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November 30, 2012 6:46 PM   Subscribe

Do you know what Nicki Minaj slowed down is? Nicki Minaj slowed down is Jay-Z, that's what (SLYT, lyrics are NSFW).

There's more if you're in to that sort of thing.
posted by codacorolla (68 comments total) 18 users marked this as a favorite

 
And this is the part of the night where I realize I have absolutely no idea what normal speed Nicki Minaj sounds like.
posted by phunniemee at 6:52 PM on November 30, 2012 [14 favorites]


I guess that means they're both copying Nas.
posted by 2bucksplus at 6:54 PM on November 30, 2012 [11 favorites]


Nicki Minaj. Immigrant from the Uncanny Valley.
posted by hot_monster at 6:55 PM on November 30, 2012 [6 favorites]


I played it for my wife and daughter - that first link, anyway, and they refused to believe it was not Jay-Z. Like, adamantly.
posted by kbanas at 6:55 PM on November 30, 2012 [3 favorites]


Holy shit.
posted by shakespeherian at 6:57 PM on November 30, 2012


That shit cray.
posted by Fig at 7:03 PM on November 30, 2012 [13 favorites]


I can't stand Nicki Minaj.

And yet, this, I would pay for.

The weird thing is, regular Nicki Minaj sounds more sped-up than this sounds slowed-down.
posted by Sys Rq at 7:12 PM on November 30, 2012 [2 favorites]


Heh – wow. There are a few moments when I can hear the similarity, then it disappears.

I really like Nicki Minaj, though.
posted by koeselitz at 7:13 PM on November 30, 2012


If Nicki Minaj was actually Jay-Z pitched up on some Quasimoto shit that would be the greatest thing ever.
posted by neuromodulator at 7:13 PM on November 30, 2012 [35 favorites]


I wonder what sped-up Barry White would sound like.
posted by aeschenkarnos at 7:14 PM on November 30, 2012


love when this makes the rounds.
posted by nadawi at 7:14 PM on November 30, 2012


I think the difference is that Nicki Minaj probably has a lot more vocal range and is a lot more experimental in the things she tries to make her voice do; Jay-Z isn't really about that. So there are times when she drops into that sort of Brooklyn swagger that nails his tone perfectly, but then within a bar or two she's switching it up again.
posted by koeselitz at 7:16 PM on November 30, 2012 [5 favorites]


I'm surprised no one has complained that they have no idea who either of those people are.
posted by djduckie at 7:16 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


Anyone who doesn't know who Jay-Z is probably doesn't own an internet.
posted by shakespeherian at 7:20 PM on November 30, 2012 [12 favorites]


My son walked it just as I clicked on the link and said, "Why are you listening to Jay-Z?"

Then he said, "Whoa."
posted by Sweetie Darling at 7:27 PM on November 30, 2012 [13 favorites]


Anyone who doesn't know who Jay-Z is probably doesn't own an internet.

or TV or radio. for like 15 years
posted by shoesietart at 7:31 PM on November 30, 2012 [4 favorites]


Nicki Minaj is an interesting phenomenon. It seems like pop culture usually likes to have at least one female sacrifice to offer up to the gods of latent sexism – a crucible for hate and bile that's apparently excusable because she's 'vacuous' and 'mindless' and 'stupid' and whatever other hideous words we can think of for a pop star. Pop stars are often dismissed, but these particular women are singled out for outright sexist hatred under the guise of enlightened disdain for the bourgeois.

Maybe I just read too much Reddit (some examples: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7) but I see this some on Facebook, too. Kind of weird.
posted by koeselitz at 7:35 PM on November 30, 2012 [18 favorites]


Never heard a tune from either of them. Although I know they are immensely popular, and at least in Jay -Z's case, incredibly wealthy.

