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January 1, 2013 8:28 PM Subscribe
A boat blazes on a remote summer-scorched lake shoreline. Onlookers are helpless to save the boat or prevent the imminent explosion of full gas tanks starting a grass fire. Or not. (SLYT - *Warning Bad Kiwi Language*)
I think you meant "kiwis."
posted by zippy at 8:48 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by zippy at 8:48 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
Enough to make me overlook the likely no wake zone.
Cool.
I'm curious how he was able to fit those testicles in such a tiny boat.
Do we know it was a "he"? (We don't actually).
This at least seems legit; New Zealand Herald story here.
posted by Miko at 8:51 PM on January 1, 2013
Cool.
I'm curious how he was able to fit those testicles in such a tiny boat.
Do we know it was a "he"? (We don't actually).
This at least seems legit; New Zealand Herald story here.
posted by Miko at 8:51 PM on January 1, 2013
As an Aussie, can just this is highly unusual, seeing New Zealanders actually in New Zealand. They must be home for Christmas
posted by mattoxic at 9:10 PM on January 1, 2013 [24 favorites]
posted by mattoxic at 9:10 PM on January 1, 2013 [24 favorites]
I tend to think this was inspired by alcohol. Sometimes it turns you into Batman.
posted by Brocktoon at 9:21 PM on January 1, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by Brocktoon at 9:21 PM on January 1, 2013 [5 favorites]
Neat.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:32 PM on January 1, 2013
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:32 PM on January 1, 2013
When I saw a SLYT for a boat fire, I was thinking "meh". Then I watched it. Holy shit. Well done, anonymous Kiwi, well done.
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 9:33 PM on January 1, 2013
posted by Purposeful Grimace at 9:33 PM on January 1, 2013
Mui macho!!
posted by brando_calrissian at 9:34 PM on January 1, 2013
posted by brando_calrissian at 9:34 PM on January 1, 2013
Gas tanks don't explode, imminently or otherwise. All this person did was put out a fire that would have kept burning a while longer.
posted by Camofrog at 9:50 PM on January 1, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Camofrog at 9:50 PM on January 1, 2013 [1 favorite]
All this person did was put out a fire that would have kept burning a while longer.
Not quite: he looked *awesome* doing it, and hopefully enjoyed it a great deal and had a rosy glow of triumph for days and years to come.
posted by freebird at 9:55 PM on January 1, 2013 [18 favorites]
Not quite: he looked *awesome* doing it, and hopefully enjoyed it a great deal and had a rosy glow of triumph for days and years to come.
posted by freebird at 9:55 PM on January 1, 2013 [18 favorites]
"All this person did was put out a fire that would have kept burning a while longer."
Boo!
posted by bardic at 10:02 PM on January 1, 2013 [1 favorite]
Boo!
posted by bardic at 10:02 PM on January 1, 2013 [1 favorite]
Okay whatever, boats explode like mad and many hobbits were saved.
posted by Camofrog at 10:07 PM on January 1, 2013 [11 favorites]
posted by Camofrog at 10:07 PM on January 1, 2013 [11 favorites]
It is interesting, is it not, that one who does a difficultg thing successfully and with flair is said to have big balls, a la OP, but one who fails at doing a difficult thing, a la fullerine's link, is only said to be OMG WTF stupid
Yowzers that is a stunning collapse of all that is holy.
posted by SLC Mom at 10:08 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
Yowzers that is a stunning collapse of all that is holy.
posted by SLC Mom at 10:08 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
My intention was to highlight the Hi-Vis clad workers who feinted to avoid the falling helicopter and then immediately steamed in to check on the pilot.
posted by fullerine at 10:14 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by fullerine at 10:14 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
Gas tanks don't explode.
How ... reassuring!
posted by Catch at 10:14 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
How ... reassuring!
posted by Catch at 10:14 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
This being the internet and all, I was genuinely surprised when the video ended without two boats being on fire.
posted by feloniousmonk at 10:23 PM on January 1, 2013 [8 favorites]
posted by feloniousmonk at 10:23 PM on January 1, 2013 [8 favorites]
Gas tanks don't explode, imminently or otherwise.
Gas fumes will certainly put on a show though.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:45 PM on January 1, 2013
Gas fumes will certainly put on a show though.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:45 PM on January 1, 2013
Gas tanks don't explode, imminently or otherwise.
Depends on how well the gas is contained. In a simple, non-baffled tank, gas can boil, rapidly evaporate and explode. Here's a training example of gasoline exploding in a couple of small closed storage cans. Modern vehicle tanks have protections and baffles to prevent this from happening, however, I've seen a few old boat designs that were most definitely not safe. If the gasoline can pool as a liquid with open space above it, like from a punctured tank, boiling liquid evaporative explosions (BLEVEs) can be extremely dangerous.
posted by bonehead at 11:04 PM on January 1, 2013 [10 favorites]
Depends on how well the gas is contained. In a simple, non-baffled tank, gas can boil, rapidly evaporate and explode. Here's a training example of gasoline exploding in a couple of small closed storage cans. Modern vehicle tanks have protections and baffles to prevent this from happening, however, I've seen a few old boat designs that were most definitely not safe. If the gasoline can pool as a liquid with open space above it, like from a punctured tank, boiling liquid evaporative explosions (BLEVEs) can be extremely dangerous.
posted by bonehead at 11:04 PM on January 1, 2013 [10 favorites]
All this person did was put out a fire that would have kept burning a while longer.
