My Life in the Bush Of Ghosts - Pre-release Version
June 12, 2012 8:48 AM Subscribe
[This] "is a pre release version of david byrnes first solo album, which was given me by david, when i stayed at his place in alfabet city, in 1981 [...] anyway, the final release differed a lot from this tape, because he used quotes from the quoran in this version, which he had to replace later. i dont know if this version was ever released in any way, shape or form." My Life in the Bush Of Ghosts, David Byrne and Brian Eno
I wonder who "the mad taper" is that s/he chatted with Ian McDonald and knew people at Alfa Records in Japan. The blogger profile is empty.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:03 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by filthy light thief at 9:03 AM on June 12, 2012
Also: could anyone get the Jumbofiles link to work? I was greeted with a lot of shady "download here/now" graphics that lead to 3rd party apps download apps or pop-up ads.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:04 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by filthy light thief at 9:04 AM on June 12, 2012
My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is a masterpiece in my view.
For fans of the album that want even further alternate takes (or want to make some themselves), original source tracks and community remixes are available online.
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:05 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
For fans of the album that want even further alternate takes (or want to make some themselves), original source tracks and community remixes are available online.
posted by mcstayinskool at 9:05 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
The RS links are working for the moment. I'm pulling down the first tape, it's going to take about an hour.
Is Byrne (Geffen?) likely to look kindly on this?
posted by snuffleupagus at 9:07 AM on June 12, 2012
Is Byrne (Geffen?) likely to look kindly on this?
posted by snuffleupagus at 9:07 AM on June 12, 2012
Rhino, not Geffen.
posted by snuffleupagus at 9:08 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by snuffleupagus at 9:08 AM on June 12, 2012
I already started tape one on Rapidshare. Can someone start tape two?
posted by benito.strauss at 9:10 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by benito.strauss at 9:10 AM on June 12, 2012
Also, Holy Sheet. Thanks, xod.
posted by benito.strauss at 9:11 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by benito.strauss at 9:11 AM on June 12, 2012
I have a kind of idiosyncratic method to buying albums (LPs). So while I have a LOT of music in various forms I've only ~100 or so albums. I buy albums when I want to listen to the music in as high quality format as I can, when I actually want to listen to the music and it is not in the background as something cool, or pleasant or just filler.
MLITBOG is near the top of the 100, and an album I will buy upon occasion to give to people who really like music... even if they don't have a record player yet, in order to inspire then to get one.
posted by edgeways at 9:13 AM on June 12, 2012
MLITBOG is near the top of the 100, and an album I will buy upon occasion to give to people who really like music... even if they don't have a record player yet, in order to inspire then to get one.
posted by edgeways at 9:13 AM on June 12, 2012
The Jumbofiles link is working for me.
posted by Glomar response at 9:14 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by Glomar response at 9:14 AM on June 12, 2012
Also, Holy Sheet. Thanks, xod.
posted by Glomar response at 9:15 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Glomar response at 9:15 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Is Byrne (Geffen?) likely to look kindly on this?
Byrne is overall pretty kind to non-commercial/political use of his music without permission. At a wild stab of a guess I'd venture that he'd be ok with it. The record label? Dunno.
posted by edgeways at 9:15 AM on June 12, 2012
Jumbofiles is working for me, if slowly. I had to jump-through about two screens before I got to the actual download link, but all I saw were come-ons to buy their high-speed service. No warez ads or popups (yay AdBlock)
posted by Thorzdad at 9:17 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by Thorzdad at 9:17 AM on June 12, 2012
Yeah, Jumbofiles works for me, too. I clicked through two screens, then clicked a little "Download" button that gave birth to a shady pop-under. I closed the pop-under with some ALT-F4 action and then clicked the "Download" button again, which seemed to finally start the file download. It's coming down s-l-o-w-l-y.
posted by Joey Bagels at 9:22 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by Joey Bagels at 9:22 AM on June 12, 2012
mcstayinskool: Oh, and the album has also been remastered.
Wikipedia currently states (without citation) that the remaster suffers from dynamic compression. At least one fan thinks the original version sounds better than the remaster.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:26 AM on June 12, 2012
Wikipedia currently states (without citation) that the remaster suffers from dynamic compression. At least one fan thinks the original version sounds better than the remaster.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:26 AM on June 12, 2012
> MLITBOG is ... an album I will buy upon occasion to give to people who really like music... even if they don't have a record player yet, in order to inspire then to get one.