And I own a radio and TV, I have to admit though I rent my interwebs.
posted by Max Power at 7:42 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


It's a good life. Just keep repeating to yourself: It's. A. Good. Life.
posted by CarlRossi at 7:46 PM on November 30, 2012




Love Nicki Minaj for this.
posted by sweetkid at 7:56 PM on November 30, 2012 [19 favorites]


Holy wow, this is pretty amazing. Though I'd say it's more like Jay-Z with a twist of Slick Rick.

And frankly, people who dislike Nikki Minaj for being uncreative or vacuous or whatever kind of don't know what they're talking about.
posted by lunasol at 7:57 PM on November 30, 2012 [10 favorites]




Pretty much the only reason I listen to Kanye's Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is for Nicki Minaj's verse on 'Monster.'
posted by shakespeherian at 8:28 PM on November 30, 2012 [18 favorites]


That is uncanny.

But, combined with that picture, I can not unhear "yeah, that's the soup face"
posted by Wrinkled Stumpskin at 8:29 PM on November 30, 2012


I have just spent far too much time trying to fake Nicki Minaj rapping "99 Problems" to a backing track by Pretty Lights.
posted by infinitewindow at 8:34 PM on November 30, 2012 [3 favorites]


You're in luck, shakespherian
posted by chrchr at 8:36 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


Minaj makes fun pop music and when she sings I think she's pretty great, but when she's "rapping" all I can hear is this and she never really deviates from that to much. I don't know, I guess she is her own thing as long as you ignore the idea that she's built herself out of a pastiche of other artists like Slick Rick, Katy Perry, & M.I.A..
posted by P.o.B. at 8:52 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


Without singling anyone out, it's striking to see how many people LOVE pitch-lowed Nicki Minaj, "even though I don't like her most of the time," compared to the number of people who think Muse with the pitch raised until Matthew Bellamy sounds like Gwen Stefani is the worst thing ever.

Maybe it's not sexism per se, because Nicki is a pop star who gets pop star hate, while Bellamy is a cult-figure rock dude with the most obsessively organized fan base on the internet, plus the Nicki comments are mostly on soundcloud while the Bellamy comments are mostly on YTube. Still, when I think about the reflexive love a female rapper gets for sounding more like a male rapper vs. the reflexive hate a male rocker gets for sounding more like a female rocker, it depresses me, a little.
posted by subdee at 9:25 PM on November 30, 2012 [7 favorites]


I don't mean to make anyone feel bad for liking this, though! I personally love it, and think that Jay-Z Minaj is great and hilarious. I like pop music slowed down generally, because at slower speeds you can actually hear all the details of the production and really appreciate the choral majesty of the modern pop song. It's just the difference in the responses that's making me remember what a difficult place the music scene can be for women.
posted by subdee at 9:32 PM on November 30, 2012 [3 favorites]


CarlRossi: It's a good life. Just keep repeating to yourself: It's. A. Good. Life.

It's good that you said that, Anthony. Real good.
posted by dr_dank at 10:04 PM on November 30, 2012 [4 favorites]


In case people were wondering, the picture on that video is neither Nicki Minaj nor Jay-Z, it's Dida Ritz from season 4 of RuPaul's Drag Race.
posted by illenion at 10:38 PM on November 30, 2012 [4 favorites]


I guess she is her own thing as you ignore the idea that she's built herself out of a pastiche of other artists like Slick Rick, Katy Perry, & M.I.A.

235 years previously...
Mozart makes fun concert music and when he writes operas I think he's pretty great, but when he's writing concertos all I can hear is this and he never really deviates from that too much. I don't know, I guess he is his own thing as long as you ignore the idea that he's built himself out of a pastiche of other artists like Haydn, Bach, & his father...

[also Mozart slowed down sounds eerily like Mahler]
posted by Doleful Creature at 10:46 PM on November 30, 2012 [20 favorites]


P.o.B.: “I don't know, I guess she is her own thing as long as you ignore the idea that she's built herself out of a pastiche of other artists like Slick Rick, Katy Perry, & M.I.A..”

