At long last, congressman, have you no shame?
August 30, 2012 4:22 PM Subscribe
Is the media turning on Ryan and Romney? After weeks of questionable attacks on Obama's relaxation of rules welfare reform and Medicare "cuts," even some conservative press outlets are using words like "deceiving" and "blatant lies" in relation to Paul Ryan's convention speech. Fox News - National Review (mild) - Bloomberg News - The American Conservative - Andrew Sullivan - American Conservative #2
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blatant lies? or not blatant enough?
posted by boo_radley at 4:24 PM on August 30, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by boo_radley at 4:24 PM on August 30, 2012 [1 favorite]
The media is not turning on Ryan and Romney. The media's hit the breaking point at which it can no longer pretend that the two platforms are sufficiently equivalent.
posted by explosion at 4:24 PM on August 30, 2012
posted by explosion at 4:24 PM on August 30, 2012
If the apparent lies are so obvious to the media, then how can conseratives, involved in media trust the people they are supposed to support should those liars get in office?
posted by Postroad at 4:26 PM on August 30, 2012
posted by Postroad at 4:26 PM on August 30, 2012
I read the Fox News piece through my Pulse reader on my tablet under the Top News entry, which is, to say, unintentionally. When I saw the source was Fox News, I scrolled up and saw "opinion" but was still surprised by a willingness to use the word "deceiving" and then hit it point-by-point and appear to take a balanced review of the speech to heart. At least as balanced as you'd find there.
Sally Kohn, the author of the piece, appears to be a regular Obama apologist (Obamapologist) there, but it's at least a bit more than lip service to their fair & balanced shtick they normally steamroll over with ludicrous talking heads.
posted by disillusioned at 4:27 PM on August 30, 2012
Sally Kohn, the author of the piece, appears to be a regular Obama apologist (Obamapologist) there, but it's at least a bit more than lip service to their fair & balanced shtick they normally steamroll over with ludicrous talking heads.
posted by disillusioned at 4:27 PM on August 30, 2012
"Quite simply, the Romney campaign isn’t adhering to the minimum standards required for a real policy conversation. Even if you bend over backward to be generous to them — as the Tax Policy Center did when they granted the Romney campaign a slew of essentially impossible premises in order to evaluate their tax plan — you often find yourself forced into the same conclusion: This doesn’t add up, this doesn’t have enough details to be evaluated, or this isn’t true.
"I don’t like that conclusion. It doesn’t look “fair” when you say that. We’ve been conditioned to want to give both sides relatively equal praise and blame, and the fact of the matter is, I would like to give both sides relatively equal praise and blame. I’d personally feel better if our coverage didn’t look so lopsided. But first the campaigns have to be relatively equal. So far in this campaign, you can look fair, or you can be fair, but you can’t be both."
(hat tip to ob1quixote)
posted by weston at 4:28 PM on August 30, 2012
"I don’t like that conclusion. It doesn’t look “fair” when you say that. We’ve been conditioned to want to give both sides relatively equal praise and blame, and the fact of the matter is, I would like to give both sides relatively equal praise and blame. I’d personally feel better if our coverage didn’t look so lopsided. But first the campaigns have to be relatively equal. So far in this campaign, you can look fair, or you can be fair, but you can’t be both."
(hat tip to ob1quixote)
posted by weston at 4:28 PM on August 30, 2012
Does this mean that maybe the media will actually report fact-checking and not ~report the controversy~? No way. That would be, like, actually doing their jobs!
posted by sonmi at 4:29 PM on August 30, 2012
posted by sonmi at 4:29 PM on August 30, 2012
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Sigh.
Idiots.
posted by daq at 4:24 PM on August 30, 2012