Srsly? "I am giving you this $20 gift that you will have to spend an extra few hundred bucks to listen to because I've spent the few hundred extra bucks and think you should, too"?
posted by scruss at 9:27 AM on June 12, 2012
Srsly? "I am giving you this $20 gift that you will have to spend an extra few hundred bucks to listen to because I've spent the few hundred extra bucks and think you should, too"?
posted by scruss at 9:27 AM on June 12, 2012
Joey Bagels: Yeah, Jumbofiles works for me, too. I clicked through two screens, then clicked a little "Download" button that gave birth to a shady pop-under. I closed the pop-under with some ALT-F4 action and then clicked the "Download" button again, which seemed to finally start the file download. It's coming down s-l-o-w-l-y.
Thanks to you and other folks who said it worked. I'm also downloading now, and it's also going slowly for me, too. At this rate, the individual WAVs might get downloaded faster.
Someone should tell this chappie about FLAC or other lossless compression methods, if not set up a mirror of torrents. Lots of interesting tapes on the blog.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:28 AM on June 12, 2012
Thanks to you and other folks who said it worked. I'm also downloading now, and it's also going slowly for me, too. At this rate, the individual WAVs might get downloaded faster.
Someone should tell this chappie about FLAC or other lossless compression methods, if not set up a mirror of torrents. Lots of interesting tapes on the blog.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:28 AM on June 12, 2012
Srsly? "I am giving you this $20 gift that you will have to spend an extra few hundred bucks to listen to because I've spent the few hundred extra bucks and think you should, too"?
Mind you I am not giving it to people who have no interest in owning a turntable, but rather who may be on the fence, so to speak. So it is not quite a white elephant.
posted by edgeways at 9:31 AM on June 12, 2012
Mind you I am not giving it to people who have no interest in owning a turntable, but rather who may be on the fence, so to speak. So it is not quite a white elephant.
posted by edgeways at 9:31 AM on June 12, 2012
Has anyone else noticed that the current output of Brian Eno and Trent Reznor seems to be converging? You could take a lot of tracks from Small Craft on a Milk Sea and pass it off as something from Ghosts or one of the soundtracks and vice versa.
posted by Artw at 9:31 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by Artw at 9:31 AM on June 12, 2012
Does this entry (today's) say that the map taper's name is Hans DeVente?
posted by Eyebeams at 9:37 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by Eyebeams at 9:37 AM on June 12, 2012
I've got an original CD edition that includes "Qu'ran". I don't think it's all that rare.
posted by davebush at 9:44 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by davebush at 9:44 AM on June 12, 2012
This has been all over bittorrent. Here's one link.
posted by VikingSword at 9:45 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by VikingSword at 9:45 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
I love Bush of Ghosts, but I think I'm a bit more excited by the endless reams of XTC demos he's been posting (and yes, I have all the box sets and Andy's Fuzzy Warbles series, etc).
posted by mykescipark at 9:46 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by mykescipark at 9:46 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
I've got an original CD edition that includes "Qu'ran". I don't think it's all that rare.
Indeed. All sorts of versions including a couple with the Koran track are out there on bittorrent too.
posted by VikingSword at 9:46 AM on June 12, 2012
Indeed. All sorts of versions including a couple with the Koran track are out there on bittorrent too.
posted by VikingSword at 9:46 AM on June 12, 2012
For me, the primary interest (as opposed to the '92 bootleg and the '06 release bonus tracks) is the 4 dropped tracks included here.
posted by xod at 9:58 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by xod at 9:58 AM on June 12, 2012
"My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" is good, but it is not David Byrne's first solo album. It's an album by Brian Eno and David Byrne together. This is pretty much David Byrne's first proper solo album, and it's very good – not as good as his self-titled record a few years later, but very good. However, I am one of those odd people who prefer David Byrne's solo work to the Talking Heads, so who knows.
posted by koeselitz at 10:03 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by koeselitz at 10:03 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
The record label? Dunno.
Not that we shouldn't expect it of them, but it would only be stupid of the record label to make any kind of deal of this. Classic yet mostly not that well known album suddenly gets talked about a lot on line, people mentioning it's being remastered and everything. Free advertising all the way.
Honestly, the "Qu'ran" track is really a lame exercise in orientalism and othering. Ooh, it's in a foreign language!
Early, early days of sampling. Coming down on it hard is akin to coming down on too much wah-wah pedal on a 1967 psychedelic album. It was the cool new thing of the moment. You mean you can just take some random vocal chant and build a song around it? Holy shit! For the record, Brian Eno credits Holger Czukay with doing it first.
posted by philip-random at 10:04 AM on June 12, 2012 [3 favorites]
Not that we shouldn't expect it of them, but it would only be stupid of the record label to make any kind of deal of this. Classic yet mostly not that well known album suddenly gets talked about a lot on line, people mentioning it's being remastered and everything. Free advertising all the way.