I'm no sailor, but I think that boat fires are considered sub-optimal.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 11:07 PM on January 1, 2013 [12 favorites]
I'm no sailor, but I think that boat fires are considered sub-optimal.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 11:07 PM on January 1, 2013 [12 favorites]
As an Aussie, can just this is highly unusual, seeing New Zealanders actually in New Zealand.
Because you normally meet them working the same bar shifts in some tourist trap in London?
posted by MartinWisse at 11:15 PM on January 1, 2013 [14 favorites]
Because you normally meet them working the same bar shifts in some tourist trap in London?
posted by MartinWisse at 11:15 PM on January 1, 2013 [14 favorites]
Can anyone tell me why the smoke is black until the first splash, and then turns white? What's burning?
posted by malibustacey9999 at 11:16 PM on January 1, 2013
posted by malibustacey9999 at 11:16 PM on January 1, 2013
Gasoline, boat seats, carpeting, motor oil....could be all sorts of things. After the first splash the white is mostly steam - water puts out fires by cutting off oxygen by displacement and taking away heat by evaporation.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 11:20 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 11:20 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
A lot of that white "smoke" is probably steam.
posted by akgerber at 11:30 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by akgerber at 11:30 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
The world needs more Kiwis. They wear flannel checked shirt and shorts in all weather, they're like some kind of perfect, idealized, proto-Canadian for god sakes
posted by KokuRyu at 11:31 PM on January 1, 2013 [13 favorites]
posted by KokuRyu at 11:31 PM on January 1, 2013 [13 favorites]
She'll be right mate.
posted by vac2003 at 11:45 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by vac2003 at 11:45 PM on January 1, 2013 [2 favorites]
All this person did was put out a fire that would have kept burning a while longer.
I'm no sailor, but I think that boat fires are considered sub-optimal.
I'm no sailor either, but I think that boat was screwed anyhow the way it was already burning, and point is that good on the other boat for putting out the fire, but it was not a heroic risk to life and limb. Boats do not blow up in a way that would endanger other boats.
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead. Cool video. Thin on actual heroic content.
posted by Camofrog at 11:48 PM on January 1, 2013
I'm no sailor, but I think that boat fires are considered sub-optimal.
I'm no sailor either, but I think that boat was screwed anyhow the way it was already burning, and point is that good on the other boat for putting out the fire, but it was not a heroic risk to life and limb. Boats do not blow up in a way that would endanger other boats.
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead. Cool video. Thin on actual heroic content.
posted by Camofrog at 11:48 PM on January 1, 2013
I bought a 26' aluminum boat that I'm planning to fix. Yesterday, I was moving a ladder around in my yard and it touched the boat. Immediately after, one of the 70 gallon aluminum tanks exploded.
* * *
The problems apparently started when the gas pump kept shutting off as an attendant filled the second of two gas tanks on the 32-foot Wellcraft, Guy Santone told the Erie Times-News.
They resulted in an explosion that killed Erin Carlisle, of Erie, and injured the gas attendant and four people on the boat, including owner Aaron Hertel and Hertel's 2-year-old son.
* * *
The risk of accidental explosion in gasoline powered small craft is well known. Onboard propane heating and cooking systems can present the same hazard. Gasoline powered vessels must be fitted with an adequate ventilation system that efficiently removes explosive vapors from engine bilge spaces and fuel track compartments to prevent serious problems.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 12:22 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
* * *
The problems apparently started when the gas pump kept shutting off as an attendant filled the second of two gas tanks on the 32-foot Wellcraft, Guy Santone told the Erie Times-News.
They resulted in an explosion that killed Erin Carlisle, of Erie, and injured the gas attendant and four people on the boat, including owner Aaron Hertel and Hertel's 2-year-old son.
* * *
The risk of accidental explosion in gasoline powered small craft is well known. Onboard propane heating and cooking systems can present the same hazard. Gasoline powered vessels must be fitted with an adequate ventilation system that efficiently removes explosive vapors from engine bilge spaces and fuel track compartments to prevent serious problems.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 12:22 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Would it have been heroic or insanely maddening if he/she had done the same thing on a jet ski?
posted by KokuRyu at 12:31 AM on January 2, 2013
posted by KokuRyu at 12:31 AM on January 2, 2013
That sort of stunt is a sport down here.
posted by arzakh at 12:44 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by arzakh at 12:44 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Boats do not blow up in a way that would endanger other boats.
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead.
I am so confused. There was no risk from the burning boat but at the same time too much risk to go near it, and preventing a scrub fire is not heroic?
posted by Catch at 12:49 AM on January 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead.
