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July 18, 2012 3:44 PM   Subscribe

The Dark Knight Rises trailers, Batman The Animated Series style: Teaser, Trailer 2, Trailer 3, Trailer 4. Side by side of Trailer 3.
posted by Artw (58 comments total) 10 users marked this as a favorite

 
...also I'm now wondering if quiet is the new DUUUUURN.
posted by Artw at 3:45 PM on July 18, 2012


I believe you mean the new ominous goose, and if so at least it's probably less prone to obnoxiousness.
posted by figurant at 3:50 PM on July 18, 2012


...also I'm now wondering if quiet is the new DUUUUURN.

Don't you mean 'BRRRAAAAAMMM'?
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 3:59 PM on July 18, 2012


Oh, I love music. Especially BRAAAAHMMMS
posted by Sticherbeast at 4:04 PM on July 18, 2012 [4 favorites]


I still think Bane is the lamest villian in the Batman universe. I fear going to see The Dark Knight Rises only to witness Bane suffocate to death by overeating mayonnaise or some ridicolous crap like that because he's a whiny loser. And that's like fifteen minutes into the movie.

Hey Bane ... you suck. And your spandex suit makes your ass look big. Jerk.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 4:07 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


Relevant.


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly. I wish I could find the bit in the Onion's recent comic edition that said something like "Hey, if I wanted to make a movie for adults I wouldn't be making a movie about comic book characters." Exactly. Exactly.
posted by Decani at 4:12 PM on July 18, 2012 [2 favorites]


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly.

Yeah, well, poop on you too, poop-face.
posted by Tomorrowful at 4:15 PM on July 18, 2012 [12 favorites]


You're so Bain, you probably think this film is about you.
posted by octobersurprise at 4:16 PM on July 18, 2012 [2 favorites]


Hey Bane ... you suck. And your spandex suit makes your ass look big. Jerk.

Counterpoint
posted by Artw at 4:17 PM on July 18, 2012 [6 favorites]


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly.

Eh? I don't understand this sentence at all. The characters found their origins in comic books, so they shouldn't be enjoyed by adults? That's a weird thing to say.
posted by King Bee at 4:17 PM on July 18, 2012 [2 favorites]


Decani, you sort of have a point. I'm definitely going to see The Dark Knight Rises, the only question is whether it's at midnight on Thursday or Friday night. I'm am totally stoked for the film, the actual trailers look incredibly good.

Yet, I'm keenly aware of how silly the idea of Batman is. The first first in the trilogy was a well crafted movie, but ultimately it couldn't escape the superhero ghetto that birthed it. The second one, The Dark Knight, was much better and appeared to be a fantastic maturation of the series, yet it ultimately fell short by having the Joker do some cliched move of trying to convince people of how hopeless life is by some overly thought out plot. And then Batman can't bring himself to kill the person who has killed so many and would kill so many more. Again, the mythos failed to grow.

Now, here's the third movie, and seeing people running around in masks and tights still doesn't look quite right and the villain is practicing cartoon philosophy. "When Gotham City is ashes, then you have my permission to die." JUST PUT A FUCKING BULLET IN HIM and be done with it, sheesh.

But still, Christopher Nolan makes damn entertaining films and friends are going, so it should be a blast, despite the obvious plot and logic holes from the trailer alone.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:21 PM on July 18, 2012


B:TAS >>>>> all other Batman versions. The end.
posted by immlass at 4:22 PM on July 18, 2012 [8 favorites]


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly.

Indeed. Why can't people spend their mental energy on more important, more meaningful pursuits, such as posting about how comic book superheroes are totally dumb?
posted by IjonTichy at 4:22 PM on July 18, 2012 [9 favorites]


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly.

Comics, like books, have a very, very broad range. The superhero genre has a very, very broad range. Go and read Miracleman and see just how far comic creators can bend such a simple idea.
posted by panboi at 4:27 PM on July 18, 2012


You should read Supergods, Decani. (It's a nonfiction book.) There's more to the genre than what you see on the surface. Superheroes are just a new form of old time mythology, like King Arthur or the gods of ancient Greece, but evolved into a new, modern form.
posted by Kevin Street at 4:28 PM on July 18, 2012 [2 favorites]


James Berardinelli says it's excellent.
posted by Chocolate Pickle at 4:30 PM on July 18, 2012


HEY GUYS I AM WAY TOO MATURE AND ADULT TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS YOU ARE EXCITED BY

HEY WAIT COME BACK HERE I HAVEN'T FINISHED TELLING YOU HOW MUCH YOU SUCK GUYS COME ON GUYS
posted by Pope Guilty at 4:34 PM on July 18, 2012 [22 favorites]


You're so Bain, you probably think this film is about you.

