misogyny is apparently totes okay with you? Well, there, I have.
If you'd like to involve the community in a discussion of artistic decisions vis a vis dialogue choices, that'd be awesome, but this throw away, one line crap is just weak sauce parading as outrage.
posted by mikoroshi at 5:15 PM on April 19, 2012 [10 favorites]
This kinda shit seriously chaps my ass. Deride the piece on it's merits, or lack thereof (which you've done in a quite lazy manner) but do not deign to tell the artist that how he's told the story includes extraneous elements based on your narrow conceptions.
You know, PinkMoose actually has a right to his or her opinion. Sorry if it chaps your ass, but if they didn't like somebody tossing out a homophobic epithet around at the end, they can express the fact.
And the fact they chose to complain about homophobia instead of misogyny -- which they may not feel the piece expresses (after all, the misogynist gets punished) -- doesn't mean they aren't concerned about the subject.
The character doesn't actually need to call the other character a homophobic epithet. I suppose a case can be made that it serves a dramatic function, but, then, viewers may disagree.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 5:25 PM on April 19, 2012
You know, PinkMoose actually has a right to his or her opinion. Sorry if it chaps your ass, but if they didn't like somebody tossing out a homophobic epithet around at the end, they can express the fact.
And the fact they chose to complain about homophobia instead of misogyny -- which they may not feel the piece expresses (after all, the misogynist gets punished) -- doesn't mean they aren't concerned about the subject.
The character doesn't actually need to call the other character a homophobic epithet. I suppose a case can be made that it serves a dramatic function, but, then, viewers may disagree.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 5:25 PM on April 19, 2012
I could do without the casual homophobia in this little piece of faux shock
I could be wrong, but I rather think that (along with other words spoken) is addressed in the title of the piece?
posted by smirkette at 5:27 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
I could be wrong, but I rather think that (along with other words spoken) is addressed in the title of the piece?
posted by smirkette at 5:27 PM on April 19, 2012 [2 favorites]
Based on the title, I was totally expecting something like his role on Extras, as others have already mentioned.
This was more interesting, but I'm not entirely sure what to make of it.
posted by asnider at 5:50 PM on April 19, 2012
This was more interesting, but I'm not entirely sure what to make of it.
posted by asnider at 5:50 PM on April 19, 2012
Not so excited about the violence and jerkishness, but hearing Patrick Stewart say (in his Patrick Stewart voice) "I'm offering you my bed" was pretty much the best thing that happened to me today. Is reverse objectification an ok antidote to misogyny? *sigh*
posted by vytae at 11:06 PM on April 19, 2012
posted by vytae at 11:06 PM on April 19, 2012
Mod note: A couple of comments deleted; feel free to express your own opinion without piling on and insulting other members for civilly expressing their personal point of view.
posted by taz (staff) at 12:41 AM on April 20, 2012
posted by taz (staff) at 12:41 AM on April 20, 2012
Well I thought that was totally awesome, epithets and all.
posted by XMLicious at 6:27 AM on April 20, 2012
posted by XMLicious at 6:27 AM on April 20, 2012
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