Honestly, the "Qu'ran" track is really a lame exercise in orientalism and othering. Ooh, it's in a foreign language!
Early, early days of sampling. Coming down on it hard is akin to coming down on too much wah-wah pedal on a 1967 psychedelic album. It was the cool new thing of the moment. You mean you can just take some random vocal chant and build a song around it? Holy shit! For the record, Brian Eno credits Holger Czukay with doing it first.
posted by philip-random at 10:04 AM on June 12, 2012 [3 favorites]
Burhanistan, this may interest you: Entangled Complicities in the Prehistory of "World Music": Poul Rovsing Olsen and Jean Jenkins Encounter Brian Eno and David Byrne in the Bush of Ghosts
posted by xod at 10:05 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by xod at 10:05 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
Honestly, the "Qu'ran" track is really a lame exercise in orientalism and othering. Ooh, it's in a foreign language!
Much of the magic from this album stems from the juxtaposition of elements, especially the use of out-of-context voices. I don't see that track as inferior - it's got great groove and mystery.
posted by davebush at 10:06 AM on June 12, 2012 [3 favorites]
Much of the magic from this album stems from the juxtaposition of elements, especially the use of out-of-context voices. I don't see that track as inferior - it's got great groove and mystery.
posted by davebush at 10:06 AM on June 12, 2012 [3 favorites]
Someone should tell this chappie about FLAC or other lossless compression methods
From his latest blog entry it looks like there's a mate of his turning some of the tapes into flac encoded torrents and posting them to demonoid.
I actually have MLITBOG in my (somewhat less impressive) wall of hand-labelled cassettes (via the original pirate bay, or public lending library as it was also known).
Say what you will about Eno, but as Byrne collaborators go he's no fatboy slim.
posted by titus-g at 10:09 AM on June 12, 2012
From his latest blog entry it looks like there's a mate of his turning some of the tapes into flac encoded torrents and posting them to demonoid.
I actually have MLITBOG in my (somewhat less impressive) wall of hand-labelled cassettes (via the original pirate bay, or public lending library as it was also known).
Say what you will about Eno, but as Byrne collaborators go he's no fatboy slim.
posted by titus-g at 10:09 AM on June 12, 2012
Let's not forget "The Catherine Wheel". Great album.
posted by davebush at 10:09 AM on June 12, 2012 [7 favorites]
posted by davebush at 10:09 AM on June 12, 2012 [7 favorites]
I want to take "othering" outside, kerb it, douse it in gasoline and set it on fire.
posted by nathancaswell at 10:16 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by nathancaswell at 10:16 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
I am very much looking forward to these outtakes. I really liked the unfinished "Remain In Light" tracks that came out later.
That couple of years where the 70's prog/art-rockers blurred into the 80's are really interesting: Fripp, Eno, Belew, Byrne, Bowie, Gabriel, Gilmour/Bush. All sorts of interesting cross pollinations going on.
posted by jetsetsc at 10:20 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
That couple of years where the 70's prog/art-rockers blurred into the 80's are really interesting: Fripp, Eno, Belew, Byrne, Bowie, Gabriel, Gilmour/Bush. All sorts of interesting cross pollinations going on.
posted by jetsetsc at 10:20 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
For the record, Brian Eno credits Holger Czukay with doing it first.
I'm quoting you just to get Holger Czukay's name into the thread a couple more times.
posted by pracowity at 10:24 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
I'm quoting you just to get Holger Czukay's name into the thread a couple more times.
posted by pracowity at 10:24 AM on June 12, 2012 [4 favorites]
Adrian Belew is the unsung hero of that era - just watch him in this King Crimson performance on ABC's SNL knock-off "Fridays".
posted by davebush at 10:26 AM on June 12, 2012 [7 favorites]
posted by davebush at 10:26 AM on June 12, 2012 [7 favorites]
titus-g: "Say what you will about Eno, but as Byrne collaborators go he's no fatboy slim."
I presume that's a joke?
Just checking.
posted by Red Loop at 10:30 AM on June 12, 2012
I presume that's a joke?
Just checking.
posted by Red Loop at 10:30 AM on June 12, 2012
Ooh, it's in a foreign language!