What is it with the winguts always trying to stake a claim on the Batman movies? First they try to say GWB is The Dark Knight and now this.

At this point I'm just hoping I'm not going to walk out of TDKR feeling like I did after Prometheus.
posted by fuse theorem at 4:36 PM on July 18, 2012 [3 favorites]


Is this the thread where I posit my theory that Bain (in this movie) is Ra's al Ghul in disguise? It seems like it would bring the themes of this trilogy full circle.
posted by Groundhog Week at 4:39 PM on July 18, 2012


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified

Frustrated by inability to think of a MetaFilter meme that expresses how completely opposite to this I feel.

I never want to live in the grim hopeless awful world where adults can't get excited about dumb/smart/silly/intelligent/anyothersorta comic book superheroes.
posted by bearwife at 4:41 PM on July 18, 2012 [7 favorites]


What is it with the winguts always trying to stake a claim on the Batman movies? First they try to say GWB is The Dark Knight and now this.

This one was briefly about how Occupy is evil and is currently an attack on Mitt Romney - I'm sure it'll be read in a bunch of other silly ways once it's actually out.
posted by Artw at 4:45 PM on July 18, 2012


There is no hope for this world so long as grown adults think that still being excited by dumb comic book superheroes can ever be justified, even slightly.

"I don't even own a television. Notice I didn't say 'TV'. Because TV is a nickname, and nicknames are for friends, and television is no friend of mine."
posted by Sticherbeast at 4:46 PM on July 18, 2012 [12 favorites]


Alas, Ebert gave it 3 stars. Ebert gave Dark Knight Returns 4 stars, and considers Spiderman 2 the best of the superhero movies, which is an opinion I also share.

Three stars from Ebert is traditionally what I consider to be a "decent rental". I am still there for the midnight showing tomorrow with my son, but I've updated my priors and am no longer expecting perfection.
posted by scunning at 4:53 PM on July 18, 2012


I'd actually point at the Grant Morrison book for anyone seriously interested in the question of why grown-ass adults are as fascinated by something as transparently silly as superheroes.

(Also some wacky pseudoscience involving sunspots)
posted by Artw at 4:53 PM on July 18, 2012


Relevant.

Relevant.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 4:55 PM on July 18, 2012 [3 favorites]


OK. I'm going to confess here. These thoughts have been floating around in my head for a while, and-- if you guys will humor me for a moment-- I feel the urge to get it all out.

I have a weird relationship with comic book movies. I adore "indie" comics like Sandman and Fables and Bone, but I hate superheroes. I always have, and the hate seems to grow more strong the older I get.

I never cared much for the Superman and Batman movies back in the '80s, because superheroes, meh. Then, when I watched the first two installments of the X-Men and Spiderman movie franchise back in the early '00s, I really enjoyed them. Was it possible, I wondered, that I could actually like superhero movies?

Then came the really disappointing Spider-Man 3 and X-Men: The Last Stand, and I heard so many bad reviews from my friends and favorite critics I could not be arsed to watch them. Then superhero movies became even more ridiculously prevalent, and it seemed (as an illustrator who dabbled in comics) that I was not only expected to watch and enjoy the latest Batman movies, but all the latest Marvel movies too. I had every intention to go see The Avengers, but then I watched Thor and that, alas, unfortunately destroyed any desire to see The Avengers. Thor was pretentious, bombastic, headache-inducing and filled with bad CGI. It just made me think, oh man, fuck superheroes, this is why when I was a kid I could never stand any of this lame-ass dick waving passing for narrative.

I guess I liked the first two X-Men and Spiderman movies because they felt like more character pieces, I guess? I'm not sure. I feel bad on a certain level that I don't want to see any of the Chris Nolan Batman movies, but in a way I also resent it, because there's a lot of pressure in my circle to not only see these movies, but think they're brilliant. You'd think there would be less peer pressure by the time you're in your mid-thirties, but it seems, in some ways, there's more.

So there you go. That's my two cents.
posted by suburbanbeatnik at 4:58 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


Three stars from Ebert is traditionally what I consider to be a "decent rental".

He gave Prometheus four stars. And his "best of the 2000s list" left me speechless. In the bad way.

I doubt I'll ever get my hopes up from one of his reviews again.
posted by Egg Shen at 5:19 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


suburbanbeatnik: "I feel bad on a certain level that I don't want to see any of the Chris Nolan Batman movies, but in a way I also resent it, because there's a lot of pressure in my circle to not only see these movies, but think they're brilliant."

I won't say that you should like Nolan's Batman movies, but I would caution that they stand out in pretty stark contrast to the other current superhero movie franchises. In fact, I'd put them somewhat outside of the whole genre. They're mildly intellectual action-adventure movies that happen to feature a superhero.

