"I feel like a free man."
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"By the time I realized I was in love, it was malignant. It was hopeless. There was no escaping, no negotiating with the feeling. No choice. It was my first love, it changed my life. Back then, my mind would wander to the women I had been with, the ones I cared for and thought I was in love with. I reminisced about the sentimental songs I enjoyed when I was a teenager.. the ones I played when I experienced a girlfriend for the first time. I realized they were written in a language I did not yet speak." --Frank Ocean comes out.
Feeling like Adam when he first found out this existed, imma try to swim from something bigger than me. Now every time somebody asks me if I sing songs to get my women I say no, they say okay I don't believe it. I believe that marriage isn't between a man and woman but between love and love, but I can dream.
"One journalist... believes that on Channel Orange, Frank Ocean comes out as bisexual. The argument has people talking, but it all rests upon Ocean's use of a few key pronouns...you can hear him sing about being in love and there are quite obvious words used like ‘him’ and not ‘her'."
I think i started something. Or do you not think so far ahead? 'Cause I been thinkin bout forever.
Feeling like Adam when he first found out this existed, imma try to swim from something bigger than me. Now every time somebody asks me if I sing songs to get my women I say no, they say okay I don't believe it. I believe that marriage isn't between a man and woman but between love and love, but I can dream.
"One journalist... believes that on Channel Orange, Frank Ocean comes out as bisexual. The argument has people talking, but it all rests upon Ocean's use of a few key pronouns...you can hear him sing about being in love and there are quite obvious words used like ‘him’ and not ‘her'."
I think i started something. Or do you not think so far ahead? 'Cause I been thinkin bout forever.
Holy shit.
posted by en forme de poire at 12:53 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by en forme de poire at 12:53 AM on July 4, 2012
I'll wait for a bit to make sure this isn't the most elaborate -- and kind of amazing -- attempts at trolling ever.
posted by bardic at 1:08 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by bardic at 1:08 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Congrats Frank, you've won life.
posted by victory_laser at 1:09 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by victory_laser at 1:09 AM on July 4, 2012
bardic, from his tumblr, right before he posted the image with the story,
we’re all a bunch of golden million dollar babies. my hope is that the babies born these days will inherit less of the bullshit than we did. anyhow, what i’m about to post is for anyone who cares to read. it was intended to fill the thank you’s section in my album credits, but with all the rumors going round.. i figured it’d be good to clarify..
also, tyler, the creator is congratulating him on twitter (and, admittedly, still clowning around)
posted by nadawi at 1:15 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
we’re all a bunch of golden million dollar babies. my hope is that the babies born these days will inherit less of the bullshit than we did. anyhow, what i’m about to post is for anyone who cares to read. it was intended to fill the thank you’s section in my album credits, but with all the rumors going round.. i figured it’d be good to clarify..
also, tyler, the creator is congratulating him on twitter (and, admittedly, still clowning around)
posted by nadawi at 1:15 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
hahahahhaha anyway im a toilet, gold
posted by en forme de poire at 1:18 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by en forme de poire at 1:18 AM on July 4, 2012
Lest we forgot -- musicians and celebrities like to stir the pot before releasing new product, so as to ensure larger sales.
Great story if it's true but this is OFWGKTA we're talking about.
posted by bardic at 1:47 AM on July 4, 2012
Great story if it's true but this is OFWGKTA we're talking about.
posted by bardic at 1:47 AM on July 4, 2012
I still am not quite sure who he is, but wow, it is a rare thing to be able to write like that at 23.
posted by cairdeas at 1:48 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by cairdeas at 1:48 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
The man is a genius. The art forms of our times are bound to grow and change and Frank Ocean represents an evolution of RnB.
posted by Ad hominem at 1:55 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by Ad hominem at 1:55 AM on July 4, 2012
Hmm. So, one day in the future, will certain celebrities (who we previously thought were gay) come out as straight?
posted by victory_laser at 2:02 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by victory_laser at 2:02 AM on July 4, 2012
^That was in response to:
Lest we forgot -- musicians and celebrities like to stir the pot before releasing new product, so as to ensure larger sales.
posted by victory_laser at 2:03 AM on July 4, 2012
Lest we forgot -- musicians and celebrities like to stir the pot before releasing new product, so as to ensure larger sales.
posted by victory_laser at 2:03 AM on July 4, 2012
That Complex article puts words in Max's mouth. In her article, she never says "bisexual".