Funny. I often think that, and non-sarcastically too.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:43 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Funny. I often think that, and non-sarcastically too.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:43 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Red Loop: I presume that's a joke?.
An attempt at one, anyway. I did wonder whether to include an </handburgler>* tag...
Although, for what it's worth, I quite enjoyed the 'Here Lies Love' album.
* Sandman like entity that creeps into your room at night and steals your hands if you are wrong on the internet.
posted by titus-g at 10:55 AM on June 12, 2012
An attempt at one, anyway. I did wonder whether to include an </handburgler>* tag...
Although, for what it's worth, I quite enjoyed the 'Here Lies Love' album.
* Sandman like entity that creeps into your room at night and steals your hands if you are wrong on the internet.
posted by titus-g at 10:55 AM on June 12, 2012
davebush, I remember seeing that "Fridays" performance live.....just after "Discipline" came out. My brother and I had been assuming that all the cool guitar stuff on that record was by Fripp, then we got our minds blown....
posted by thelonius at 10:56 AM on June 12, 2012
posted by thelonius at 10:56 AM on June 12, 2012
I usually get stumped with the Desert Island Disc thing—how many albums can take that level of repetition and unbroken focus?—but MLITBOG would make the cut. That infinitely dense dot that exploded to (in)form so much modern music. Based on a few of the bonus cuts on the rerelease some years back, I feel as if this was Byrne and Eno's reimagining of Fela's Shrine in a loft somewhere south of Houston Street.
And "othering"? I'm going to say that, given their work before, during and after this collaboration, both men had the nous and sophistication not to play the Exotic Other game.
posted by the sobsister at 11:00 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
And "othering"? I'm going to say that, given their work before, during and after this collaboration, both men had the nous and sophistication not to play the Exotic Other game.
posted by the sobsister at 11:00 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
That couple of years where the 70's prog/art-rockers blurred into the 80's are really interesting: Fripp, Eno, Belew, Byrne, Bowie, Gabriel, Gilmour/Bush. All sorts of interesting cross pollinations going on.
Somewhere I've got a C-90 cassette kicking around called My Life In The Bush Of Scary Disciplined Monsters (Without Frontiers) which attempted to do justice to all of this (sometime around Christmas 1981). I made it as a present for someone then decided it was way too good to give away (also, I realized she just wasn't that into me). Methinks I should go digging for it. That was indeed a profound and prolonged moment in the zeitgeist. To my ears, it started in around 1977 with Eno's Before + After Science ... and it's never really ended. We're still feeling its fractal impact in all manner of delightful ways.
posted by philip-random at 11:16 AM on June 12, 2012 [5 favorites]
Somewhere I've got a C-90 cassette kicking around called My Life In The Bush Of Scary Disciplined Monsters (Without Frontiers) which attempted to do justice to all of this (sometime around Christmas 1981). I made it as a present for someone then decided it was way too good to give away (also, I realized she just wasn't that into me). Methinks I should go digging for it. That was indeed a profound and prolonged moment in the zeitgeist. To my ears, it started in around 1977 with Eno's Before + After Science ... and it's never really ended. We're still feeling its fractal impact in all manner of delightful ways.
posted by philip-random at 11:16 AM on June 12, 2012 [5 favorites]
That's a lot of tapes.
I suspect I don't have anything in common with somebody who devotes that much shelf space to cassette tape recordings of the Live Aid concert.
aka Your favourite music sucks and you suck as a person for listening to it.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 11:28 AM on June 12, 2012
I suspect I don't have anything in common with somebody who devotes that much shelf space to cassette tape recordings of the Live Aid concert.
aka Your favourite music sucks and you suck as a person for listening to it.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 11:28 AM on June 12, 2012
Eno/Byrne borrowed the title from My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, by Amos Tutuola. The first 37 pages of that book are available as a preview online, including the namesake chapter. It's a weird little book, the tale of a boy wandering among ghosts in Africa, and a quite fitting title, I think, for an exploration of polyrhythms and sampling.
posted by twoleftfeet at 11:40 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by twoleftfeet at 11:40 AM on June 12, 2012 [2 favorites]
Holger Czukay's Der Osten Is Rot is a great complement to Bush of Ghosts, for those who like collage music. Crazy freakin' krautrocker knows his business.
Also, HOLGER CZUKAY!
posted by Aquaman at 11:50 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Also, HOLGER CZUKAY!
posted by Aquaman at 11:50 AM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't know about Mad Taper, but...