That is an insane set of things to combine, isn't it? Has anybody else even attempted to combine those three things? I feel like, even if this is true, she has a lot of individuality there. People have influences.

But, well – I don't really agree that it's a pastiche. She's a bit more insane than that, honestly. I don't even have any idea what her Roman Polanski angle is. She doesn't really stay in one place stylistically long enough for you to get used to what she's doing; I mean, these guys who rap tend to at least fall into a kind of groove across an album, but Roman Reloaded is pretty much schizophrenic, and as a result I haven't actually met anybody who likes the whole thing. This infamous thing is just – well, it's nuts, it hurts my brain, it takes the concept of the in-your-face confrontation pop song and drives it so deep into your skull that you taste it at the back of your throat. And whatever you can say about it, that took guts. People love to hate that song because it's so completely bonkers, but she clearly doesn't give a fuck. So she gets my props for that.

I can't really listen to "Starships." But every album these days is supposed to have a club anthem these days, so I forgive her that. The rest of the record is really intriguing.

shakespeherian: “Pretty much the only reason I listen to Kanye's Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is for Nicki Minaj's verse on 'Monster.'”

Holy crap, yes. That chorus was by far the best thing on that record. Just exceedingly good. I had no idea who she was before that, but when all the rest of the garish Kanye crap faded into the background, that verse still stood out.
posted by koeselitz at 10:57 PM on November 30, 2012 [4 favorites]


i feel like i'm the only non-stan who loves "stupid hoe" - i think it's an absolutely great song.
posted by nadawi at 11:13 PM on November 30, 2012 [6 favorites]


I'm not at all surprised by this, and not for the fact that pretty much everything is over-produced and auto-tuned into a bland sonic porridge these days (I have no idea if that applies to whatever the hell Minaj and Z normally do... I'm of the "this is purile trash" school, but that's neither here nor there, but I am grumpy and old and ... ).

But many decades ago, when the almighty trio of Stock, Aiken and Waterman (speaking of overproduced) were riding high in the charts, turning singers from Sonja to Fun Boy Three (and Sigue Sigue Sputnik... not that they weren't.... slick and over-commercialised from the get-go anyway) into bona fide gold-record selling stars, two of SAW's biggest acts were Kylie M and Mr Rick A.

Music came on tapes back then. Computer programs did too, still.
One day my sister was listening to Mr Astley not giving her up (or something, it was an early single) and I was teaching her how to record stuff off the radio on an old boombox sort of thing we had.

We discovered that if you pressed down one of the buttons the tape would play faster, and by gum, Rick Astley sped up sounded exactly like Kylie, and vice versa when we slowed Kylie down.

Our tiny minds were blown.
posted by Mezentian at 11:16 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


nadawi: “i feel like i'm the only non-stan who loves "stupid hoe" - i think it's an absolutely great song.”

Oh, I love it too – I hope I didn't give the wrong impression there. It's just... still kind of a stunning song to me. Very ridiculous. And awesome.
posted by koeselitz at 11:32 PM on November 30, 2012 [1 favorite]


that muse/gwen stefani thing was AWESOME

i love you metafilter
posted by raihan_ at 11:43 PM on November 30, 2012 [2 favorites]


How do people figure this stuff out? Are they just bored or something?
posted by XhaustedProphet at 12:00 AM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]




235 years previously...

Yeah, artists borrow. Thanks, news to no one.

That is an insane set of things to combine, isn't it?

Not really, why would it be? There are lots of parallels between them and to her stylings now.
posted by P.o.B. at 12:18 AM on December 1, 2012


How do people figure this stuff out? Are they just bored or something?

I'm guessing DJ's / producers. They must always be turning stuff inside out, looking for material.
posted by victory_laser at 12:18 AM on December 1, 2012




Dave Gahan sped up/Shirley Manson slowed down are black-eyed peas in a poppy, gothy pod.
posted by comealongpole at 1:35 AM on December 1, 2012


How do people figure this stuff out? Are they just bored or something?