Congratulations to Frank. I'm taking it as a genuine move, and I think Odd Future's growing up a bit.
posted by knile at 3:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Congratulations to Frank. I'm taking it as a genuine move, and I think Odd Future's growing up a bit.
posted by knile at 3:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I'm sure this would've been fascinating if I could've read the first link.
posted by MartinWisse at 3:44 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by MartinWisse at 3:44 AM on July 4, 2012
Did you try clicking on the thumbnail presented when you open the link?
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:53 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by ricochet biscuit at 3:53 AM on July 4, 2012
Incredibly moving statement
posted by Greener Backyards at 4:53 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by Greener Backyards at 4:53 AM on July 4, 2012
I just read the 'who he is' link but I'm still not sure who he is. Which makes me feel very old and out of the loop. Good on him though for stepping up and being who he is.
posted by bquarters at 6:12 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by bquarters at 6:12 AM on July 4, 2012
Isn't OMGWTFBBQ the group with the misogynistic and homophobic lyrics?
posted by desjardins at 6:28 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by desjardins at 6:28 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
Lest we forgot -- musicians and celebrities like to stir the pot before releasing new product, so as to ensure larger sales.
Hmm. So, one day in the future, will certain celebrities (who we previously thought were gay) come out as straight?
That would be an... odd future.
posted by Corduroy at 7:14 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
Hmm. So, one day in the future, will certain celebrities (who we previously thought were gay) come out as straight?
That would be an... odd future.
posted by Corduroy at 7:14 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
I like how Tyler saying "Fucking Finally Sus Boy @frank_ocean Hahahaha, You Still Aint Got No Bitches Hahaha My Nigga Dawg" counts as "tweeting his support". Jesus fucking Christ.
posted by King Bee at 7:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by King Bee at 7:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
So, one day in the future, will certain celebrities (who we previously thought were gay) come out as straight?
No.
One day in the future, people will find people they share love with and nobody will bat an eye about the gender of that other person.
posted by hippybear at 7:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
No.
One day in the future, people will find people they share love with and nobody will bat an eye about the gender of that other person.
posted by hippybear at 7:20 AM on July 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
It's pretty interesting that he wrote it 7 months ago. It's also interesting that a few folks are waiting to see if it's real or a publicity stunt. I mean, sure it's Odd Future, but the same shit would be Not Okay aimed at, say, Anderson Cooper, right?
Semi-related, I'm pretty certain that Channel Orange will be the best pop R&B album in a long time.
posted by papayaninja at 8:04 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Semi-related, I'm pretty certain that Channel Orange will be the best pop R&B album in a long time.
posted by papayaninja at 8:04 AM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
I like how Tyler saying "Fucking Finally Sus Boy @frank_ocean Hahahaha, You Still Aint Got No Bitches Hahaha My Nigga Dawg" counts as "tweeting his support". Jesus fucking Christ.
posted by King Bee at 7:20 AM on July 4 [+] [!]
Well, yeah. It's kind of misogynistic, and he says the "n word". Though, I might be reading too much into this, I'm going to give it my run down. Maybe you'll be less.. annoyed?
He's basically saying "Finally, I've kind of known all along. No wonder you never got laid. Hahhaha."
And the last part, "My nigga dawg" shows the most support. He's not really calling him a "nigga", that's not the point of this sentence. When you say "my nigga", it really means they've done something you approve of, or agree with. Like saying "Thats my boy!" You're not pointing out gender, you're calling out praise.
But, yeah, he probably could have done without "ain't got no bitches" part. I still think this is a really big deal, for the RnB and Hip Hop industry. Odd Future is really big right now, and this might change a lot of people's minds.
posted by FirstMateKate at 8:15 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by King Bee at 7:20 AM on July 4 [+] [!]
Well, yeah. It's kind of misogynistic, and he says the "n word". Though, I might be reading too much into this, I'm going to give it my run down. Maybe you'll be less.. annoyed?
He's basically saying "Finally, I've kind of known all along. No wonder you never got laid. Hahhaha."
