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"Manos" Revisited: Live in theaters tonight, the Rifftrax crew re-visit one of most treasured MST3K experiments of all time. Why not get ready by watching the "making of" documentary "Hotel Torgo." Or, for the truly brave, the entire film.
posted by Otis (82 comments total) 33 users marked this as a favorite

 
The restored 16mm workprint just had a showing as well, it seems.
posted by griphus at 10:22 AM on August 16, 2012


I so wish I could have gone to this. I hope they sell the performance on DVD.
posted by JHarris at 10:22 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Here is a complete list of participating theaters.
posted by coolxcool=rad at 10:24 AM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Or you can play the new Manos video game, now on iOS.
posted by inturnaround at 10:25 AM on August 16, 2012




From the description on the YouTube Manos page: The book Hollywood's Most Wanted lists Manos as the #2 in the list of "The Worst Movies Ever Made", following Plan 9 from Outer Space

Hollywood's Most Wanted's facts are sorely in need of updating, because Manos is far worse than Plan 9. Plan 9 is a fairly typical 50s B movie kind of thing, just with worse writing, acting, special effects and direction than usual, but Manos is something startling and different. You laugh through Plan 9; you cringe through Manos. As a result you can enjoy Plan 9 From Outer Space without riffing (and in fact the MSK guys purposely avoided it until RiffTrax finally covered it), but to do that with Manos risks betraying one's soul to the Great Old Ones. Even riffed, it's only recommended to diehard MSTies.
posted by JHarris at 10:29 AM on August 16, 2012 [7 favorites]


The Manos game inturnaround mentions isn't that bad actually, although the airplane level (airplane level?!) will give most people fits.
posted by JHarris at 10:31 AM on August 16, 2012


How fortuitous, I've just been blazing through the best MST3K episodes (available in their entirety on the yous tube). Does any have any preference between the current rifftrax and the cinematic titanic output?
posted by Think_Long at 10:31 AM on August 16, 2012


Aw man, now I'm considering paying $14 to see this. ($14, really?!)
posted by uncleozzy at 10:32 AM on August 16, 2012


Might have to go to this. I went to the Plan 9 from Outer Space one, and it was a lot of fun to see it with a large audience... reminded me of my college days when a big group of people would get together to watch new episodes of MST3K.

They also do showings of Rifftrack stuff at Stone Brewery in CA... I've been to one of the Twilight movies and Jaws. The guys showed up for Jaws and talked a little, so that was fun. They're showing 300 next Wednesday for those near San Diego, but I don't know whether they'll actually be there... I'm guessing not.
posted by Huck500 at 10:33 AM on August 16, 2012


8:00 at Union Square anyone? Would a Meta meetup be warranted?
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 10:36 AM on August 16, 2012


I've already bought the tickets, and I'll be wearing my shirt.
posted by Faint of Butt at 10:48 AM on August 16, 2012


I watch Rifftrax with friends all the time, and we have a big group going tonight to see this at our local theater. The shorts that precede the film are always great.
posted by aabbbiee at 10:50 AM on August 16, 2012


I'm totally going to this, and I am so excited. If any NC MeFites are thinking about going, I'll be at the Cary show...
posted by Rock Steady at 10:51 AM on August 16, 2012


My 9yo son loves loves loves MST3K. Is the original Manos MST3K episode on YT? Does anyone have another favourite episode?
posted by KokuRyu at 10:52 AM on August 16, 2012


You laugh through Plan 9; you cringe through Manos.

