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	<title>Comments on: That kitten is the very definition of &quot;not having it.&quot;</title>
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		<title>That kitten is the very definition of &quot;not having it.&quot;</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/dec/13/monkey-adopts-kitten-in-pictures#/?picture=400998897&amp;index=0"&gt;Monkey adopts kitten (SLGuardian)&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:12:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kitteh</dc:creator>		<category>monkeysadoptingkittens</category>		<category>monkeys</category>		<category>kittensnothavingit</category>		<category>cats</category>		<category>wowthatcarrylooksreallyuncomfortable</category>
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		<title>By: ChuraChura</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732224</link>	
		<description>Love of cats must be an ancestral trait for primates. Here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDAhXb_UDKo&quot;&gt;Koko and her kitten&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:21:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732231</link>	
		<description>&quot;What do you mean you don&apos;t like bananas? Well, you&apos;re just going to &lt;em&gt;sit there until you eat them&lt;/em&gt;!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:28:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732233</link>	
		<description>If you want something, set it free.&#160; If it comes back to you, it&apos;s yours forever.&#160; If it doesn&apos;t, it was never yours to begin with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:30:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brandon Blatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732242</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you want something, set it free.  If it comes back to you, it&apos;s yours forever.  If it doesn&apos;t, it was never yours to begin with.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh Voyager 1, I thought we really  had a future together.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:34:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gilrain</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732245</link>	
		<description>Photo 7/7 ruined it, for me. That belt and chain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:36:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stormpooper</title>
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		<description>And I will hug him, and love him, and name him George.
And that cat&apos;s expression is total Edward G. Robertson.

Yea, he&apos;s my pal, see, and he likes to pick for fleas, see.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:36:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732251</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/animal-odd-couples/preview/7958/&quot;&gt;Episode&lt;/a&gt; on PBS&apos;s Nature series regarding cross-species interaction and the emotional lives of animals.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:40:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: facetious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732272</link>	
		<description>Monkeys Who Love Cats Who Hate Monkeys</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:50:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Egg Shen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732274</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Photo 7/7 ruined it, for me. That belt and chain.&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah. Fuck.

Makes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/dec/13/monkey-adopts-kitten-in-pictures#/?picture=400998899&amp;index=4&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; all the more heartbreaking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:52:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kitteh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732290</link>	
		<description>I know, right? All I can hope is that monkey gets free and that kitten can go somewhere else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:04:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elizardbits</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732294</link>	
		<description>That kitten does not look particularly thrilled with its current lot in life. On the other hand, I guess if it really wanted to escape, those sharp little teeths n claws would do the job. Maybe like all surly toddlers it just doesn&apos;t like baths.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:07:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MCMikeNamara</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732299</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; Monkeys Who Love Cats Who Hate Monkeys&lt;/em&gt;

To be fair, I&apos;m not sure that this isn&apos;t exactly how one of our cats would describe our relationship.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:09:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: achrise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732329</link>	
		<description>Photo 8/7 Caption:  Kimon with chain leash stretched as far as it will go with Kitten sitting just out of reach, looking back with the emotions of a hostage pitying one&apos;s clearly-disadvantaged ex-captor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:31:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GenjiandProust</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732349</link>	
		<description>My book, &lt;em&gt;Kittens Who Are Dubious about Monkeys Who Love Kittens Too Much&lt;/em&gt;, will be coming to the self-help section of zoo bookstores everywhere. Sadly, since the monkeys in zoos have no money with which to buy books, the cycle of kitten-monkey inappropriate grooming will continue (yes, elsewhere there are pictures of adult cats licking baby monkeys, I am sure of it).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:46:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kadin2048</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732388</link>	
		<description>Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly?  Like with a dead cat badly?  If the monkey has a temper tantrum or if the kitten nips it and it gets upset, it seems like it could be a bad situation.  Hope they are being supervised closely.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:03:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orme</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732416</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Where&lt;/em&gt; did this monkey get the idea that it&apos;s ok to hold another being against their will?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732433</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly? Like with a dead cat badly?&lt;/i&gt;

I do remember reading years ago about the story of a lioness who adopted a baby gazelle. The inevitable adoption disruption happened maybe two weeks later, when one of the other lions in the pride ate the gazelle. &lt;small&gt;The lioness was very upset by this turn of events, but come on, what did she expect...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:21:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeather</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732529</link>	
		<description>&quot;Reluctant-looking&quot; is perhaps an understatement in photo 1.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:12:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jnnla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732530</link>	
		<description>Human imprisons monkey, monkey adopts kitten.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:12:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MCMikeNamara</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732661</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly? Like with a dead cat badly?
&lt;/em&gt;