And the last part, "My nigga dawg" shows the most support. He's not really calling him a "nigga", that's not the point of this sentence. When you say "my nigga", it really means they've done something you approve of, or agree with. Like saying "Thats my boy!" You're not pointing out gender, you're calling out praise.
But, yeah, he probably could have done without "ain't got no bitches" part. I still think this is a really big deal, for the RnB and Hip Hop industry. Odd Future is really big right now, and this might change a lot of people's minds.
posted by FirstMateKate at 8:15 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
I like how Tyler saying "Fucking Finally Sus Boy @frank_ocean Hahahaha, You Still Aint Got No Bitches Hahaha My Nigga Dawg" counts as "tweeting his support". Jesus fucking Christ.
I like how you saying "Jesus fucking Christ" counts as expressing your dislike.
posted by acidic at 8:17 AM on July 4, 2012 [14 favorites]
I like how you saying "Jesus fucking Christ" counts as expressing your dislike.
posted by acidic at 8:17 AM on July 4, 2012 [14 favorites]
I'm going to be greedy about this post: I'm more than happy for him, I'm glad he's comfortable with coming out, but I'm even more blown away by the fact that such an amazing artist (and amazing guy, having done a little reading now) flew completely under my radar.
So thanks for this post, for quite a few different reasons.
posted by six-or-six-thirty at 8:21 AM on July 4, 2012
So thanks for this post, for quite a few different reasons.
posted by six-or-six-thirty at 8:21 AM on July 4, 2012
Also, Frank Ocean has yet to sell a single album (which doesn't make him any less popular or critically acclaimed, just more brave).
posted by acidic at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by acidic at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
I'm more than happy for him,
BUT A.C. HAD ONE OF THE BEST COMING OUTS OF ALL TIME!
OF ALL TIME!
posted by overeducated_alligator at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
BUT A.C. HAD ONE OF THE BEST COMING OUTS OF ALL TIME!
OF ALL TIME!
posted by overeducated_alligator at 8:26 AM on July 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
Some people seem to have this personal rule of thumb that goes like "Every time a gay man comes out, assume he's just doing it for the attention." And that's a seriously shitty way to look at the world. I mean, first off, it's obviously not true — and anyone with the least bit of empathy for gay people would know it wasn't true. So you'd really have to be a bit of a homophobe just to adopt that rule of thumb in the first place.
On the other hand, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have a personal rule of thumb that goes like "Every time one of the Odd Future dudes opens his mouth, assume he's just doing it for the attention." Because honestly I think that's the most charitable assumption to make. Way kinder to think "Oh these are some clever kids who know how to generate media buzz" then "Oh wow these are some seriously dangerous and unhinged assholes," right?
So if someone says this is just a publicity stunt then my reaction depends on which rule of thumb is generating the idea. If it's the "gay men are a bunch of drama queens" thing then fuck that, the general principle you're reasoning from is flawed and homophobic. If it's the "Odd Future will say anything to stir shit up" thing then, yeah, okay, the general principle you're reasoning from is pretty sound, even if I suspect you're gonna turn out to be wrong in this particular instance.
Tl;dr: Me personally, I'm assuming this isn't a publicity stunt. But I don't think it's necessarily homophobic to entertain the possibility that it is.
posted by nebulawindphone at 8:28 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
On the other hand, I think it's perfectly reasonable to have a personal rule of thumb that goes like "Every time one of the Odd Future dudes opens his mouth, assume he's just doing it for the attention." Because honestly I think that's the most charitable assumption to make. Way kinder to think "Oh these are some clever kids who know how to generate media buzz" then "Oh wow these are some seriously dangerous and unhinged assholes," right?
So if someone says this is just a publicity stunt then my reaction depends on which rule of thumb is generating the idea. If it's the "gay men are a bunch of drama queens" thing then fuck that, the general principle you're reasoning from is flawed and homophobic. If it's the "Odd Future will say anything to stir shit up" thing then, yeah, okay, the general principle you're reasoning from is pretty sound, even if I suspect you're gonna turn out to be wrong in this particular instance.
