Halbert, a big woman with short gray hair and a forceful, focussed demeanor, is now a coach at her own gym in Nashville, and in the past decade she has organized women’s tournaments around the country. She is also the chair of USA Boxing’s Women’s Task Force, and she said that unsubstantiated safety concerns have frequently been used to justify excluding women from boxing, and later for maintaining different requirements for their participation. Until 2008, USA Boxing mandated that female competitors wear an unwieldy breast protector, even though there was no evidence that it was necessary. “You don’t need to be protected there,” Halbert said. “It’s not a target area, and the way you’re holding your hands it would be odd to be hit directly in the breast. In my own experience as a professional boxer, I was just flopping around in this big plastic shield, and it made my chest a much larger target.” Halbert consulted with boxers and medical experts and lobbied USA Boxing to make its regulations comply with her findings: “I was hearing from boxers who were getting bruised by their breast protector, they were getting cut by them. The bottom line is they were unnecessary. Yet it took several years to convince the people who were voting that they ought to be optional.”posted by Forktine at 3:56 PM on November 10, 2012 [3 favorites]
On June 19, 2004, Mir faced Tim Sylvia for the vacant UFC Heavyweight Championship at UFC 48: Payback. Referee Herb Dean stopped the fight at 50 seconds into the first round when Mir's armbar visibly broke Sylvia's right forearm. Mir trapped Sylvia's right arm in an armbar attempt. When Sylvia tried to pull out of the hold, Mir jerked back harder and Sylvia's radius bone snapped about 3 inches below his elbow. Sylvia repeatedly claimed his arm was not broken, even touching it and moving it around to show he was O.K. Sylvia was taken to the nearby hospital where an x-ray showed that his arm was in fact broken in four different places, two in both the radial and ulna bones in his right forearm. Sylvia underwent surgery later in the week.But it's also a consensual one. I'm pretty conflicted about it, but I watch.
With this technical submission win Mir became the new UFC Heavyweight Champion and later received his Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black-belt from Ricardo Pires for his performance in the fight.
I'm okay with roughness. When necessary, I'm okay with violence. I think you don't need unnecessary roughness and gratuitous violence.Rousey's mother insinuates strongly that she believes that Rousey should have snapped the arm when D'Alelio screamed instead of tapped. D'Alelio had the chance to tap and didn't take it--that means all bets are off. (Also, technically, crying out in pain counts as giving up when you're caught in a submission.)
Yes, I armbarred a lot of people when I was competing. There is even a picture of some major tournament where I am standing on the podium in first place and both the women on the second and third place steps have their arms in a sling.
[Ronda] had dislocated her elbow in a match, won the match, fought a few more rounds in the tournament and then practiced at a training camp for several days.The absolute division of the BJJ championships some years ago had an impressive example of this. Ronaldo 'Jacare' Souza, ahead on points, ripped free of Roger Gracie's last-second armbar after Jacare's arm had been injured. Jacare was able to stall out the last few seconds of the match using one arm and take home gold with his other arm hanging limp. (He has since made a full recovery, including an MMA title.) It's not for everyone, but it's a damn impressive testament to human fighting spirit.
Middleweight Rousimar Palhares, who defeated Tomasz Drwal via heel-hook, was suspended 90 days for failing to release the hold. The dangerous lock, which can quickly cause serious damage to the knee of a competitor, is often banned in lower-level competitions. Palhares latched on to Drwal and cranked hard even as the Polish slugger tapped repeatedly. Palhares had to be pried off of his foe by referee Kevin Mulhall before finally releasing the hold.It's grisly, but he was punished.
bashos_frog: Her attitude can be off-putting for some,Yeah, she's a bit shrill. Bitchy, even. Almost hystrionic. I don't know how she expects to find a husband with an attitude like that.
rough ashlar: The only way it would work TODAY is if a top female is paired against a journeyman male. For instance, Rousey vs Caraway.Ask Bobby Riggs.
And why would a male sign up for this?
If you win, you beat up a girl*
If you loose you were beaten up by a girl.
*Yes, I know girl isn't correct...woman is. But that's what the press and taunting will say. Part of these sports is being manly - as evidenced by the whole 'in their place' comment.
It's not. I disagree slightly with nomad's description of Ronda's armbars. When I compete, I put the armbar on hard, because if I do it lightly, they will think to themselves "this isn't so bad...I'll try to escape". A loose armbar also makes escape more likely. If we just wait there when a championship or a belt promotion is on the line, we'll never get the tap against some people. You must threaten to break it, and if they still refuse to submit, you must break it. Ronda broke those arms because her opponent decided of her free will and accord not to give up unless the arm broke.You have to view systems in terms of how they'll evolve. What we see here is that a) People will refuse to submit and b) People will thus decide to break the arm. As skills rise -- which they do in every competitive sport, though it takes time for them to do so -- both a and b will hit their natural peak. There will be a number of arm breaks, causing a) A lack of fighters able to compete and b) Political pressure.
Despite this, armbars are still legal, nobody is seriously considering banning it, and most matches are not ended with broken arms.So I was hanging out with an MMA fighter, quite a good one actually. He said he had to quit, because he couldn't handle looking at people as something to disassemble.
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