Pots. Lotsa pot.
posted by mannequito at 2:27 AM on December 1, 2012


I always wondered who the F she was. Now I know she's Jay-Z.
posted by King Bee at 6:30 AM on December 1, 2012 [5 favorites]


I read the comments first and was really amped up to hear some Jay-Z. Yea, not hearing that at all even a little bit. I don't get it.
posted by murfed13 at 6:51 AM on December 1, 2012


Without singling anyone out, it's striking to see how many people LOVE pitch-lowed Nicki Minaj, "even though I don't like her most of the time," compared to the number of people who think Muse with the pitch raised until Matthew Bellamy sounds like Gwen Stefani is the worst thing ever.

I'm making a playlist of Muse ft. Gwen Stefani right now and I'd buy a ticket for that tour.
posted by ersatz at 7:30 AM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


I kind of wish Nicki Minaj would write more songs with glam rock choruses and start a 1970s glam rock-influenced band. "I Am Your Leader" and "Roman Holiday" were my favorite parts of Roman Reloaded, and the vaguely Bowie/Sparks-influenced thing she sometimes has going on is a good look for her.
posted by pxe2000 at 7:38 AM on December 1, 2012 [2 favorites]


“Pretty much the only reason I listen to Kanye's Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is for Nicki Minaj's verse on 'Monster.'”

I actually love Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (yes even the song that includes the line "Yeezy reupholstered my pussy"), but her verse on Monster might be the best part of the album. Interestingly, if you'd like to hear was Jay-Z sounds like when he's slowed down (through the natural process of being old) just listen to his verse on Monster.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 8:15 AM on December 1, 2012 [3 favorites]


her verse on Monster might be the best part of the album. Interestingly, if you'd like to hear was Jay-Z sounds like when he's slowed down (through the natural process of being old) just listen to his verse on Monster.

This mirrors my experience of Minaj as well. Before I learned to recognize her name/sound I "discovered" her on

My Chick Bad - Ludacris
Letting Go - Sean Kingston
Where Dem Girls At - David Guetta

and of course Monster, which was such a great verse.

But ya, what happened to Jay-Z on that track?
posted by ChipT at 8:45 AM on December 1, 2012


Maybe it's not sexism per se, because Nicki is a pop star who gets pop star hate, while Bellamy is a cult-figure rock dude with the most obsessively organized fan base on the internet, plus the Nicki comments are mostly on soundcloud while the Bellamy comments are mostly on YTube. Still, when I think about the reflexive love a female rapper gets for sounding more like a male rapper vs. the reflexive hate a male rocker gets for sounding more like a female rocker, it depresses me, a little.

I was a little worried someone would say something like this.

There may be something to it.

But I'll counter that it's not just the vocals that are re-pitched; the backing track is, too. And, frankly, it's more Nicki Minaj's music I can't stand much more than her voice, which I don't mind. She seems to have two production styles: a) Overprocessed hyperactive Black Eyed Peas club pop (yuck), and b) ticky-snare tinnyness with no bottom end whatsoever. Slowpitching it coverts a) to laid-back groove and fattens up b).

And, frankly, it's just funnier when it's slow. It's like a drunken, camp Biz Markie.

But, you know, fact is, there just needs to be way more female rappers. When it's just that-one-with-the-pink-hair-and-the-tits -- whoever that may be at the time --, any criticism of her tends to be interpreted as a dismissal of all women in the business, when it just plain isn't. (Which is to say: Hurry up with that album, Ms Elliott!)
posted by Sys Rq at 8:46 AM on December 1, 2012 [2 favorites]


HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE EXAGGERATING!!!!! that creeped me out in more ways than one. seriously, Nicky has to be some front for Jay-Z
*places tin foil hat firmly on head*
posted by liza at 9:21 AM on December 1, 2012


