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	<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:59:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>A Russian Gains Prominence Among Fine Watchmakers</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/fashion/21iht-acaw-chaykin21.html?ref=fashion&amp;pagewanted=all"&gt;Soviet-era Russia was not a particularly friendly environment for aspiring fine watchmakers.&lt;/a&gt; For Konstantin Chaykin, who was born in St. Petersburg in 1975, there was no school where he could learn the craft that he dreamed of pursuing. So he taught himself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:49:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>winecork</dc:creator>		<category>russia</category>		<category>entrepreneur</category>		<category>watches</category>
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		<title>By: jquinby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798362</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s a fantastic close-up of the transparent watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keepthetime.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/konstantin-chaykin-mystery-watch.jpg&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. That is pretty cool stuff.</description>
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		<title>By: fightorflight</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798363</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Typical ways to describe time in Russian include phrases such as &apos;I woke up at 7 in the morning&apos; or &apos;I will stop by at 2 in the afternoon&apos; or &apos;Someone was making a lot of noise at 11 at night&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

These are also typical ways to describe time in British English. Not in American?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:00:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jquinby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798368</link>	
		<description>Those are fairly common here, too. Maybe languagehat will drop in and explain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: enn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798375</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Soviet-era Russia was not a particularly friendly environment for aspiring fine watchmakers.&lt;/i&gt;

Kind of a weird angle for the NYT to take. Compared to what? In Soviet Russia there were many types of mechanical watch movements in widespread production and use, some of them very interesting, although it&apos;s true that they were mass-produced and not &quot;fine watchmaking.&quot; Vostok, Poljot, Slava, Raketa, Zarya&amp;mdash;and if you include the greater USSR you&apos;ve got Prim, Orex, probably more I don&apos;t know about. Most of these brands are still producing new watches using movements designed in the Soviet era. And his claim that &quot;No one near us produces any watch parts or watch-making tools&quot; isn&apos;t true if you take &quot;near us&quot; to mean &quot;in Russia.&quot; In comparison, AFAIK there are zero mechanical movements currently being made in the US. Somehow I doubt that if they were writing about a US fine watchmaker, though, the lede would be, &quot;Capitalist-era America is not a particularly friendly environment for aspiring fine watchmakers.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:08:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Keith Talent</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798409</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.ca/search?q=Konstantin+Chaykin&amp;hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=0Pz&amp;tbo=u&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;channel=fflb&amp;tbm=isch&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=fwgHUa6YFITtiwKRmYDQAw&amp;ved=0CDkQsAQ&amp;biw=1267&amp;bih=841#imgrc=_&quot;&gt;GIS of his stuff here&lt;/a&gt;. Yikes, not my taste, but whatever floats your boat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:25:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Keith Talent</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bfranklin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798440</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;AFAIK there are zero mechanical movements currently being made in the US&lt;/i&gt;

I think Kobold&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://store.koboldwatch.com/collections/watches/products/spirit-of-america-manual&quot;&gt;Spirit of America&lt;/a&gt; is the closest to a 100% american watch you can get.  The dial is German, and the movement is Swiss.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:44:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burhanistan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798447</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i81yrwiQeds&quot;&gt;&quot;That was a Russian copy of a 1969 Timex Digital!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:55:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sldownard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798448</link>	
		<description>Has anyone got &#8364;30k they can loan me? I need to go by this shop in Moscow real quick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:56:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joakim Ziegler</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798577</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798362&quot;&gt;jquinby&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;There&apos;s a fantastic close-up of the transparent watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keepthetime.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/konstantin-chaykin-mystery-watch.jpg&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. That is pretty cool stuff&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Ah, finally a watch that will let me see how sweaty my wrists gets when wearing a watch, without taking it off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:26:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LogicalDash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798595</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The usual 12 numerals are replaced by letters from the Jewish alphabet, from which a numerical value can be extrapolated according to Kabbalistic teaching.&lt;/em&gt;

Hebrew letters are Hebrew numbers. That&apos;s the way you write numbers in Hebrew. There is nothing especially Kabbalist about it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:37:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: young sister beacon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798615</link>	
		<description>This is really interesting, thanks. And for people who are like me and have no idea what a torbillion or a complication is, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/sites/arieladams/2012/09/14/the-eroding-exclusivity-of-the-tourbillon-watch/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; interesting article may help. Also, his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.konstantin-chaykin.com/chaykin/collections/watches/quartime#description&quot;&gt;Quartime&lt;/a&gt; (morning, day, evening, night) watch is pretty neat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:53:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: symbioid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798639</link>	
		<description>Quartime?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timecube.com/&quot;&gt;Yeah, I think I&apos;ve seen that before.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:18:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: young sister beacon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798647</link>	
		<description>what fresh hell is that</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:22:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>young sister beacon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: eurypteris</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798696</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ah, finally a watch that will let me see how sweaty my wrists gets when wearing a watch, without taking it off&lt;/em&gt;.

Wealth doesn&apos;t sweat, it &lt;em&gt;glows&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:08:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: symbioid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798748</link>	
		<description>In all seriousness, I started looking at watches now and realized that 

1) Fucking bourgeoisie and their expensive watches
2) Goddamned, I really like them
3) OK, so let&apos;s see if there&apos;s something cool within my price range.  
4) OK, there&apos;s some funky digital watches at Tokyoflash.  Not nearly as sophisticated, but hey, I can afford it.
5) Besides, we all know those watchmaker types end up going all Sylar and start ripping people&apos;s brains out, so we don&apos;t want to give them all that money anyways, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:43:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4798994</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;what fresh hell is that&lt;/em&gt;

For the uninitiated: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/tags/timecube&quot;&gt;posts tagged with timecube&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:00:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fredericsunday</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4799431</link>	
		<description>----AFAIK there are zero mechanical movements currently being made in the US

I think Kobold&apos;s Spirit of America is the closest to a 100% american watch you can get. The dial is German, and the movement is Swiss.---

Very incorrect. 

Check out RGM watches in PA. 

rgmwatches.com</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:59:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bfranklin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4799578</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Check out RGM watches in PA. &lt;/i&gt;

Wow, those are some nice watches.  I really like the 222.  Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:08:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FatherDagon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4799605</link>	
		<description>&quot;Mr. Chaykin had already shared his national pride in 2010, when he presented his&lt;a href=&quot;http://atickoftime.blogspot.com/2012/02/its-new-moon-for-konstantin-chaykin_20.html&quot;&gt; Lunokhod model&lt;/a&gt;, a timekeeping homage to the Russian moon rover program of the early 1970s. At the watch&apos;s dial center, a black rhodium-plated silver mask covered a 12-millimeter, or almost half an inch, Wootz-steel orb, &lt;strong&gt;accurately portraying the earth&apos;s shadow cast on the surface of the moon&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;

No.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caphector</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/124335/A-Russian-Gains-Prominence-Among-Fine-Watchmakers#4804178</link>	
		<description>FatherDragon, I&apos;m glad I wasn&apos;t the only one to notice that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:38:58 -0800</pubDate>
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