Tl;dr: Me personally, I'm assuming this isn't a publicity stunt. But I don't think it's necessarily homophobic to entertain the possibility that it is.
posted by nebulawindphone at 8:28 AM on July 4, 2012 [5 favorites]
One of the things that is really impt is that mainstream outing, constructed via PR agent becomes a way of narrowing focus and often ending discourse--it becomes a way where we no longer talk about the subject's homosexuality, and that homosexuality is never allowed to become queer.
This text, in it's glorious, self directed beauty--and that this text is intended to be an introduction to other texts, sometimes about how he loves a man, and sometimes about other things, consturcted by himself, as an introduction to his own narratives and ideas, not through a second or third party, widens focus and begins new discourse. it becomes a way where we are given permission to talk about the subject's queerness, even the line the cleverness of the love being maligant works as a deconstruction of heteronormative tropes about falling in love, or as a fellow theologian noted, he writes: "For the rest of my life, I will use "It wasn't a plane though. It was a Nissan Maxima." as a general-purpose description for the banalization of dreams and ideals."--that it gives us more vocabulary, more ways to tell stories that are so often not talked about.
His work is sad, beautiful, epic, and ambitous as fuck--adding queerness on top of that, sigh amazeballs.
posted by PinkMoose at 9:05 AM on July 4, 2012 [13 favorites]
This text, in it's glorious, self directed beauty--and that this text is intended to be an introduction to other texts, sometimes about how he loves a man, and sometimes about other things, consturcted by himself, as an introduction to his own narratives and ideas, not through a second or third party, widens focus and begins new discourse. it becomes a way where we are given permission to talk about the subject's queerness, even the line the cleverness of the love being maligant works as a deconstruction of heteronormative tropes about falling in love, or as a fellow theologian noted, he writes: "For the rest of my life, I will use "It wasn't a plane though. It was a Nissan Maxima." as a general-purpose description for the banalization of dreams and ideals."--that it gives us more vocabulary, more ways to tell stories that are so often not talked about.
His work is sad, beautiful, epic, and ambitous as fuck--adding queerness on top of that, sigh amazeballs.
posted by PinkMoose at 9:05 AM on July 4, 2012 [13 favorites]
http://www.ebony.com/entertainment-culture/independence-day-frank-ocean-gets-real
Fantastic context from Ebony.
posted by PinkMoose at 9:16 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Fantastic context from Ebony.
posted by PinkMoose at 9:16 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
That letter is fucking gorgeous.
posted by stagewhisper at 9:56 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by stagewhisper at 9:56 AM on July 4, 2012 [3 favorites]
This is the first time I've been, on balance, heartened by youtube comments.
posted by postcommunism at 9:57 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by postcommunism at 9:57 AM on July 4, 2012
Right on, Frank. Right on.
posted by klangklangston at 10:00 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by klangklangston at 10:00 AM on July 4, 2012
Just in case anyone's skimming, Tyler also said "My Big Brother Finally Fucking Did That. Proud Of That Nigga Cause I Know That Shit Is Difficult Or Whatever. Anyway. Im A Toilet." Which I'm pretty sure is supportive, especially coming from Tyler. Anyway, im a toilet.
posted by en forme de poire at 10:01 AM on July 4, 2012 [8 favorites]
posted by en forme de poire at 10:01 AM on July 4, 2012 [8 favorites]
Thought the FPP should've linked to Pyramids, Ocean's latest ten minute epic, which is just unbelievably good, even as it appears to be about a woman.
Really surprised and proud of Frank. Anyone who knows anything about the man should see that this isn't a "publicity stunt." He has never come across as anything other than a great, totally genuine guy, and he's always been one step removed from the antics of OFWGKTA.
This makes two gay Odd Future members. Really can't wait for people to stop pretending they're homophobic, especially as all their work evolves and mature.
posted by JimBennett at 10:06 AM on July 4, 2012
Really surprised and proud of Frank. Anyone who knows anything about the man should see that this isn't a "publicity stunt." He has never come across as anything other than a great, totally genuine guy, and he's always been one step removed from the antics of OFWGKTA.