Manos lulled me into a stupor that took at least an hour after the final credits to shake off. Watching it reminded me of Carla Bley's immortal assessment of The Shaggs: "They bring my mind to a complete halt".
posted by ryanshepard at 10:52 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


tHe maSteR doEs nOt aPproVe oF thE fAct tHat i aM sEveRaL tiMe zoNes toO faR awAy tO sEe thIs.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 10:56 AM on August 16, 2012 [4 favorites]


It says sad things about my life, I think, that I couldn't find anyone to go see this with me.
posted by gurple at 10:57 AM on August 16, 2012


KokoRyu: Space Mutiny!
posted by zjacreman at 10:57 AM on August 16, 2012 [3 favorites]


I couldn't, either, gurple. I'm going anyway.
posted by zjacreman at 10:59 AM on August 16, 2012 [3 favorites]


Does any have any preference between the current rifftrax and the cinematic titanic output?

Rifftrax historically did mostly current movies and old educational shorts. They also have the most output with a new short every week lately.

Recently, though, they started doing older movies that are older like once a month that aren't studio releases.

Cinematic Titanic has a more robust live event business and their releases are fewer and far between, but they're always a home run. I don't really prefer one over the other to be perfectly honest. They're both great and complement each other nicely.
posted by inturnaround at 11:00 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Or you can play the new Manos video game, now on iOS.

This comment just cost me $1.99.
posted by prize bull octorok at 11:01 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Manos--hands of fate! Ok now that that is out of my system...

HOW and WHY do these movies get made? I just don't understand how a film company can put up thousands/millions of dollars on god awful films, knowing damn well they're just stupid, and they get made?
posted by stormpooper at 11:07 AM on August 16, 2012


This is a long shot, but I'll be the redhead knitting at the Saginaw showing if anybody wants to meet up.
posted by MaritaCov at 11:07 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


I'll be there. The Rifftrax live events usually make me laugh until I fear I'll puke.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 11:11 AM on August 16, 2012


zjacreman: "I couldn't, either, gurple. I'm going anyway."

Me too. Actually, my wife would have come with me, but she's not a trufan like I am, and an extra $12 + babysitter makes a difference these days, so I am going stag as well.
posted by Rock Steady at 11:17 AM on August 16, 2012


stormpooper, that's just it. Manos, and The Room and Birdemic, weren't made by companies but by individuals. That strong artistic vision can produce greatness or awfulness.

The enlightened eventually discovers that the greatness and the awfulness are the same thing, viewed through different lenses. Either way, they show a lot more personality than, say, Transformers, or Battlefield Earth, or Battleship, or whatever other big budget action movie is stinking up theaters this month.
posted by JHarris at 11:18 AM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Just a reminder that one of the embryonic events in this genre was Woody Allen's "What's Up, Tiger Lily", in which he took a cheap Japanese 60s spy flick and redubbed it with gibberish. Of course, he disavowed it almost immediately, and considers his own directorial career to have started with "Take the Money and Run", but it's amusing to watch this as a riff movie (and it was available on Netflix streaming, at least fairly recently).
posted by The Sprout Queen at 11:22 AM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Come say hello at the Westbury NY show. I won't be a knitting redhead, however.
posted by dr_dank at 11:24 AM on August 16, 2012


Here's an Entertainment Weekly article on the making of Manos: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1068572,00.html
posted by AJaffe at 11:30 AM on August 16, 2012


I can't believe I'm spending actual money to see Manos, but I'm a huge MST/Rifftrax/CT fan so I must go. One nice thing is that the closest place it's showing here is the Oxford cinema, about an hour away for Mr. Ouisch and me but only 15 minutes away from my good friend who loves MST and lives in a tiny town where cool stuff like this rarely comes to visit.
posted by Oriole Adams at 11:33 AM on August 16, 2012


I've heard tell that Birdemic will be liveriffed by the Rifftrax guys this October. I'd expect an official announcement tonight if that is true.
posted by inturnaround at 11:38 AM on August 16, 2012


Potential viewers should take the Manos Test to see if you can handle one hour of The Master's hypnotic powers.
posted by crapmatic at 11:39 AM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


KokoRyu:

Manos is indeed on Yutoob.