Reminds me of this.
posted by xedrik at 9:49 AM on December 1, 2012


Without singling anyone out, it's striking to see how many people LOVE pitch-lowed Nicki Minaj, "even though I don't like her most of the time,

She has 99 problems but her pitch ain't one.
posted by MartinWisse at 10:42 AM on December 1, 2012 [10 favorites]


Really? Nobody went for the obvious joke until now? Internet, I hardly know you anymore.
posted by MartinWisse at 10:42 AM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


Interestingly, if you'd like to hear was Jay-Z sounds like when he's slowed down (through the natural process of being old) just listen to his verse on Monster.

LOOOOOOOVE

I can't get enough of it!
posted by shakespeherian at 11:10 AM on December 1, 2012 [4 favorites]


I think it's safe to say that she's boosted many a Songpop score.
posted by TheSecretDecoderRing at 11:21 AM on December 1, 2012


Some of this might be the New York accent coming through. They grew up not too far from each other. Nicki is from Queens and Jay-Z is from north Brooklyn.
posted by the jam at 1:32 PM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


Still, when I think about the reflexive love a female rapper gets for sounding more like a male rapper vs. the reflexive hate a male rocker gets for sounding more like a female rocker, it depresses me, a little.

I'm not sure that it's really any more sexist than someone who prefers cello to violin.
posted by straight at 3:48 PM on December 1, 2012


Still, when I think about the reflexive love a female rapper gets for sounding more like a male rapper vs. the reflexive hate a male rocker gets for sounding more like a female rocker, it depresses me, a little.

Judas Priest's Mr Rob H and his many of his friends in the NWOBHM, would like to have a chat about this perception.
posted by Mezentian at 4:46 PM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


Why, are Judas Priest and the NWOBHM-ers known for their falsettos? XD

Anyway I'm not saying sexism, per se, is the only reason people might prefer a male voices over female voices, or even that that's what's happening in this case. But I will say that MANY people, men and women, seem to "just not like" the way female artists sound. And I mean ALL female artists, not just a certain style of singing. But I can't remember anyone saying the same thing about all male artists, unless it was explicitly a political thing. Annecdata, sampling bias, etc. When we're talking about men who sing in a higher register, such that their (sometimes largely female) audience can sing along, it's kind of doubly ironic.
posted by subdee at 9:06 PM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


Needs more Beatles.
posted by erniepan at 9:08 PM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]



I'm not sure that it's really any more sexist than someone who prefers cello to violin.


Uh what?
posted by sweetkid at 9:29 PM on December 1, 2012 [1 favorite]


Nicki is from Queens and Jay-Z is from north Brooklyn.

so is it safe to say that they're doin' it, and doin' it, and doin' it well?
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 9:44 AM on December 2, 2012 [3 favorites]


Shakesperian, I have never (to my knowledge) heard a Jay-Z song. I'm not saying that in a "look at how indie I am" way, just that where I live, different stuff is on the charts / played in convenience stores / used in TV commercials. I totally admit that I'm an outlier, though. I'm not saying "not all of us are USians, you know!!"

I wish I had heard Jay-Z before, though. Having just discovered Muse a month ago (like I said, different music here), the Muse / Gwen Stefani bit was great, and I'd love to enjoy the Minaj / Jay-Z thing in the same way.
posted by Bugbread at 5:46 PM on December 2, 2012


sweetkid, I was just saying that maybe it has more to do with preferring voices in the lower register than preferring male singers, per se. But subdee has a good point about how that doesn't explain Brad Delp, Geddy Lee, Jon Bon Jovi, the Bee Gees, etc.
posted by straight at 12:25 PM on December 4, 2012


I know that I prefer all-male a capella choirs to all-female ones, and I feel sure that it's just because I prefer how the music sounds in the lower register. I prefer cello to violin for the same reason.
posted by straight at 12:28 PM on December 4, 2012


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