There used to be a guy who recorded shows around Baltimore, called the Baltimore Taper. He was arrested for shooting his girlfriend, with whom he had two children. It turned out he had a previous history of attempted armed robbery. HE was a mad taper. (A decent guy to talk to over email, though.)
posted by OmieWise at 11:51 AM on June 12, 2012
There used to be a guy who recorded shows around Baltimore, called the Baltimore Taper. He was arrested for shooting his girlfriend, with whom he had two children. It turned out he had a previous history of attempted armed robbery. HE was a mad taper. (A decent guy to talk to over email, though.)
posted by OmieWise at 11:51 AM on June 12, 2012
How the fuck am I supposed to judge this guy?
As M.C. Jesus (didn't) said: first post your entire album/listening collection and be judged.
posted by titus-g at 12:06 PM on June 12, 2012
As M.C. Jesus (didn't) said: first post your entire album/listening collection and be judged.
posted by titus-g at 12:06 PM on June 12, 2012
Actually, what M.C. Jesus said was "Say hello to the Killer Inside Me."
You did mean M.C. 900 Ft. Jesus, didn't you?
posted by benito.strauss at 12:11 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
You did mean M.C. 900 Ft. Jesus, didn't you?
posted by benito.strauss at 12:11 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
I suspect I don't have anything in common with somebody who devotes that much shelf space to cassette tape recordings of the Live Aid concert.
Laugh all you want, but it was nice to see Jagger and Bowie get back together again. Such a cute couple!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:01 PM on June 12, 2012
Laugh all you want, but it was nice to see Jagger and Bowie get back together again. Such a cute couple!
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:01 PM on June 12, 2012
That's a pretty funny insufferable music hipster impression, item.
posted by thelonius at 1:02 PM on June 12, 2012
posted by thelonius at 1:02 PM on June 12, 2012
For the record, Brian Eno credits Holger Czukay with doing it first.
And how. (I love that man so much.)
I was listening/reading Steven Johnson's Where Good Ideas Come From, which is fairly interesting, if occasionally way too precious, and I was surprised to find him giving Eno rather more credit than even this Eno fan thinks he deserves for the origins of sampling/mashups (see pp. 163-5). Not a single mention of Holger. Pity.
Johnson interviews Eno on innovation in the studio here.
posted by maudlin at 1:08 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
And how. (I love that man so much.)
I was listening/reading Steven Johnson's Where Good Ideas Come From, which is fairly interesting, if occasionally way too precious, and I was surprised to find him giving Eno rather more credit than even this Eno fan thinks he deserves for the origins of sampling/mashups (see pp. 163-5). Not a single mention of Holger. Pity.
Johnson interviews Eno on innovation in the studio here.
posted by maudlin at 1:08 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
thelonius - me too. I watched it live and taped it on my Sony Betamax machine. I then watched it many, many times, entranced by Fripp and Belew's guitar work. I absolutely love Belew's enthusiasm.
posted by davebush at 1:48 PM on June 12, 2012
posted by davebush at 1:48 PM on June 12, 2012
Crumbs Chiefs!
I must confess the only M.C. 900ft Jesus I've ever heard previously was his version of Tom Wait's Romeo is Bleeding from the Steps Right Up tribute album.
An angel, SAID, with a bullet :)
I am now listening to more, and loving it. :)
And hoping you weren't saying it ironically. :)
Cos, then I'd look kinda foolish :)
posted by titus-g at 2:44 PM on June 12, 2012
I must confess the only M.C. 900ft Jesus I've ever heard previously was his version of Tom Wait's Romeo is Bleeding from the Steps Right Up tribute album.
An angel, SAID, with a bullet :)
I am now listening to more, and loving it. :)
And hoping you weren't saying it ironically. :)
Cos, then I'd look kinda foolish :)
posted by titus-g at 2:44 PM on June 12, 2012
bleargh, that sounded more sarcastic than I meant.
benito: no sarcasm intended, possibly even negative; loving your wok.
item: slight but cuddly sarcasm, purely in retaliation. -- Whilst realising my original comment may be interpreted as an attack. Which it weren't.
posted by titus-g at 2:57 PM on June 12, 2012
benito: no sarcasm intended, possibly even negative; loving your wok.
item: slight but cuddly sarcasm, purely in retaliation. -- Whilst realising my original comment may be interpreted as an attack. Which it weren't.
posted by titus-g at 2:57 PM on June 12, 2012
no sarcasm intended ...
None detected, titus-g. I just used your post as an excuse to link to MC 900 Ft Jesus, which I'm glad you seem to be enjoying. (My favorite track of his is Dancing Barefoot, which didn't fit the comment as well, but better fits the music in this post)
.... loving your wok.