If you're looking for good MST episodes on YT then please watch "Werewolf" post haste. I have belly-laughed through that one many, many times, and it still murders me.
Though there are some mild references to sex and terrible prosthetic fangs, so be warned if that is something you don't want the kiddo subjected to.
posted by Alonzo T. Calm at 12:03 PM on August 16, 2012 [3 favorites]


If you're looking for good MST episodes on YT then please watch "Werewolf " post haste.

"The windup... and the pitch..."
"Whar-wulf?"

I AM DEAD OF LAUGHING.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:05 PM on August 16, 2012 [3 favorites]


DO SOMETHING
posted by Elly Vortex at 12:10 PM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


HOW and WHY do these movies get made?

As JHarris pointed out, this particular movie was made by a driven--but inexperienced and untalented--individual, with a cast of amateurs. One interesting detail in the EW article AJaffe linked to is the fact that the cinematographer started getting bored with working on the (unpaid) project, so when there were mistakes (like filming a nighttime scene in broad daylight), he told the director that they could be fixed in postproduction. Which was a lie, but the director didn't know any better.
posted by mr_roboto at 12:19 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


I have my ticket and am excited about this -- I've been watching old MST episodes in preparation.
posted by camcgee at 12:29 PM on August 16, 2012


"Mister, you keep those Hands of Fate at ten o'clock and two o'clock!"
posted by eoden at 12:45 PM on August 16, 2012


PULL MY FINGER!

That was the bit that destroyed me.

Man, that film made "Plan 9" look like the Godfather.
posted by Decani at 1:12 PM on August 16, 2012


I hope they ordered pizza well in advance.

(DEET doot doot DEET DEET doot doot DEET DEET doot doot ...)
posted by entropicamericana at 1:37 PM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


Making my arrangments to view as we speak!

Stoked!
posted by Ruthless Bunny at 1:39 PM on August 16, 2012


After posting the one-hour "Manos Hands of Fate" on YouTube, I got a dispute notice that the content is owned by some outfit called "Dance All Day". The source I used comes entirely from the Archive.org Manos Hands of Fate page. Other Manos: Hands of Fate videos on YouTube also show the same claims from Dance All Day.

So.... apparently this "Dance All Day" outfit is generating revenue from other people's editing work on a public domain film? Googling their name it appears they've also co-opted a lot of peoples' own material. Is this some sort of new fraudulent business model?
posted by crapmatic at 1:44 PM on August 16, 2012


Be sure to get your complimentary crazy bread!
posted by El Sabor Asiatico at 2:00 PM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


please watch "Werewolf" post haste.

They're establishing the hell out of this building!
posted by mediated self at 2:19 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


please watch "Werewolf" post haste.

"You is a war-wilf?"
posted by dhens at 2:34 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


I will be there with a yellow shirt featuring a clown puking up a rainbow.

This really is a bad movie, to the point where it's kinda creepy and depressing. Anyway, since it's Mike and the gang I gotta do it. Still, kinda wish it were a Gamera movie ...
posted by krinklyfig at 2:40 PM on August 16, 2012


Will be at Century 9 in SF.
posted by krinklyfig at 2:48 PM on August 16, 2012


I have fond memories of the MST3K MOO from way back in the day, but the function written to emulate Torgo-speak is right up there.

tHE MaSTeR woULD nOt aPPrOvE oF tHIs sHOwInG
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 2:50 PM on August 16, 2012


I'll be there tonight, flying solo as well. There are lots of theaters here in the L.A. area showing it, but I think I've decided on the Universal Citywalk theaters.

Also, as their site mentions, the pre-movie "Slide Show" can be pretty amusing as well, so it's worth it to get there a bit early. They also play songs by "The Rifftones" and the occasional Johnathon Coulton song.

