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		<title>&quot;This is the best time. The next 2 or 3 thousand years will be fantastic!&quot;</title>
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		<description>In 2005, the Discovery Channel aired &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLfNe12BKE#!&quot;&gt;Alien Worlds&lt;/a&gt;, a fictional documentary based on Wayne Douglas Barlowe&apos;s graphic novel, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://waynebarlowe.wordpress.com/artwork/expedition/&quot;&gt;Expedition&lt;/a&gt;: Being an Account in Words and Artwork of the 2358 A.D. Voyage to Darwin IV&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; Depicting mankind&apos;s first robotic mission to an extrasolar planet that could support life, the show drew from NASA&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://origins.stsci.edu/&quot;&gt;Origins Program&lt;/a&gt;, the NASA/JPL &lt;a href=&quot;http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/&quot;&gt;PlanetQuest Mission&lt;/a&gt;, and ESA&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esa.int/esaSC/120382_index_0_m.html&quot;&gt;Darwin Project&lt;/a&gt;.  It was primarily presented through CGI, but included interviews from a variety of NASA scientists and other experts, including Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, John Craig Venter and Jack Horner. Oh, and George Lucas, too. &lt;a href=&quot;http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/alienplanet/splash.html&quot;&gt;Official site&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/41871/Alien-planet&quot;&gt;Previously on MeFi&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/small&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Related Documentaries: (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_%28TV_program%29&quot;&gt;Background&lt;/a&gt;)

National Geographic: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNeTxPgGJ7I&quot;&gt;Extraterrestrial&lt;/a&gt; (Narrated by Michael Dorn.)

National Geographic: &lt;a href=&quot;http://natgeotv.com/asia/alien-worlds&quot;&gt;Alien Worlds&lt;/a&gt; Parts: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnyyRWCEerE&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvQoljt__6I&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET3zVqgvibw&quot;&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynufKS_6zag&quot;&gt;4&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGxU9CxKcg&quot;&gt;5&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:11:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nomyte</title>
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		<description>Well, &lt;em&gt;Expedition&lt;/em&gt; isn&apos;t so much a graphic novel as it is a themed sci-fi art book. In this regard, it&apos;s a lot more similar to sci-fi picture books like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.co.uk/Galactic-Tours-Thomas-World-Vacations/dp/0862760054/&quot;&gt;Thomas Cook Out of This World Vacations&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2010/08/tour-of-universe.html&quot;&gt;Tour of the Universe&lt;/a&gt;. Basically, you&apos;ll like it if you&apos;re the kind of person who reads the &lt;em&gt;Monster Manual&lt;/em&gt; without ever playing D&amp;amp;D. Looking back, there&apos;s a whole tradition of &quot;scifi non-fiction,&quot; although it&apos;s rarely as earnest and serious as Barlowe&apos;s work. Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007DXN72/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Through the Alimentary Canal with Gun and Camera&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://curiousexpeditions.org/?p=102&quot;&gt;The Snouters&lt;/a&gt; for examples from earlier in the 20th century.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:29:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Podkayne of Pasadena</title>
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		<description>The very first &apos;Alien Worlds&apos; link shows up on the linked to page as &quot;Alien Planet&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Foaf</title>
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		<description>I loved Alien Worlds when it first aired. The Groveback with the forest growing on its shell was pretty cool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:58:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: usagizero</title>
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		<description>Was i the only one hoping that after the cut were the words to the effect of &quot;Curiosity has found similar life on Mars.&quot;? ;)