Just wait 'til you see my waffle iron.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:42 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
None detected, titus-g. I just used your post as an excuse to link to MC 900 Ft Jesus, which I'm glad you seem to be enjoying. (My favorite track of his is Dancing Barefoot, which didn't fit the comment as well, but better fits the music in this post)
.... loving your wok.
Just wait 'til you see my waffle iron.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:42 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Okay, well, let's get back to the tape itself. There's nothing to see here, folks, except some interesting working titles.
Lot/Into The Spirit World is the original Kathryn Kuhlman version of The Jezebel Spirit.
Iron Bed is Two Against Three on the reissue.
Breathing Once A Minute is The Carrier.
Shaking With My Voice is Very, Very Hungry.
Cunning Tendancy is Pitch to Voltage on the reissue.
Late But Serious is Number 8 Mix on the reissue.
In The Castle Of My Skin is A Secret Life.
Spirit of Prey is Come With Us.
Plus, his tape deck is apparently running a few ips fast, which makes me wonder how the rest of his cassette rips are going to come out.
posted by mykescipark at 4:53 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Lot/Into The Spirit World is the original Kathryn Kuhlman version of The Jezebel Spirit.
Iron Bed is Two Against Three on the reissue.
Breathing Once A Minute is The Carrier.
Shaking With My Voice is Very, Very Hungry.
Cunning Tendancy is Pitch to Voltage on the reissue.
Late But Serious is Number 8 Mix on the reissue.
In The Castle Of My Skin is A Secret Life.
Spirit of Prey is Come With Us.
Plus, his tape deck is apparently running a few ips fast, which makes me wonder how the rest of his cassette rips are going to come out.
posted by mykescipark at 4:53 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
titus-g, I think Romeo is Bleeding is from Blue Valentine, a timeless record with his beautiful arrangement of Somewhere.
posted by jleisek at 5:02 PM on June 12, 2012
posted by jleisek at 5:02 PM on June 12, 2012
To be honest it seemed a bit rude not to drag you into it, since you did mention 900Ft Jesus first.
Wondering if Dancing Barefoot might have been on Tjinder Singh's playlist when he/they came up with supercomputed. There's no obvious link, but there's echoes. [Although not so sure after listening to the two together.]
Slightly more back on topic: and on the topic of 'othering' in a musical context. And not to sound like a goddamn hippy: but music is most often where cultures find commonality and melange generously with each other. There are exceptions, sometimes these exceptions steal edie brickell away from me (GRRR, DAMN YOU GABRIEL!) but mostly it is about the music. Because musicians are weird that way.
The second best way to research this on a long term basis is to listen to Mary Ann Kennedy regularly. The third best is to watch a Slovenian choir, performing a song by a Los Angeles band, about the dark continent. Or Yat Kha doing In a gadda da vida. It may seem populist or indeed whorish from the outside, but mostly it is just about the music.
posted by titus-g at 5:53 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Wondering if Dancing Barefoot might have been on Tjinder Singh's playlist when he/they came up with supercomputed. There's no obvious link, but there's echoes. [Although not so sure after listening to the two together.]
Slightly more back on topic: and on the topic of 'othering' in a musical context. And not to sound like a goddamn hippy: but music is most often where cultures find commonality and melange generously with each other. There are exceptions, sometimes these exceptions steal edie brickell away from me (GRRR, DAMN YOU GABRIEL!) but mostly it is about the music. Because musicians are weird that way.
The second best way to research this on a long term basis is to listen to Mary Ann Kennedy regularly. The third best is to watch a Slovenian choir, performing a song by a Los Angeles band, about the dark continent. Or Yat Kha doing In a gadda da vida. It may seem populist or indeed whorish from the outside, but mostly it is just about the music.
posted by titus-g at 5:53 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
sometimes these exceptions steal edie brickell away from me (GRRR, DAMN YOU GABRIEL!)
Um... I have no idea what this means, but if you're referring to Peter Gabriel, you might be relieved to hear that Brickell is coupled with Paul Simon.
posted by hippybear at 7:07 PM on June 12, 2012
Um... I have no idea what this means, but if you're referring to Peter Gabriel, you might be relieved to hear that Brickell is coupled with Paul Simon.
posted by hippybear at 7:07 PM on June 12, 2012
I just realized I have three different versions of MLITBOG, one from the original CD release, one of the remaster/extension of the album, and one which is ripped from vinyl. They all have plusses and minuses to offer, which is why I have three of them. I guess I might have four soon, if I pursue these links.