If you want to really get a feel for how the show goes, the full "live" version of Reefer Madness is available on Hulu, including several shorts, and introductions, etc.
posted by ShutterBun at 2:52 PM on August 16, 2012


(incidentally, this is a really nicely done FPP. Lots of great links, beyond just the announcement)
posted by ShutterBun at 3:16 PM on August 16, 2012


"Manos lulled me into a stupor that took at least an hour after the final credits to shake off. Watching it reminded me of Carla Bley's immortal assessment of The Shaggs: "They bring my mind to a complete halt".
posted by ryanshepard

I watched it on archive.org, where the sound syncs up ok. I put it on as I went to bed, thinking I would fall asleep to it, and I just couldn't stop watching it!"
posted by marienbad at 3:16 PM on August 16, 2012


Mr. bakerina and I will be at Century 16 in Mountain View, CA, 40 miles or so south of krinklyfig!
posted by bakerina at 3:17 PM on August 16, 2012


"HOW and WHY do these movies get made? I just don't understand how a film company can put up thousands/millions of dollars on god awful films, knowing damn well they're just stupid, and they get made?
posted by stormpooper

As commented, this was made by an individual ametuer. It was actually made by a fertiliser salesman to win a bet. Virtually no-one got paid. No one knew what they were doing.

See Manos on Wikipedia.
posted by marienbad at 3:20 PM on August 16, 2012


Manos.

Uh huh. Sure.

Well, you know, Manos.

Right, not in so many words.

Manos.

The Hands of Fate?

Yes.

Manos, coming up on drive time.

Manosthehandsoffate.

Manos.
posted by ShutterBun at 6:39 PM on August 16, 2012


I MISSED it????? AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH! Debbie's outta here.
posted by bloomicy at 7:03 PM on August 16, 2012


I ended up going after all! Saw it by myself at the Regal in Savannah GA. Wow, what a sucky theater. I was overcharged at literally every trun: Fandango charged me $1.25 for a "convenience charge," putting $5 into the change machine in their tiny game room gave me five bucks' worth of tokens to put in a selection of six machines only one of them worth playing, and the snack bar charged $12.25 for medium popcorn and drink with no refills.

Still though, it was worth it. The RiffTrax guys were in fine form. The two shorts were "Welcome Back Normal," about a put-upon traveller subject to multiple unpleasant occurances, and "At Your Fingertips: Cylinders," an education short the purpose of which is to tell kids about everything they can do with cylinders.

I have many jokes from MST3K Manos memorized and none of the ones used in the movie struck me as familiar. They really did write all new jokes for it. After the movie they showed a promo video for the upcoming sequel some misguided fools are making. The theater was remarkably full of people, it wasn't packed but there are more MSTies on hand than I expected.
posted by JHarris at 7:06 PM on August 16, 2012


Wow, that was fun. As JHarris says, they were in fine form. I had only seen The Manos episode once or twice, and I really forgot how bad that movie was. I mean, it barely qualifies as a movie at all. The scene with Torgo taking a full 30 seconds to stand up off his dirt pile bed ("at least, I hope it's dirt") is really quite amazing. I will be there for Birdemic in October.
posted by Rock Steady at 7:23 PM on August 16, 2012


The skewering of "Welcome Back Norman" was worth the price of admission.
posted by O Blitiri at 7:39 PM on August 16, 2012 [3 favorites]


The showing in downtown Seattle sold out while we were in line, sadly. But it sounded great, and I'll catch it on DVD. And Birdemic is coming in October!

Shock and Terror, guys!
posted by gc at 8:47 PM on August 16, 2012


I'll be curious to see how they re-do Birdemic. That is already one of my favorite Rifftrax.

Just hittin' on, hittin' on, hittin' on family members
Got some attractive cousins

posted by dhens at 9:05 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


That was excellent! Could have used a little ventilation in the theater, but otherwise totally great.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:48 PM on August 16, 2012


Welcome Back, Norman. And your delightful catchphrase:

"Uuuuuughhhnh"
posted by ShutterBun at 10:08 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


I have so many cylinder based craft inspirations now! If only there were a pinterest thinger relevant to my interests...
posted by Cold Lurkey at 10:11 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


Hmmm...it seems that I accidentally left my iPhone audio recorder turned on during the show. Whoops!