Obviously, in hindsight it paid off, but I'm amazed that DC and the studios let Nolan have as much leeway as they did – Batman Begins did a lot of things that were pretty far outside of the mainstream for its time.

If nothing else, I think that Nolan's Batman films remain considerably darker than any other current franchise.
posted by schmod at 5:26 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


TBH a lot of the "serious" "real world" veneer falls away once you start paying any attention to the plots.
posted by Artw at 5:29 PM on July 18, 2012


then I watched Thor and that, alas, unfortunately destroyed any desire to see The Avengers

You'll only have to wait a couple of years for them to "reboot the franchise".
posted by Egg Shen at 5:31 PM on July 18, 2012


Definitely going to see this over the weekend. I really liked what Nolan did with Batman in the first two movies (although they weren't perfect) and want to see the last chapter before it gets too spoiled for me. Plus I'm really a sucker for seeing big epic movies like that in the theater. Also a few friends are extras in it so it will be fun to see if I can pick them out.
posted by octothorpe at 5:40 PM on July 18, 2012


The Most Horrifying is Yet to Come! 5 Insane Cliffhangers from the 1960’s Batman
posted by the man of twists and turns at 5:53 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


The Dark Knight & 60's Robin
posted by Quack at 5:57 PM on July 18, 2012


I guess I liked the first two X-Men and Spiderman movies because they felt like more character pieces, I guess? I'm not sure. I feel bad on a certain level that I don't want to see any of the Chris Nolan Batman movies, but in a way I also resent it, because there's a lot of pressure in my circle to not only see these movies, but think they're brilliant.

I'm like you in my biases and annoyances – I tend to enjoy superhero movies if there's a good performance to latch onto, and otherwise zzzz. The Dark Knight, of course, has Heath Ledger, and that's a good performance; most all of them are pretty good exactly. I think you'd enjoy it.

The Dark Knight doesn't make any sense if you think about it too much, specifically from the angle of what could the Joker possibly be doing in the background to cause everything to go to shit like that, but it's fun to watch.

No pressure!
posted by furiousthought at 5:59 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


("pretty good in fact" is what I meant, there)
posted by furiousthought at 6:01 PM on July 18, 2012


[Fun time's over, no more trolling. Go to MetaTalk if you don't want to actually have a conversation here.]
posted by jessamyn at 6:02 PM on July 18, 2012


They're mildly intellectual action-adventure movies that happen to feature a superhero.

For what it's worth, I think this is the truest summary of the Nolan BatMovies going. Make of that what you will.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 6:02 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


Oh man. It turns out The Hub have outdone all of the linked trailers: BTAS Dark Knight Rises trailer with BTAS actors redoing the dialogue
posted by Artw at 6:28 PM on July 18, 2012 [2 favorites]


Oh man. It turns out The Hub have outdone all of the linked trailers: BTAS Dark Knight Rises trailer with BTAS actors redoing the dialogue

win!
posted by device55 at 6:39 PM on July 18, 2012


You know, it's a good thing I was going to go see this movie anyway as otherwise with watching all of these trailers in a row and so closely I probably just Incepted myself.
posted by Artw at 6:42 PM on July 18, 2012


I feel bad on a certain level that I don't want to see any of the Chris Nolan Batman movies, but in a way I also resent it, because there's a lot of pressure in my circle to not only see these movies, but think they're brilliant.

It's taken me a long time to actually say this in public but I didn't like The Dark Knight. And although I loved Inception, I'm not really looking forward to the new Batman, which I'll probably see on DVD. I was actually very glad I got spoiled for some of the major plot points of the middle one because I would have been pretty upset with it going in unspoiled. I'll be looking for spoilers for this one actively because there are some plot details from the stories the movie is pulling from that I want confirmed or denied before I see it.

(I confess: I'll see it if it has Cillian Murphy. I'll see anything that isn't too squickily violent if he's in it. I watched In Time over him, for crying out loud. 2:45 of potentially lousy Bat-film is nothing compared to that.)
posted by immlass at 7:25 PM on July 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


I still think Bane is the lamest villian in the Batman universe.

I don't have anywhere else to ask this: of all the possible settings, why did they pick "Grover" for the Bane voice modulator?
posted by ceribus peribus at 7:40 PM on July 18, 2012


I'm not going to this, but it's not because comic book superheroes are dumb. It's because they're currently nearly inescapable.
posted by JHarris at 7:55 PM on July 18, 2012


I really enjoyed TDKR. It was no TDK, but it still worked. Dragged on a bit at the beginning but it found its feet. Anne Hathaway was impressive as Selina Kyle, that's for sure.
posted by liquorice at 12:53 AM on July 19, 2012


'The Dark Knight Rises' Trailer with Pee-wee Herman Voices
posted by homunculus at 12:56 AM on July 19, 2012 [1 favorite]


I still think Bane is the lamest villian in the Batman universe.

