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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:53:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Flash Bang Wallop</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/series/photography-masterclass&quot;&gt;Photography: A Guardian Masterclass&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 08:16:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fearfulsymmetry</dc:creator>		<category>Photography</category>		<category>TheGuardian</category>
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		<title>By: helmutdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690654</link>	
		<description>Bookmarked!  Thanks for this.  As a guy who loves photography, but frequently is not able turn what&apos;s in his head into a great picture - this is fantastic.  And my friends thank you too - they have endured more &quot;hold it - let me take another&quot; than anyone should.</description>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690669</link>	
		<description>Great link, thanks!

&lt;em&gt;Try not to go higher than 1,600, or you will introduce too much &quot;noise&quot; or grain to your images.&lt;/em&gt;

My two cents: noise is the least of your worries on DSLR-type cameras made after 2008 or so. Lightroom and other programs do an awesome job of removing noise, especially if you&apos;re only displaying your photos on a screen. The real downside of high ISOs is the limited dynamic range. It&apos;s very easy to blow highlights or crush blacks if you&apos;re shooting at ISO 6400 or above.

That said, while of course you should keep your ISO reasonably low, it&apos;s better to get the shot you want than to be stuck with a motion-blurred mess. I&apos;d rather have some noise or some blown highlights than deal with motion blur. I used to shoot on a Canon Rebel XSi, and it was just fine at ISO 1600. I later upgraded to a Pentax K-5, and that one&apos;s just fine at ISO 6400, as long as you nail the exposure. Relative to the days of 35mm film being the standard, that&apos;s pretty incredible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:17:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sticherbeast</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sp160n</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690692</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll just add here that their guide to picking cameras doesn&apos;t emphasize &quot;The best camera is the one you have with you&quot;. As a former photographer/photo-assistant who&apos;s owned a number of cameras, I&apos;d say there&apos;s very little reason to go with an SLR right now. If you need one, you probably already know it. My &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx100&quot;&gt;Sony RX100&lt;/a&gt; is the best camera I&apos;ve ever owned simply because it shoots &lt;a href=&quot;http://photos.andrewvc.com/post/35155671644/fog-burning-off-in-tokyo&quot;&gt;great&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://photos.andrewvc.com/post/35101420843&quot;&gt;images&lt;/a&gt;, and fits in a jacket pocket, and lets you bounce the integrated flash. 

If you want to get more serious there are also a ton of mirrorless cameras that give you most of the advantages of an SLR for less cost, and fewer sensor cleaning headaches.

One other note, I really got comfortable shooting when I was in school, taking an SLR everywhere with me, shooting everything possible, every-way posible. I shoot less frequently now, but when I do, I shoot far more deliberately. Practice with the thing until you can think freely about your subject without having to switch gears to remember how your camera works.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:42:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: helmutdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690748</link>	
		<description>Damn you sp160n! It is now today&apos;s task to buy myself the RX100. I want......</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:29:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: desjardins</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690865</link>	
		<description>I just took a beginner photography class and the instructor recommended checking out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://camerasim.com/camera-simulator/&quot;&gt;CameraSim&lt;/a&gt; site. It lets you play around with the settings and simulates the result. &lt;a href=&quot;http://camerasim.com/slr-camera-explained/&quot;&gt;This page&lt;/a&gt; shows you step by step what is happening inside the camera. (Note: there&apos;s no reason to buy the app since it does exactly the same thing as the website and no more, much to my disappointment.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:06:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690870</link>	
		<description>The RX100 seems like the pocket camera I&apos;ve been waiting for. I used to have a GF1, and as nice as it was, even just with the 20mm 1.7, it was still too bulky to carry on my person. It was smaller than a DSLR, but not small enough to fit into anything other than the biggest winter coat pocket. 

As for other photography guides, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reddit.com/r/photoclass&quot;&gt;Reddit Photography Class&lt;/a&gt; is a great place to start.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:12:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sticherbeast</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CheeseDigestsAll</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690890</link>	
		<description>When considering high quality portables, also take a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://store.sony.com/c/Sony-Alpha-NEX-Cameras-Accessories/en/c/S_NEX&quot;&gt;Sony NEX line&lt;/a&gt;.  Advantages include a full DX-sized sensor and interchangeable lenses.  Only with a pancake lens will you get the dimensions down to truly pocket-sized, but given the high resolution, you can crop down quite a bit without losing quality.  Prices range from $500 on up, depending on the model.

I have I Nikon DSLR, but I find myself grabbing the NEX-5N more often than not because of its blend of compactness and image quality. The NEX-7K/B has an electronic viewfinder which makes it even more of a DSLR-killer, but it was too pricey for me as a second camera.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:26:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sp160n</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4691044</link>	
		<description>CheeseDigestsAll: Yep, the NEX line is great, and well priced as well. I do miss getting shallow depth of field images on my RX100, (though I can some reasonable approximations). The current crop of mirrorless cameras really is amazing. 

One thing that took me a while to come to terms with is that I&apos;d much rather look at an LCD screen than a viewfinder. I used to own a Fuji X100, which in many ways is all about it&apos;s gorgeous rangefinder style viewinder.... which I wound up almost never using.It took a while for me to overcome the snobbery there. It&apos;s kind of funny, a live LCD really is more similar to the kind of viewfinder you&apos;d find on a Rolleiflex, just crammed in a smaller form-factor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:01:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IAmBroom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4691305</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4690669&quot;&gt;Sticherbeast&lt;/a&gt;: 
That said, while of course you should keep your ISO reasonably low, it&apos;s better to get the shot you want than to be stuck with a motion-blurred mess.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

SO true. Up until 1/50 s, ISO is a concern. Slower than that (1/30...), screw ISO in favor of shutter speed.

This is only true if your target is still. Trying to stop a party in progress, or a dog moving, or a flower in the wind... well, 1/50 is just a best-case handheld limit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:04:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kozad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4691553</link>	
		<description>What an excellent overview to the art of photography! You have provided me with an excellent entry point - needing only a ten-minute lecture overview - about photography and its influences  - for my high school aesthetics class. The intro might include the century-old debate about whether or not photography is an art form. It sounds silly, but the debate leaked over into my lifetime, in the mid-20th century. The link between photography and art leads back into late 19th century painting, of course. Why paint when you can take pictures...and etc.

Anyway, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 20:36:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CheeseDigestsAll</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4691636</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;One thing that took me a while to come to terms with is that I&apos;d much rather look at an LCD screen than a viewfinder.&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;ve not yet adapted to that.  To me, it feels like holding the camera farther away is distancing me from composition.  Also, LCDs still suck in bright sunlight.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:31:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4691817</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d much rather have an eye-level viewfinder than just the LCD viewfinder. I&apos;m also still grumpily dissatisfied with today&apos;s electronic viewfinders...one day they&apos;ll be comparable to optical viewfinders, but not yet. It&apos;s a shame, because the concept behind using an EVF is thoroughly terrific, and certain cameras such as the OM-D would be perfect otherwise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:17:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sp160n</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4692418</link>	
		<description>I dunno, I prefer EVFs because they show the dynamic range as it will be captured by the sensor. YMMV</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:04:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mitheral</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/121944/Flash-Bang-Wallop#4692549</link>	
		<description>I like the LCD screens because I find they are less immersive and I can keep an eye on what&apos;s happening around me easier.  Shame they suck in bright light so bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:40:44 -0800</pubDate>
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