For those who are curious, here's the (unriffed) short: Welcome Back, Norman
posted by ShutterBun at 10:36 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


It was so great! Laughed and cried and had a hard time breathing all at once.
posted by SarahElizaP at 10:39 PM on August 16, 2012


My face hurts.
posted by MrVisible at 10:41 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


What was up with that Norman thing, anyway?
posted by potsmokinghippieoverlord at 11:00 PM on August 16, 2012


Norman is a way of life.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:20 PM on August 16, 2012 [1 favorite]


He's the platonic ideal of a Def Comedy Jam impression of a white guy.
posted by ShutterBun at 11:37 PM on August 16, 2012 [2 favorites]


After the movie they showed a promo video for the upcoming sequel some misguided fools are making.

Yeah, I always have mixed feelings about that. Bad movies aren't nearly as fun when they're self-aware or trying to be funny. The very best horrible movies are made by people with real vision of some scope but serious limitations in execution, and are unintentionally hilarious. Or at least they're made by someone with a purely pragmatic approach to low-budget, like Roger Corman.

The theater was remarkably full of people, it wasn't packed but there are more MSTies on hand than I expected.

It was pretty full on Market St in SF. Got tickets ahead of time, so not sure if it sold out, but the theater was packed. Everyone was totally into it, which was the best.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:41 PM on August 16, 2012


Turns out there's a whole series of Norman films.
posted by Oriole Adams at 12:25 AM on August 17, 2012


Norman is like the department store brand of existential dread.
posted by krinklyfig at 4:40 AM on August 17, 2012 [2 favorites]


I think last night packed as many laughs as humanly possible into a movie-going experience. Bravo. Can't wait for Birdemic.
posted by starman at 5:02 AM on August 17, 2012 [1 favorite]


I also appreciated the faux movie theater slide show before the movie. The best was the one headed Movie Mistakes (y'know, for funny continuity errors and bloopers and stuff), but the only text on the slide was "Sam Worthington."
posted by Rock Steady at 5:14 AM on August 17, 2012 [2 favorites]


It's a good thing that a traveling salesman has no idea how airport parking lots work.
posted by dr_dank at 5:45 AM on August 17, 2012 [1 favorite]


I noticed those too Rock Steady. They were great! They should put those up on the web somewhere.
posted by JHarris at 8:19 AM on August 17, 2012


My cat, Torgo, approves of this FPP.
posted by Room 641-A at 8:55 AM on August 17, 2012


I was there at the live performance! The director's son and the master's blond wife were also in attendance, and afterward Torgo and the Master from the pizza sketch (and the sequel) posed for photos. Sadly the Rifftrax guys didn't stick around, but from where I sat, Mike looked like he had barely aged. Just snagged my ticket for Birdemic, too!
posted by Locative at 11:04 AM on August 17, 2012 [2 favorites]


Here's some of the slides I remember (paraphrases as well as possible):

"Movie Mistakes: Sam Worthington" (my absolute favorite)

Name the soundtrack this song is from: "Just Hangin out, hangin out, hangin out with my family, havin ourselves a party" Answer: Theme from The Godfather

Joss Whedon (pause 2 minutes for cheers and applause from rabid fans)

Movie Quotes: "I have doubts, I have such doubts" - Meryl Streep in "Doubt" (actual quote)

The Spiderman franchise has been rebooted 6 times since you sat down.

Statistically speaking, someone sitting in your row is a cast member on "Game of Thrones"

JJ Abrams is planning on a feature film of "Lost" that will explain all of the fans unanswered questions. It will be 78 hours long.

Name the movie soundtrack: "BWAAAAAMMM! BWAAAAAMMM! BWAAAAAAMMM!" (repeated for 56 minutes) Answer: "Inception"

Movie Mistakes: Casablanca is considered by many critics to be a perfect movie, despite the absence of even one rappin' granny.