This makes two gay Odd Future members. Really can't wait for people to stop pretending they're homophobic, especially as all their work evolves and mature.
posted by JimBennett at 10:06 AM on July 4, 2012
Oh good, now maybe his crew can stop fucking around with juvenile rage fantasies and start making music as adults.
posted by Theta States at 10:08 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by Theta States at 10:08 AM on July 4, 2012
Yeah, some rare hopeful moments from YT comments, e.g.: "i can only imagine people trying to be gay now just because frank came out lol"
posted by en forme de poire at 10:23 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by en forme de poire at 10:23 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
The best commentary I've read about Odd Future and misogyny/homophobia/anti-oppression discourses: (the links kind of need to be read in order to fully make sense because of the way conversations on tumblr/lj flow)
- Odd Future and music as commodity
- online anti-oppression discourses part i, part ii
- Odd Future as sum of all white fears or black fears?
posted by dustyasymptotes at 10:31 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
- Odd Future and music as commodity
- online anti-oppression discourses part i, part ii
- Odd Future as sum of all white fears or black fears?
posted by dustyasymptotes at 10:31 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Jon Caramanica describes his recent interview with Frank which resulted in today's article.
posted by acidic at 10:48 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by acidic at 10:48 AM on July 4, 2012
I got someone on Twitter to believe that Billy Ocean had come out. My day is made.
posted by desjardins at 10:58 AM on July 4, 2012 [9 favorites]
posted by desjardins at 10:58 AM on July 4, 2012 [9 favorites]
I mean, Carribbean Queen? Come on.
posted by desjardins at 10:58 AM on July 4, 2012
posted by desjardins at 10:58 AM on July 4, 2012
I got confused, then realized I was thinking of Billy Ocean.
On preview, what desjardins said.
posted by infinitywaltz at 11:09 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
On preview, what desjardins said.
posted by infinitywaltz at 11:09 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Um, I was 15 when I first drew that donut
5 years later, for our label yea we own it
I started an empire, I ain't even old enough
To drink a fucking beer, I'm tipsy off this soda pop
This is for the niggas in the suburbs
And the white kids with nigga friends who say the n-word
And the ones that got called weird, fag, bitch, nerd
Cause you was into jazz, kitty cats, and Steven Spielberg
They say we ain't actin' right
Always try to turn our fuckin' color into black and white
But they'll never change 'em, never understand 'em
Radical's my anthem, turn my fucking amps up
So instead of critiquing and bitchin', bein' mad as fuck
Just admit, not only are we talented, we're rad as fuck, bitches
-- Tyler the Creator "Oldie"
I love the end of that video because it shows Odd Future as a bunch of dorky high-school / college-age kids just having fun.
Which is what they are. I get that they have lyrics that are objectionable. They aren't saying anything appreciably worse or different than a lot of kids I went to, at an almost completely white school, on an island near seattle, in the early 90s.
There is a lot more to these kids than just using some bad words.
posted by lkc at 12:07 PM on July 4, 2012 [13 favorites]
5 years later, for our label yea we own it
I started an empire, I ain't even old enough
To drink a fucking beer, I'm tipsy off this soda pop
This is for the niggas in the suburbs
And the white kids with nigga friends who say the n-word
And the ones that got called weird, fag, bitch, nerd
Cause you was into jazz, kitty cats, and Steven Spielberg
They say we ain't actin' right
Always try to turn our fuckin' color into black and white
But they'll never change 'em, never understand 'em
Radical's my anthem, turn my fucking amps up
So instead of critiquing and bitchin', bein' mad as fuck
Just admit, not only are we talented, we're rad as fuck, bitches
-- Tyler the Creator "Oldie"
I love the end of that video because it shows Odd Future as a bunch of dorky high-school / college-age kids just having fun.
Which is what they are. I get that they have lyrics that are objectionable. They aren't saying anything appreciably worse or different than a lot of kids I went to, at an almost completely white school, on an island near seattle, in the early 90s.
There is a lot more to these kids than just using some bad words.
posted by lkc at 12:07 PM on July 4, 2012 [13 favorites]
frank ocean's mom: My son is brave and honest and I am very proud of him. I wish more people in the world could be brave enough to be who they really are.
scroll through her feed, unless she's trolling too this looks legit.
posted by nadawi at 12:34 PM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
scroll through her feed, unless she's trolling too this looks legit.
posted by nadawi at 12:34 PM on July 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
russell simmons: I am profoundly moved by the courage and honesty of Frank Ocean.