What I think is fascinating is how much the public mind has shifted about music since this album first came out. It used to be useful as a clear-the-house album when it was time for the party to be over. Now it's nearly mainstream. I like to think the fact of its existence is what pulled the mainstream in that direction over the decades, as it is obviously one of those albums that many who have shaped music in the intervening years drew inspiration from.
posted by hippybear at 7:34 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
What I think is fascinating is how much the public mind has shifted about music since this album first came out. It used to be useful as a clear-the-house album when it was time for the party to be over. Now it's nearly mainstream. I like to think the fact of its existence is what pulled the mainstream in that direction over the decades, as it is obviously one of those albums that many who have shaped music in the intervening years drew inspiration from.
posted by hippybear at 7:34 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
Hippybear: relieved: not so much, it means I need to sent Gabriel some serious fruit baskets. I think I must have mixed them up round about Graceland... It is quite handy as I can now despise Simon for that, as well as breaking up with Garfunkle.
item: I am, as it happens, a lazy no-good bollocks: that was actually a reply to benito.strauss, it's just that it took me ages to look up some suitably pseudo-intellectual links to give the pretence that I might actually know what I was talking about. I did notice the new comments, I may even have read them... But I figured that being temporarily displaced was going to be the least objectionable thing about my comment (personally I find the saccharine anodyne homeliness sickening).
Hippybear (again): Over here we have radio 1 and radio 2 to reinforce that distinction. Our school bus (well technically it was a transit van with some benches wedged in) driver [an elderly horn carver, with a very big beard] used to be a fanatical radio 2 listener, and The Drifters was as wild as it got. Now, even the late night radio 1 bands (black sabbath, ramones, velvet underground, violet onsen geisha... etyadda), are mid-afternoon radio 2 fare.
posted by titus-g at 7:45 PM on June 12, 2012
item: I am, as it happens, a lazy no-good bollocks: that was actually a reply to benito.strauss, it's just that it took me ages to look up some suitably pseudo-intellectual links to give the pretence that I might actually know what I was talking about. I did notice the new comments, I may even have read them... But I figured that being temporarily displaced was going to be the least objectionable thing about my comment (personally I find the saccharine anodyne homeliness sickening).
Hippybear (again): Over here we have radio 1 and radio 2 to reinforce that distinction. Our school bus (well technically it was a transit van with some benches wedged in) driver [an elderly horn carver, with a very big beard] used to be a fanatical radio 2 listener, and The Drifters was as wild as it got. Now, even the late night radio 1 bands (black sabbath, ramones, velvet underground, violet onsen geisha... etyadda), are mid-afternoon radio 2 fare.
posted by titus-g at 7:45 PM on June 12, 2012
Thanks for this--sends me back to college days, many bongs and much music. If this tape was available back then, before the interwebs and all, I would've whizzed.
posted by condesita at 7:51 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by condesita at 7:51 PM on June 12, 2012 [1 favorite]
There's nothing to see here, folks, except some interesting working titles.
I disagree. While perhaps disappointing there are no lost tracks here, it is nonetheless an interesting and valuable artifact.
posted by xod at 8:04 AM on June 13, 2012
I disagree. While perhaps disappointing there are no lost tracks here, it is nonetheless an interesting and valuable artifact.
posted by xod at 8:04 AM on June 13, 2012
relieved: not so much, it means I need to sent Gabriel some serious fruit baskets. I think I must have mixed them up round about Graceland... It is quite handy as I can now despise Simon for that,
Wait. Not for Graceland, right? Because Graceland was a pretty amazing album, and a big part of the soundtrack to the middle years of my childhood, and the lyrics are only becoming more meaningful as I grow older.
posted by snuffleupagus at 8:15 AM on June 13, 2012
No, I think that titus-g will be despising Simon for marrying Edie Brickell.
It's an interesting idea, confusing Simon and Gabriel during the Graceland era. That was the same era as Gabriel's So album (which is getting a pretty great revival tour by Gabriel and most of the band he toured with in 1987 in support of that album, and is coming nowhere near me. *pout*), and so I can see that they probably had tracks in the charts at the same time.
However, there really is no confusing the two. Totally different approaches to music, totally different sounds on those albums.
posted by hippybear at 8:22 AM on June 13, 2012
It's an interesting idea, confusing Simon and Gabriel during the Graceland era. That was the same era as Gabriel's So album (which is getting a pretty great revival tour by Gabriel and most of the band he toured with in 1987 in support of that album, and is coming nowhere near me. *pout*), and so I can see that they probably had tracks in the charts at the same time.
