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	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:22:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 11529</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.inside.com/product/product.asp?entity=localhost&amp;pf_ID=AA8776FD-207C-4260-876B-4D91DCB3EB38"&gt;Brill&apos;s Content folds.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Brill&apos;s Content and Inside.com, the church lady and swinging single of the myopic media world who got hitched in April, have been closed, victims of terrible publishing and Web economies and a strained relationship between Steven Brill and his major backer, Primedia.&quot;
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:06:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schmedeman</dc:creator>		<category>BrillsContent</category>		<category>magazines</category>		<category>webzines</category>		<category>StevenBrill</category>
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		<title>By: ethmar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156586</link>	
		<description>I honor all inside.com coupons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:22:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: silusGROK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156598</link>	
		<description>What a great article! Cheeky tone only underscores author&apos;s current position as erstwhile employee... wonder if this sort of candor is indicative of the publication&apos;s style pre-dissolution?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:39:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: das_2099</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156603</link>	
		<description>V1s10n-
Yes, actually. see letters from the Ombudsman in any of the existing editions. merciless attacking of the magazine, from an employee.

It was great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:54:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: genapathy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156616</link>	
		<description>What a shame, I was really looking forward to the next issue of Brills. I felt certain that there would be some great behind the scenes articles on the reporting of the 9/11 attacks. The change to a quarterly format could have given the editors plenty of time to dig deep and come up with some interesting perspectives. 
The Inside.com article hit the nail on the head by detailing the lack of a strong niche for Brills Content. By providing balanced and strong coverage of the Media the magazine defiantly filled a void in my reading and it will be missed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:24:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrbula</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156639</link>	
		<description>Well, this sucks.  It&apos;s too bad this had to happen in the first place, but it&apos;s even worse considering we&apos;re entering a period when detailed, articulate criticism of media coverage will be damn near essential.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:54:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aj100</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156641</link>	
		<description>That sucks.  I want my money back.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:56:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wsfinkel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156651</link>	
		<description>Agreed with all completely.  We desperately need the incisive commentary of Content more than ever when the media is acting as more of a &apos;fourth branch of government, rather than a fourth estate&apos; (not sure who I&apos;m quoting, but I know I didn&apos;t make that phrase up).  Brill&apos;s was by far my favorite magazine, and I will desperately miss its stories.  I also think I owe a kudos to Brill&apos;s as it was in their magazine that I was first made aware of this website, my favorite place online.  I&apos;m very upset about this development.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:07:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: warhol</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156664</link>	
		<description>Augh! One of the few magazines which I genuinely looked forward to whenever it arrived in my mailbox. And I loved the new quarterly size of the publication.

Sigh. I&apos;ll sorely miss the publication. I&apos;ve been a faithful subscriber since the first couple of issues. It was especially nice because the magazine wasn&apos;t afraid to be critical - of both others, and, perhaps more importantly, itself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:22:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: silusGROK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156683</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re looking for incisive commentary on the state of the media... minus the ads... don&apos;t forget about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onthemedia.org&quot; target=&quot;NewWindow&quot;&gt;On the Media&lt;/a&gt;, brought to you by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.NPR.org&quot; target=&quot;NewWindow&quot; title=&quot;Hey folks! It&apos;s time to pay for all that great listening: it&apos;s the fall fund drive!&quot;&gt;NPR&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:47:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spork</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156687</link>	
		<description>I couldn&apos;t have writen this if Brill&apos;s Content hadn&apos;t put Metafilter on its cover. I wouldn&apos;t have heard about how it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:52:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mmascolino</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156766</link>	
		<description>yeah likewise, Content turned me onto MeFi as well.  I wonder how much traffic was driven to MeFi because of the cover story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:27:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LeLiLo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156774</link>	
		<description>me too for MeFi -- thanks to Brill&apos;s Content. And I am grateful. 