(click the link, the whole statement is nice)
posted by nadawi at 12:45 PM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
(click the link, the whole statement is nice)
posted by nadawi at 12:45 PM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Roll that Oldie video back to the 5:30 mark.
posted by The Hamms Bear at 1:42 PM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by The Hamms Bear at 1:42 PM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Did you try clicking on the thumbnail presented when you open the link?
I did, and I couldn't focus on the text, and couldn't copy and past it into a readable format.
posted by jacalata at 4:04 PM on July 4, 2012
I did, and I couldn't focus on the text, and couldn't copy and past it into a readable format.
posted by jacalata at 4:04 PM on July 4, 2012
the sentimental songs I enjoyed when I was a teenager.. I realized they were written in a language I did not yet speak.
As the song says ...
There was love all around
But I never heard it singing
No I never heard it at all
Till there was you you didn't hear those songs.
posted by Twang at 4:16 PM on July 4, 2012
As the song says ...
There was love all around
But I never heard it singing
No I never heard it at all
Till there was you you didn't hear those songs.
posted by Twang at 4:16 PM on July 4, 2012
if you scroll below the image in this link someone has typed it all out.
posted by nadawi at 4:18 PM on July 4, 2012
posted by nadawi at 4:18 PM on July 4, 2012
There is a lot more to these kids than just using some bad words.
But also, the world is brimming with talent that doesn't require one to sift through the mountains of plauyful douchery.
posted by Theta States at 9:46 AM on July 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
But also, the world is brimming with talent that doesn't require one to sift through the mountains of plauyful douchery.
posted by Theta States at 9:46 AM on July 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
Next, The Weeknd will announce a mutually supportive, loving, monogamous relationship with a woman he only has vanilla sober sex with. That will be a troll.
posted by Blue Meanie at 10:52 AM on July 5, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by Blue Meanie at 10:52 AM on July 5, 2012 [3 favorites]
Blue Meanie: Next, The Weeknd will announce a mutually supportive, loving, monogamous relationship with a woman.... That will be a troll.
She has a name, and it is Samantha, and while she might have a bit of a slouch and not shave as much as "typical" women do, she is not a troll.
bardic: Great story if it's true but this is OFWGKTA we're talking about.
If you haven't already, read about the return of Earl Sweatshirt. OFWGKTA is growing up. See also PinkMoose's link to an opinion article on Ebony, which notes that Ocean, 24 years old, "quickly went from ghostwriting for acts like Justin Bieber and John Legend to very publicly working with Beyonce and being featured on Kanye West and Jay-Z's Watch the Throne." He's still relatively young, but I'd like to think he's mature enough (and serious enough about his career) to not use this as a chance to elaborately troll for publicity ahead of his forthcoming album.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:31 PM on July 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
She has a name, and it is Samantha, and while she might have a bit of a slouch and not shave as much as "typical" women do, she is not a troll.
bardic: Great story if it's true but this is OFWGKTA we're talking about.
If you haven't already, read about the return of Earl Sweatshirt. OFWGKTA is growing up. See also PinkMoose's link to an opinion article on Ebony, which notes that Ocean, 24 years old, "quickly went from ghostwriting for acts like Justin Bieber and John Legend to very publicly working with Beyonce and being featured on Kanye West and Jay-Z's Watch the Throne." He's still relatively young, but I'd like to think he's mature enough (and serious enough about his career) to not use this as a chance to elaborately troll for publicity ahead of his forthcoming album.
posted by filthy light thief at 2:31 PM on July 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
For those who don't know, Channel Orange was released early on iTunes last night and is streaming on frankocean.com. Plus, his TV debut on Jimmy Fallon.
posted by acidic at 9:31 AM on July 10, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by acidic at 9:31 AM on July 10, 2012 [1 favorite]
wow, that fallon performance was really touching. i wish they had scrapped the strings at the end, but otherwise, really nice.
posted by nadawi at 11:15 AM on July 10, 2012
posted by nadawi at 11:15 AM on July 10, 2012
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I believe that marriage isn't between a man and woman but between love and love.
Truth.
posted by flippant at 12:52 AM on July 4, 2012 [1 favorite]