I am so confused. There was no risk from the burning boat but at the same time too much risk to go near it, and preventing a scrub fire is not heroic?
posted by Catch at 12:49 AM on January 2, 2013 [4 favorites]
I'm no sailor either, but I think that boat was screwed anyhow the way it was already burning, and point is that good on the other boat for putting out the fire, but it was not a heroic risk to life and limb. Boats do not blow up in a way that would endanger other boats.
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead. Cool video. Thin on actual heroic content.
Grass fires endanger everyone, though.
And if boats don't blow up, then how is the second boat going to catch fire cruising by and splashing from a distance?
I love watching the black smoke turn into white steam; it feels kind of symbolic. And if we're looking for a reason to admire the rescuer, how about that: they reduced the amount of toxic smoke blasted into the atmosphere.
I refuse to be a sourpuss about this. That was quick thinking and bold action that made the situation better. Good for them. :-)
posted by Kit W at 12:49 AM on January 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead. Cool video. Thin on actual heroic content.
Grass fires endanger everyone, though.
And if boats don't blow up, then how is the second boat going to catch fire cruising by and splashing from a distance?
I love watching the black smoke turn into white steam; it feels kind of symbolic. And if we're looking for a reason to admire the rescuer, how about that: they reduced the amount of toxic smoke blasted into the atmosphere.
I refuse to be a sourpuss about this. That was quick thinking and bold action that made the situation better. Good for them. :-)
posted by Kit W at 12:49 AM on January 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
I tend to think this was inspired by alcohol. Sometimes it turns you into Batman.
posted by MuffinMan at 1:15 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by MuffinMan at 1:15 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Would it have been heroic or insanely maddening if he/she had done the same thing on a jet ski?
I think just a plain old water ski could have done the job (but still have been cool).
posted by TedW at 5:29 AM on January 2, 2013
I think just a plain old water ski could have done the job (but still have been cool).
posted by TedW at 5:29 AM on January 2, 2013
they're like some kind of perfect, idealized, proto-Canadian for god sakes
Yeah, I have long wondered if the Australia/New Zealand relationship was as similar to the US/Canada relationship as I suspect it might be. (socially, not politically)
posted by elizardbits at 6:30 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Yeah, I have long wondered if the Australia/New Zealand relationship was as similar to the US/Canada relationship as I suspect it might be. (socially, not politically)
posted by elizardbits at 6:30 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
There was no risk from the burning boat but at the same time too much risk to go near it, and preventing a scrub fire is not heroic?
That hillside looks like it had a scrub fire sometime in the not too distant past.
Would it have been heroic or insanely maddening if he/she had done the same thing on a jet ski?
Given that it's a jet pump, a jet ski might have been even better at it.
However, there is a point in almost all water craft where too much water is a bad thing.
posted by eriko at 6:31 AM on January 2, 2013
That hillside looks like it had a scrub fire sometime in the not too distant past.
Would it have been heroic or insanely maddening if he/she had done the same thing on a jet ski?
Given that it's a jet pump, a jet ski might have been even better at it.
However, there is a point in almost all water craft where too much water is a bad thing.
posted by eriko at 6:31 AM on January 2, 2013
Would it have made everyone happy if they'd fuelled the boat with acetylene?
posted by Devils Rancher at 6:43 AM on January 2, 2013
posted by Devils Rancher at 6:43 AM on January 2, 2013
Compare that rescue technique with this one.
posted by nathancaswell at 7:05 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by nathancaswell at 7:05 AM on January 2, 2013 [1 favorite]
Nobody is curious about the water skier they were towing?
posted by hal9k at 7:36 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by hal9k at 7:36 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Would it have made everyone happy if they'd fuelled the boat with acetylene ?
The full version of that clip (I can't seem to find it) is incredible. It lasts for 45 minutes or so, and tracks the start of the fire from the loading docks at the front of the warehouse, through the warehouse and then to the yard, where the clip above starts.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:58 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
The full version of that clip (I can't seem to find it) is incredible. It lasts for 45 minutes or so, and tracks the start of the fire from the loading docks at the front of the warehouse, through the warehouse and then to the yard, where the clip above starts.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:58 AM on January 2, 2013 [2 favorites]
Camofrog: So the fire is out, but this could have resulted in two boats on fire and people dead. Cool video. Thin on actual heroic content.He risked his safety (and life, in his perception) to remedy a possibly life-threatening situation (again, in his perception).
Heroism: nontrivially present.
What-if outcomes: ultimately indeterminate.
posted by IAmBroom at 9:58 AM on January 2, 2013 [3 favorites]
They wear flannel checked shirt and shorts in all weather
I am so going to update my profile pic today, just for you, KokuRyu.
posted by Catch at 12:00 PM on January 2, 2013
I am so going to update my profile pic today, just for you, KokuRyu.
posted by Catch at 12:00 PM on January 2, 2013
A boat blazes on a remote summer-scorched lake shoreline
beached as, bro
posted by obiwanwasabi at 3:34 PM on January 2, 2013
beached as, bro
posted by obiwanwasabi at 3:34 PM on January 2, 2013
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