(p.s. What magazine do you think will next put noble leader Matt on the cover?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:38:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156796</link>	
		<description>The magazine made a huge strategic mistake when it decided to run an &quot;expos&#233;&quot; of Kenneth Starr as the cover story of its first issue, while Clinton&apos;s impeachment was drawing near. It instantly made conservatives believe the magazine was just another liberal apologist publication, and refused to ever purchase it. Which is sad, because it really wasn&apos;t particularly ideological, but it was unbelievably stupid of them to run anything in that highly-publicized premiere issue that had even a small chance of coming off as politically biased.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:12:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156805</link>	
		<description>aaron: I think you&apos;re reading way too much into that. Basically, the audience for this sort of thing just wasn&apos;t as large as Brill hoped it was. It wasn&apos;t taken very seriously by the &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; journalism review community, and it wasn&apos;t able to make the crucial newsstand sales issue after issue. There was a line in an article about them earlier this year that was a bit cutting, but had some truth in it: &lt;i&gt;They were writing for people who wanted to &lt;b&gt;think&lt;/b&gt; they were media insiders.&lt;/i&gt;

This continues my tradition of subscribing for ridiculously long periods to failing magazines. My five years of &lt;i&gt;Spy&lt;/i&gt; (when it was last resurrected: hey, it was cheaper than no-brand hot dogs!) became &lt;i&gt;P.O.V.&lt;/i&gt; became &lt;i&gt;GQ&lt;/i&gt;. My four years of some forgotten industry rag became some PC-World like thing became &lt;i&gt;Maximum PC&lt;/i&gt; -- which I actually like a lot. I wonder what they&apos;ll send me for the remainder of my &lt;i&gt;Brill&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; subscription?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:29:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vito90</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156846</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wonder what they&apos;ll send me for the remainder of my Brill&apos;s subscription?&lt;/i&gt;

The Industry Standard?  Oh wait, nevermind...

I learned of Metafilter through Brill&apos;s Content as well.  I never subscribed, but bought every issue for the last year and a half.  I very much enjoyed it.

In some way, in some form, Brill will be back.  Like him or not, he&apos;s a born entrepreneur.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:46:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156857</link>	
		<description>I only got good vibes from Brill&apos;s Content towards the end when they revamped their format (and did a feature on Mefi); earlier, the publication was arrogant...comme Brill.

The ParisParamus Axiom:  if you find something especially, surprisingly good, it will not last.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:19:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pinto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#156939</link>	
		<description>i like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poynter.org&quot;&gt;poynter.org&lt;/a&gt;. i will now go back into hiding.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:29:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidmsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#157016</link>	
		<description>Echo many of you:  BC was my favorite among many regular reads...and the new format was great; I was really looking forward to the second issue in the qtrly format, too.  If they had only told us how bad things were, biz-wise, and suggested a new cover price &amp; subscribe rate, I would have gladly paid much more $$$ to keep it coming, esp. the new qtrly format.  I would have gone as high as $20 or $25 per issue -- wonder how many people paying that much would have saved it...(sigh)...say, maybe we can get  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poynter.org/medianews&quot;&gt;Jim Romenesko&lt;/a&gt; to publish a hard-copy every now &amp; then...!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:12:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kerplunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#157035</link>	
		<description>I liked Brill&apos;s Content, even though I don&apos;t live in the US it was a fascinating read. Unfortunately Mr Clever decided to subscribe to it only this summer and only ever received one issue...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:14:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: me3dia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#157336</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Brill&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; was good at times, vindictive at others, and generally flailing around the rest of the time. &lt;i&gt;Columbia Journalism Review&lt;/i&gt; was and still is my favorite source for media crit and reflection. 

What really soured me on Brill was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.contentville.com&quot;&gt;Contentville &lt;/a&gt;-- the fact that this supposed watchdog for and of the press turned around and started reselling content without regard to who created it, I found apalling. Brill&apos;s policy changed after the writers&apos; union jumped all over him, but the damage to  his already shaky reputation was done.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:37:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/11529/#157414</link>	
		<description>Brill&apos;s Folds One.

I&apos;m gonna miss it, have every ish especially the one with our own Cover Boy!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:10:12 -0800</pubDate>
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