However, there really is no confusing the two. Totally different approaches to music, totally different sounds on those albums.
posted by hippybear at 8:22 AM on June 13, 2012
I believe that the Gabriel/Simon confusion is due to both of them incorporating various African influences into their sounds at a time when it was still a fresh thing to do. Speaking as an (at the time) huge Gabriel fan, I found Graceland a little annoying simply because Gabriel had done it first, at least six years previous with his third album. But then, SO was a turning point for me anyway. Too smooth. Too clean. Too easy. Too much like something that somebody could confuse with Paul Simon. It had its moments (I genuinely liked Sledgehammer as a big fat dance floor hit) but all in all, I vastly preferred the previous two albums and all the dark weird places they went.
posted by philip-random at 9:15 AM on June 13, 2012
posted by philip-random at 9:15 AM on June 13, 2012
Incidentally:
DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING POPULARITY OF THIS POST, MORE THAN 5000 DOWNLOADS SO FAR, I HAVE DUSTED OF MY TRUSTY OLD NAKAMICHI DRAGON, AND RE RIPPED THE TAPE. AGAIN ONE SIDE PER WAVE FILE.
THIS RESULTS IN MUCH HIGHER LEVELS AND FIDELITY THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE , THAT WAS MADE WITH AN ION TAPE2GO CASSETTE TRANSFER DEVICE.
posted by mykescipark at 5:50 AM on June 14, 2012 [1 favorite]
DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING POPULARITY OF THIS POST, MORE THAN 5000 DOWNLOADS SO FAR, I HAVE DUSTED OF MY TRUSTY OLD NAKAMICHI DRAGON, AND RE RIPPED THE TAPE. AGAIN ONE SIDE PER WAVE FILE.
THIS RESULTS IN MUCH HIGHER LEVELS AND FIDELITY THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE , THAT WAS MADE WITH AN ION TAPE2GO CASSETTE TRANSFER DEVICE.
posted by mykescipark at 5:50 AM on June 14, 2012 [1 favorite]
But if you have the Nakamichi deck, why would you... ah, forget it.
posted by box at 8:54 AM on June 14, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by box at 8:54 AM on June 14, 2012 [1 favorite]
But if you have the Nakamichi deck, why would you... ah, forget it.
Um, yeah. Kinda lays waste to the rest of his work, if you ask me. At least he's sharing it in uncompressed format, so those of us with access to professional gear can do salvage work on the most interesting stuff...
posted by mykescipark at 1:12 PM on June 14, 2012
Um, yeah. Kinda lays waste to the rest of his work, if you ask me. At least he's sharing it in uncompressed format, so those of us with access to professional gear can do salvage work on the most interesting stuff...
posted by mykescipark at 1:12 PM on June 14, 2012
I wish there was more overlap between the silverback alpha supernerds of the collecting, ripping and sharing communities. Imagine if Joe Bussard or Jazzy Jay or somebody had a grandson that was really into invite-only torrent sites.
posted by box at 4:58 PM on June 14, 2012
posted by box at 4:58 PM on June 14, 2012
Rats. And just this morning he'd posted an entire unreleased Andy Partridge album.
posted by mykescipark at 12:14 PM on June 15, 2012
posted by mykescipark at 12:14 PM on June 15, 2012
Ack! I know, I didn't get to download this stuff yet, either! What happened?
posted by Red Loop at 8:50 AM on June 17, 2012
posted by Red Loop at 8:50 AM on June 17, 2012
Copyright, I'd imagine.
posted by snuffleupagus at 12:38 PM on June 17, 2012
posted by snuffleupagus at 12:38 PM on June 17, 2012
But if you have the Nakamichi deck, why would you...
See, now, I was sure that was going to turn out to be a William Gibson quote...
IIRC using a Nakamichi deck was the only way to get in touch with 'Long Joseph' (short of turning up with a six pack of mountain rose).
Errm, or, although, I think that may have been Tad Williams; not Williams Gibson. I also mix those two up....
posted by titus-g at 4:49 PM on June 18, 2012
See, now, I was sure that was going to turn out to be a William Gibson quote...
IIRC using a Nakamichi deck was the only way to get in touch with 'Long Joseph' (short of turning up with a six pack of mountain rose).
Errm, or, although, I think that may have been Tad Williams; not Williams Gibson. I also mix those two up....
posted by titus-g at 4:49 PM on June 18, 2012
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