That's only because you haven't realized his true secret.
posted by homunculus at 1:03 AM on July 19, 2012


I never want to live in the grim hopeless awful world where adults can't get excited about dumb/smart/silly/intelligent/anyothersorta comic book superheroes.

I dunno... Grim, hopeless, awful pretty much sums up Nolan's Batman world. It's just TOO stoic and dark. "Begins" is probably the truest Batman film adaptation, but TDK was just lacking in heart and energy. And I loved Inception a ton. Granted, Batman isn't Spider-Man or Iron Man, but still.

And TDK's plot had more cliches, conveniences, and convolutedness than the comics, which is saying something considering this is "serious" live-action, and I'm sure part 3 is no different.

Yeah, give me TAS any day. Those were fun, yet mature. And Hamill's hysterical, theatrical Joker actually felt like how the Joker should be. I'm just glad that most of the current superhero franchises haven't yet followed Nolan's lead in going overboard with super darkness. I guess the next test is Man of Steel?
posted by TheSecretDecoderRing at 1:38 AM on July 19, 2012 [2 favorites]


Not bothering with Snyderman myself, it being a foregone conclusion that I'll hate it.
posted by Artw at 2:30 AM on July 19, 2012


That's only because you haven't realized his true secret.

You are a bad, bad person.
posted by gauche at 7:01 AM on July 19, 2012


SPOILER ALERT: Mitt Romney revealed when Bain is unmasked...
posted by Renoroc at 7:15 AM on July 19, 2012


Renoroc:

Yes.

And again.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 10:06 AM on July 19, 2012


If nothing else, I think that Nolan's Batman films remain considerably darker than any other current franchise.

Yes, Nolan definitely does try to make his Batman movies "dark" and "edgy".

(I was actually impressed that the Bale Batman voice seemed to be restrained in the first theatrical trailer I saw for TDKR. Then he said "this isn't a car" in the graveliest of gravel voices possible and I just about burst out laughing.)
posted by kmz at 10:08 AM on July 19, 2012


Anyone in Philadelphia wanna go to a midnight showing?

Everyone I know is too cool for Batman.
posted by PJLandis at 10:58 AM on July 19, 2012


I'd actually point at the Grant Morrison book for anyone seriously interested in the question of why grown-ass adults are as fascinated by something as transparently silly as superheroes.

(Also some wacky pseudoscience involving sunspots)


Oh, wow, Supergods. I just finished reading it a few weeks ago and it's something I'm cautious about recommending. It weaves back and forth between several threads: reflection on the role of superheroes in our culture/a history of superhero comics; Morrison's personal journey from wee lad reading comics to noted comic artist; and Morrison's, for lack of a better word, spiritual relationship with the medium and fiction in general. I came expecting the first one and a little of the second and for me it was always a bit of a jolt to switch from the reflections on the evolution of superhero tropes to the more mystic anecdotes about the various visitations, trances, and the like that he experienced.

A thoughtful reflection on the interplay between superhero fiction and the zeitgeist is definitely in there, though, and it's one of the few places I've been able to get that kind of commentary other than MetaFilter and the Ask Chris columns. (I know that can't be it -- what are other good sources for comic book overthinking?)

SPOILER ALERT: Mitt Romney revealed when Bain is unmasked...

See also the Bane Capital twitter account.

In the same vein as PJLandis, are there any mefites going to either of the marathon Batman premieres in downtown Chicago this evening? Memail me!
posted by jdherg at 12:17 PM on July 19, 2012 [1 favorite]


Everyone knows Romney doubles as Mr Fantastic. And triples as White Nick Fury.
posted by TheSecretDecoderRing at 2:41 PM on July 19, 2012


Batman-ish: What Comic-Book Movies Are Missing
posted by homunculus at 3:24 PM on July 19, 2012


Somewhat related...anyone see the new Spider-Man? When Spidey rescues the child from the flaming car and has to remove his mask to assuage the childs fear?

They stole that scene from Batman Beyond. Unmasked, S03E52. And as always, Batman did it better.
posted by PJLandis at 5:23 PM on July 19, 2012 [3 favorites]


Guys, given the events of the past day or so, I'm sure it won't surprise you to learn that my interest in seeing the latest Batman movie has dropped to approximately -100. In fact, given the particularly loathsome wingnut anti-gun control rhetoric that has erupted amongst my more conservative fanboy friends on threads about this movie, DKR has, alas, become pretty tainted to me. Needless to say I am in no mood to see some grimdark action hero saga with all this shit hovering in the back of my mind.

In fact I think it is safe to say at this point that I will never see any of Nolan's Batman movies.

...Oh well.
posted by suburbanbeatnik at 7:20 PM on July 20, 2012


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