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	<title>Comments on: Build your own Gossamer Condor</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:59:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Build your own Gossamer Condor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor</link>	
		<description>The first human-powered aircraft to achieve sustained and controlled flight, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.propdesigner.co.uk/condor.pdf&quot;&gt;Gossamer Condor&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(6.3 MB PDF)&lt;/small&gt;, now belongs to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://airandspace.si.edu/webimages/highres/2005-22898h.jpg&quot;&gt;Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(2.2 MB JPG)&lt;/small&gt;. So you&apos;ll need to &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.propdesigner.co.uk/html/gossamer_condor_drawings.html&quot;&gt;build your own&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/64351/Good-Night-Sweet-Icarus&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:23:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Egg Shen</dc:creator>		<category>technology</category>		<category>aviation</category>		<category>plane</category>		<category>aircraft</category>		<category>energy</category>		<category>humanpowered</category>		<category>pioneer</category>		<category>design</category>		<category>plan</category>		<category>schematic</category>		<category>blueprint</category>		<category>construction</category>		<category>diy</category>		<category>smithsonian</category>		<category>museum</category>
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		<title>By: ghharr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543752</link>	
		<description>And the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland_Gamera_II_Human_Powered_Helicopter&quot;&gt;University of Maryland Gamera II&lt;/a&gt; human-powered quad-copter&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=g3oUkyMae0c&quot;&gt; just hit a record of 8ft&lt;/a&gt; in altitude, and is huge and cool (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/103698/Video-of-the-first-woman-in-a-human-powered-helicopter&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<title>By: cjorgensen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543799</link>	
		<description>I could have never got the Gamera off the ground. I also don&apos;t see the point in trying. It flies in a gym and you can&apos;t control it? Give me the Condor and let me fly!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:32:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gilrain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543805</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543799&quot;&gt;cjorgensen&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/em&gt; I also don&apos;t see the point in trying.&lt;/small&gt;

Well, there&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_Prize&quot;&gt;$250,000 prize&lt;/a&gt;. However, it&apos;s probably mostly just about the achievement.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:36:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: morganw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543826</link>	
		<description>Hmmm...  it&apos;s good that there are drawings, but if you&apos;re going to go to that much effort, wouldn&apos;t you want to spend a little more $$ and use carbon fiber like MacCready&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossamer_Albatross&quot;&gt;later&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Challenger&quot;&gt;planes&lt;/a&gt;?  It was pretty awesome to see the Condor up close at Air &amp;amp; Space and see the damned aluminum tube main spar.  How they managed to get that thing in the air? Genius &amp;amp; a world-class cyclist.

MacCready basically also helped invent modern gliding with his &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_to_fly&quot;&gt;Ring&lt;/a&gt;.  Humans can&apos;t sense gradual climb &amp;amp; fall, so need instruments.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:00:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Egg Shen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543835</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;a world-class cyclist&lt;/em&gt;

Specifically, &lt;a href=&quot;https://sites.google.com/site/bryanlallen/&quot;&gt;Bryan Allen&lt;/a&gt; - who seems like he would be awesome to hang out with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:04:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Egg Shen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: scruss</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543873</link>	
		<description>I had to be moved on from the Air &amp;amp; Space Museum. I just stood and gawped at the Condor. All the other exhibits? Please; strictly for the kiddies. Put a big enough engine on anything and it&apos;ll fly, but MacCready&apos;s design did so much  with so little.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:36:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AElfwine Evenstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543907</link>	
		<description>I found&lt;a href=&quot;http://donaldmonroe.com/gallery/&quot;&gt; this&lt;/a&gt; gallery of all of MacCready&apos;s different aircraft which is part of &lt;a href=&quot;http://donaldmonroe.com/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; webpage which is apparently by the guy who did the photography for all of MaCready&apos;s work.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:17:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>AElfwine Evenstar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543911</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4543752&quot;&gt;ghharr&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;And the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Maryland_Gamera_II_Human_Powered_Helicopter&quot;&gt;University of Maryland Gamera II&lt;/a&gt; human-powered quad-copter&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;v=g3oUkyMae0c&quot;&gt; just hit a record of 8ft&lt;/a&gt; in altitude, and is huge and cool (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/103698/Video-of-the-first-woman-in-a-human-powered-helicopter&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

That was impressive. They have blown past their old record. And seemingly getting close to winning the fabled Sikorsky Prize which requires: a flight duration of 60 seconds and reaching an altitude of 3 meters (9.8 ft) while remaining in a 10 meter (32.8 ft) square. The above video is altitude 8 feet and 25 seconds, though it appears they could have gone longer and higher but were so surprised they were like &quot;come back!&quot; and cut it short.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:19:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fizz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4544179</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHq27yDCH0&quot;&gt;I always think of something like this&lt;/a&gt; whenever I see something like that. .</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 04:46:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dry white toast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/119521/Build-your-own-Gossamer-Condor#4544578</link>	
		<description>True statement: I read this from the Air and Space Museum. Thanks for the tip!! *scampers off to find Condor*</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:09:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dry white toast</dc:creator>
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