Embarrassingly enough, I only recognize this as the &quot;joke&quot; behind a &quot;humourous&quot; cutaway &quot;gag&quot; on &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.*

&lt;em&gt;My book,&lt;/em&gt;Kittens Who Are Dubious about Monkeys Who Love Kittens Too Much&lt;/em&gt; will be coming to the self-help section of zoo bookstores everywhere. Sadly, since the monkeys in zoos have no money with which to buy books, the cycle of kitten-monkey inappropriate grooming will continue (yes, elsewhere there are pictures of adult cats licking baby monkeys, I am sure of it).
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

And again, though monkeys might not be able to purchase it, I would totally buy this for my cat.  As a gag gift.  And then she would love/hate me even more.


* Trust me on this -- I looked it up to be sure my memory wasn&apos;t playing tricks on me and decided not to link because of the graphic image.  Also, a list of &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; cutaways, even if found my Google search and barely glanced at, is really bad for your soul.  Believe it or not, cutaways don&apos;t get funnier in groups of 100.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:03:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IAmBroom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732739</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732388&quot;&gt;Kadin2048&lt;/a&gt;: Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly?  Like with a dead cat badly?  If the monkey has a temper tantrum or if the kitten nips it and it gets upset, it seems like it could be a bad situation.  Hope they are being supervised closely.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe you&apos;re misremembering a story about a human and its child.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:40:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IAmBroom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732743</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732416&quot;&gt;orme&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;Where&lt;/em&gt; did this monkey get the idea that it&apos;s ok to hold another being against their will?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Parenting skills.

Seriously.

And all the people claiming the kitten is upset: have you &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; seen the way a mama kitty carries her kittens? It&apos;s a lot less gentle than this. I&apos;d say the kitten feels perfectly loved.

In fact, judging from the kitten&apos;s body language (limp and accepting while carried, attentive and still while being groomed), she is expressing contentment. 

Anthropomorphism is dumb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:43:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mreleganza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732815</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;That kitten does not look particularly thrilled with its current lot in life. On the other hand, I guess if it really wanted to escape, those sharp little teeths n claws would do the job. Maybe like all surly toddlers it just doesn&apos;t like baths.&lt;/em&gt;

(...and people who have made similar comments...) Have you not had a cat before? I&apos;ve had many, and I&apos;ve always loved picking them up, kissing them, hugging them, etc., all against their will.

And they have never scratched or clawed, but they&apos;ve almost always had that same face of, &quot;Oh, GOD, here we go with THIS SHIT AGAIN!&quot; and they put up for it for awhile and then say, &quot;THAT&apos;S IT!  Now I deploy my superpower of turning all my bones into jelly!&quot; and wriggle out of my grasp, all without using claws or teeth.  

It&apos;s really quite sweet.  It&apos;s like they understand we won&apos;t hurt them, this is just something the food-bringers have to do sometimes.  I think a similar dynamic is in play here.

(sometimes, you get lucky and get a kitty that doesn&apos;t mind being picked up at all, and other times, you get unlucky and get a kitty that won&apos;t cotton being picked up one bit).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:35:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732856</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXo-BpE8T8&quot;&gt;Gibbon taunts tiger cubs&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:11:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
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		<description>The problem with having a kitty that likes being held is that it likes being held ALL THE TIME and even if you teach it how to signal it wants to be Up (cause all cats want to be more Up all the time) that doesn&apos;t change the fact that it&apos;s a 20 lb maine coon monster that wants to live on your shoulders and be carted around Pauline Bontaparte</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:59:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: charred husk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732995</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/122888/That-kitten-is-the-very-definition-of-not-having-it#4732388&quot;&gt;Kadin2048&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br&gt;&quot;Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Somewhere recently I saw where a tigress had found a baby monkey still clutching the corpse of the mother it had just killed. The tigress tried to take care of the baby monkey, and it looked sweet and all, but a note in the end said it had no idea on how to properly feed or raise a monkey and the baby died of starvation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:02:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: QuakerMel</title>
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		<description>Kadin2048:
&quot;Didn&apos;t another one of these pairings end ... badly?&quot;

Koko&apos;s kitten &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Ball&quot;&gt;All Ball&lt;/a&gt; was killed when hit by a car. There are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hal3FxFTII&quot;&gt;videos&lt;/a&gt; of Koko hearing the news and reacting with grief.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:11:33 -0800</pubDate>
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