I have that book by the way, and it&apos;s one of my favorites. He did a cthulhu version too (if i&apos;m not mistaken)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:08:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 5_13_23_42_69_666</title>
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		<description>I used to have that book, leant it and lost it.  I have to get another because it was so damn cool!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:22:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 5_13_23_42_69_666</title>
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		<description>also:  death to people who don&apos;t return books!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:22:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zombieflanders</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://waynebarlowe.wordpress.com/&quot;&gt;Barlowe&apos;s official site&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:54:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zarq</title>
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		<description>Nomyte, thanks for the correction and links. I couldn&apos;t find a viewable copy of &lt;i&gt;Expedition&lt;/i&gt; online and took a guess on how to categorize it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:38:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sneebler</title>
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		<description>Craig Venter looks like a) his blood pressure is through the roof, or b) he&apos;s being controlled by a long tentacle inserted from below by a hidden master.  I guess c) Both is also a possibility.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:17:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrjackalope</title>
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		<description>I&apos;ve never heard that term before, but I love the idea of scifi non-fiction. I imagine my childhood love of Barlowe&apos;s Guide to Extraterrestrials probably has something to do with reading a lot of Audubon field guides.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:22:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gen</title>
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		<description>I enjoyed this a lot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jiawen</title>
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		<description>I&apos;m a big fan of science fiction non-fiction, or (as I also call it) worldbuilding sans plot. I actually got my favorite local SF &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnstf.org/minicon43/guests-of-honor/wayne-barlowe/&quot;&gt;con&lt;/a&gt; to have Wayne Barlowe as a guest, but he unfortunately had to cancel. There are lots of other examples in the general grain of &lt;em&gt;Expedition&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlowe%27s_Guide_to_Extraterrestrials&quot;&gt;Barlowe&apos;s Guide to Extraterrestrials&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;: Barlowe paints a variety of creatures from classic SF, including Mesklinites, Solaris and Old Ones. (This may be what you&apos;re thinking of, usagizero -- the book is not focused on Cthulhu mythos at all. You may also be thinking of &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlowe%27s_Inferno&quot;&gt;Barlowe&apos;s Inferno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, which kind of does for Hell what Expedition does for Darwin IV.) The plates are all really well done, and there are sienna sketches of a unique, alien travelogue that (so far as I know) Barlowe has never finished in the back of the book.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlowe%27s_Guide_to_Fantasy&quot;&gt;Barlowe&apos;s Guide to Fantasy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is similar to &lt;em&gt;Extraterrestrials&lt;/em&gt;, but for fantasy races and creatures.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_After_Man:_An_Anthropology_of_the_Future&quot;&gt;Man After Man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;: Dougal Dixon&apos;s predictions (in text and illustrations) of the future of humanity, through millions of years of evolution. His &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Man:_A_Zoology_of_the_Future&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;After Man&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; does the same thing for life on Earth in general.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themoraeriver.com/&quot;&gt;The Morae River&lt;/a&gt; explores the ecology of one biome on an alien planet. So far as I can tell, it&apos;s still primarily a website, with nothing available in print.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://members.casema.nl/gertvandijk/&quot;&gt;Furaha&lt;/a&gt;: A similar treatment for the planet v Phoenicis IV.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There have been other TV series in the same vein: &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Future_Is_Wild&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Future Is Wild&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which projects the evolution of life on Earth through millions of years (Dougal Dixon wrote the companion book); and the aforementioned &lt;em&gt;Alien Worlds&lt;/em&gt; (also released as &lt;em&gt;Extraterrestrial&lt;/em&gt;, about the two planets &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelia_and_Blue_Moon&quot;&gt;Aurelia and Blue Moon&lt;/a&gt;). (FYI, &lt;em&gt;Alien Worlds&lt;/em&gt; is very different from &lt;em&gt;Alien Planet&lt;/em&gt;; they&apos;re in the same genre, but neither is derived from the other.)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
Further afield, there are lots of other examples of worldbuilding sans plot:
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sorol.wikispaces.com/Sorolpedia?responseToken=7e244becab0caf72b787b3583f31dfb6&quot;&gt;Sorolpedia&lt;/a&gt;, mapping (in really beautiful, National Geographic style) an alien planet.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Lots of really neat projects started as, or still are, worlds for gaming purposes, like M.A.R. Barker&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tekumel.com/&quot;&gt;Tekumel&lt;/a&gt; and Mark Rosenfelder&apos;s amazingly detailed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.almeopedia.com/Main_Page&quot;&gt;Almeopedia&lt;/a&gt;. Other examples: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jhendor.de/index.html&quot;&gt;Jhendor&lt;/a&gt;; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://arsludi.lamemage.com/index.php/78/grand-experiments-west-marches/&quot;&gt;West Marches&lt;/a&gt; (not strictly sans plot, though similar). 
Heck, most &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pandius.com/index.html&quot;&gt;RPG&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A2rn&quot;&gt;setting&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/gurps/books/&quot;&gt;materials&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_campaign_settings&quot;&gt;are&lt;/a&gt; effectively worldbuilding sans plot, and a lot of people enjoy them as such, without ever gaming in them.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Things like the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Incredible_Cross_Sections&quot;&gt;Incredible Cross Sections&lt;/a&gt; series fit into this category, too, I&apos;d say.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terran_Trade_Authority&quot;&gt;Terran Trade Authority&lt;/a&gt; books are also worldbuilding sans plot, as is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.discovery-enterprise.com/2008/02/usborne-book-of-future.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Usborne Book of the Future&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Things like &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Klingon_Dictionary&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Klingon Dictionary&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; probably also count.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;There are literary examples of this, too. I&apos;d consider Borges&apos; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coldbacon.com/writing/borges-tlon.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Tl&#246;n, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius&quot;&lt;/a&gt; to be an example, and &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver%27s_Travels&quot;&gt;Gulliver&apos;s Travels&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; gets close, though it still has plot. &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_Coming_Home&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Always Coming Home&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is primarily fictional anthropology, with a thin shell of plot. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156008726/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dictionary of Imaginary Places&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has articles about dozens of worlds, all written from an in-world perspective, and lots of famous literary conworlds have received the same treatment: &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dune_Encyclopedia&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Dune Encyclopedia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wynn_Fonstad&quot;&gt;Karen Wynn Fonstad&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s series (&lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Middle-earth&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Atlas of Middle-Earth&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Pern&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Atlas of Pern&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, etc.)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

And I must say, I think &lt;em&gt;Alien Planet&lt;/em&gt; is a pretty poor adaptation of &lt;em&gt;Expedition&lt;/em&gt;. Everything they changed to make the TV series was a change for the worse, in my opinion. Adding cute robot explorers instead of a human in a hover capsule, implying that it&apos;s somehow in our near future instead of the medium-far future, adding lots of experts talking about it with continual amazement, deemphasizing that it all comes from a book... I much prefer the book, save for getting to see Barlowe&apos;s creations in 3D.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:58:47 -0800</pubDate>
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