Did You Know?: Loking up what happened to the guy who played Fred Savage's rival in "The Wizard" is an easy way to get really depressed and creeped out.*

The star of Air Bud: Golden Reciever (did a bunch of stereotypical "out of control movie star on-set antics; I can't remember what they were)

"Lifeless eyes...black eyes, like a doll's eyes." -Quint from "Jaws" upon meeting Megan Fox.

Movie Quotes: "No. No. No no no. No no. No no no no no no. No. No. No no no no no." - Transformers: Dark of the Moon

The next Avengers movie will be nothing but 2 hours of credits, followed by 3 minutes of footage of Samuel L. Jackson recruiting members for the next Avengers movie.

Movie Stars: Just Like Us! Mark Ruffalo breathes in air, which he uses to oxygenate his blood, and expels carbon dioxide, just like we do!

"Pew pew! Come on, Loki! I totally got you!" -Hawkeye in "The Avengers"

If you actually get your giant tub of popcorn refilled, you're legally required to register your ass as a deadly weapon.

Movie Quotes: "Transformers is an ugly film with terrible characters, awful dialogue and an incoherent plot. It's one of the more depressing times I've ever had in a cinema." -Roger Ebert

Movie Mistakes: Your aunt Nancy went to see "Ted" but wound up accidentally seeing "Magic Mike" instead. Yep, total accident. All three times.


*yes, it totally is
posted by ShutterBun at 9:34 PM on August 17, 2012 [2 favorites]


Some corrections & additions, maybe between us we can come up with a definitive list:

The Game of Thrones one actually stated that two people on your row, statistically speaking, are cast members.

The Inception theme song is "BWAAAAAAAAAAAAM (72 times)"

One of the Air Bud dog's things was staring a long time at yoga moms in the park.

"No no no no no no no" (etc) was a quote from "Transformers 3"

One you missed:
Movie quotes: "Alvin, your antics no longer annoy me. I'm going to go take some pills and lie down." - David Seville in the next Chipmunks movie
posted by JHarris at 12:01 AM on August 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


Two from the Something Awful RiffTrax thread:

*MOVIE QUOTES
"I don't feel like they respected the characters enough." -Guy who voiced Yoda in the Star Wars prequels talking about 2011's The Muppets.

*MOVIE MISTAKES
The makers of Prometheus forgot to add the part that makes sense.

The thread also had screenshots of some of the cards, which I've transcribed because I have no life:

*DID YOU KNOW? Looking up what happened to the kid who played Fred Savage's rival in "The Wizard" is the fastest way to get really depressed and uncomfortable!

*MOVIE QUOTES
"Pew, pew! Hey, I got you Loki!" - Hawkeye, The Avengers

*TV TIME
Experts predict the next season of The Simpsons to be more depressing than Requiem For A Dream

*DID YOU KNOW?
There's a tense scene in the new Die Hard movie where the villain forces Bruce Willis to walk into Comic-Con wearing a sign that says "I Think Firefly is kinda overrated."

*MOVIE MISTAKES
Despite being hands down the most popular character in the comic strip, Odie's owner Lyman was for some reason left out of both Garfield movies

*DID YOU KNOW?
The second Avengers movie will just be credits, followed by 2 hours of Samuel L. Jackson recruiting characters for the THIRD Avengers movie.

*MOVIE MISTAKES
Your aunt Nancy meant to see Ted, but got mixed up and wound up in the theater for Magic Mike instead. Yep. Total mistake. All three times.

*DID YOU KNOW?
The Spider-Man franchise has been rebooted six times since you sat down in this theater.

*MOVIE HAIKUS
No no no no no,
no no no no no no no
no no no no no.
- Transformers 3
posted by JHarris at 7:24 AM on August 18, 2012 [1 favorite]


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