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		<title>The momentary madness of Mao&apos;s mangoes</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For 2,000 years, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peach#China&quot;&gt;the peach&lt;/a&gt; was the iconic fruit of China, &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=KEUAbrBoeBAC&amp;lpg=PP1&amp;pg=PA268#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false&quot;&gt;an auspicious symbol of good health and a long life&lt;/a&gt; (Google books). But from August of 1968 until roughly the fall of the following year, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rietberg.ch/en-gb/exhibitions/mao%27s-mangoes.aspx&quot;&gt;the mango was China&apos;s most revered produce item&lt;/a&gt;, whose meaning was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-mao-mango-cult-of-1968/&quot;&gt;unwittingly bestowed upon it by none other than Mao Zedong&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://presurfer.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-mao-mango-cult-of-1968-and-rise-of.html&quot;&gt;via Presurfer&lt;/a&gt;) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the early years of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution&quot;&gt;the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution&lt;/a&gt;, Chinese youth, known as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.morningsun.org/living/redguards/redguards.html&quot;&gt;Red Guards, were a formative force&lt;/a&gt; in the uprising against the bourgeois. But different factions ended up competing against each-other, leading to &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=QFZijBnU_QoC&amp;lpg=PP1&amp;pg=PA49#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false&quot;&gt;violent clashes&lt;/a&gt; (Google books). On July 27, 1968, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.massline.org/PekingReview/PR1968/PR1968-43g.htm&quot;&gt;a Mao Zedong&apos;s thought propaganda team of workers entered Bejing&apos;s Tsinghua University to disseminate Chairman Mao&apos;s latest series of instructions&lt;/a&gt;, and to quell the fighting. &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1350&amp;dat=19680815&amp;id=QPFOAAAAIBAJ&amp;sjid=nQEEAAAAIBAJ&amp;pg=7148,1882782&quot;&gt;The Red Guard was disbanded&lt;/a&gt;, due to the infighting and widespread chaos they caused. 

In an unrelated event, Pakistan&apos;s foreign minister and his wife met with Chairman Mao to pay their respects to their powerful neighbor. As a good-will gesture, a gift of mangoes were given to the Chairman. What followed was a re-gifting of unplanned significance. 

Apparently, Mao didn&apos;t like fruit, or at least he found mangoes to be messy and not worth the effort, so he sent the lot to the workers who had helped end the fighting at Tsinghua University. There, they were received as exotic gifts, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://chineseposters.net/themes/mao-mangoes.php&quot;&gt;a sign of the Chairman&apos;s blessings on the workers&lt;/a&gt;, shifting prestige from the educated youth. 

Some groups tried to preserve their mangoes in formaldehyde or wax, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/M/bo15616713.html&quot;&gt;treated as though they were religious relics&lt;/a&gt;. And because you can never really get away from consumeristic tendancies, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/the-mao-mango-cult-of-1968/&quot;&gt;mangoes showed up on everything from pencil boxes to vanity mirrors&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theeastisred.com/misc/misc1.htm&quot;&gt;reliquaries for wax mangoes&lt;/a&gt;, plus &lt;a href=&quot;http://asiaobscura.com/2011/05/mao-mangoes-together-again.html&quot;&gt;posters and pictures a-plenty&lt;/a&gt;. But &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pulitzer.org/archives/8309&quot;&gt;after a year, the mango craze faded&lt;/a&gt;, and most people tossed out their mango memorabilia.</description>
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		<title>By: yoink</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839032</link>	
		<description>Wow. What an amazing story. I found it hard to believe it wasn&apos;t just a satirical piece about the insane excesses of the Cultural Revolution.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:37:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The 10th Regiment of Foot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839060</link>	
		<description>Why is that aluminum pencil box rusty?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:48:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: milestogo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839143</link>	
		<description>Wow, what a great story. Best of the web. thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Curious Artificer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839151</link>	
		<description>I know I should try to resist seeing Monty Python references in everything, but it&apos;s hard not to think of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk&quot;&gt;The Shoe is the Sign&lt;/a&gt; while reading about this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:23:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arcticseal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839189</link>	
		<description>Talk about the cult of personality.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:39:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Foci for Analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839256</link>	
		<description>This is brilliant, filthy light thief.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:06:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ouke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839384</link>	
		<description>Not only a fantastic subject, also a great post, thanks filthy light thief! I hope nobody minds me sidetracking this post on the niche subject of &apos;Great Leaders and their Fruits&apos;, but for years I&apos;ve been wondering about Brother Fidel Castro and his Giant Strawberries. I could swear I saw a film at the IDFA documentary Festival, way back in the nineties. It was about the ambition of Castro to create basketball sized strawberries and such. (probably inspired by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Man-Sitting-on-Giant-Ear-of-Corn-Posters_i6077377_.htm?aid=81977&amp;LinkTypeID=1&amp;PosterTypeID=1&amp;DestType=7&quot;&gt;those hokey photo collages&lt;/a&gt; of farmers and their gigantic vegetables). Can&apos;t find anything about it and have been wondering since. It could have been a mockumentary, it could have been the drugs, I don&apos;t know. If there is one crowd in the world that could  enlighten me, it would be on the here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:05:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Diablevert</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839411</link>	
		<description>In a weird way, this piece gave me just a glimmer of terrifying insight of what it must have been like to be Mao. A fan club pops up and he visits them and all of a sudden there are hundreds of them, and when he tries to use them they turn rabid and begin warring among themselves....he regifts a small tribute to him because it&apos;s not to his taste and within weeks people are literally selling reliquaries to contain replicas if his gift...imagine trying to just walk around in the world knowing every footstep might spark and earthquake....I mean, obviously Mao cultivated the cult of personality around him and used it. But in someways I think even the being who is worshipped isn&apos;t in control of the religion.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:18:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tavegyl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4839554</link>	
		<description>All those mangoes, the finest in the world, uneaten. It&apos;s an arctic London evening in February and I&apos;m weeping a little.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:35:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4840013</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/125282/Dog-Day-Afternoon&quot;&gt;Good Boy &lt;strike&gt;Peach&lt;/strike&gt; Mango.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:16:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bokane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4840128</link>	
		<description>This is a fantastic post -- thank you! I love these little reminders of how crazy the Cultural Revolution was, beyond the usual unsubtle ones. On my bookcase, I&apos;ve got a copy of the commentary on the &lt;i&gt;Analects&lt;/i&gt; of Confucius by the 1974 Worker-Peasant-Soldier class of the Peking University department of Philosophy. Spoiler alert: Confucius is the &lt;em&gt;bad guy&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:16:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smoke</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;A fan club pops up and he visits them and all of a sudden there are hundreds of them, and when he tries to use them they turn rabid and begin warring among themselves&lt;/em&gt;

Hmm, that&apos;s... not exactly a strong potted history of the Cultural Revolution. The Red Guards were not really a fan club, Mao didn&apos;t &quot;try&quot; to use them as such, and they were rabid from the beginning - and warring among themselves almost from the begginning, and especially after Li Shaoqui&apos;s ouster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:12:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: legospaceman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4840315</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;All those mangoes, the finest in the world, uneaten. It&apos;s an arctic London evening in February and I&apos;m weeping a little.&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;d go a step further; You have not had a real mango unless you&apos;ve had a Pakistani mango. They are not just the best: they are qualitatively a different fruit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:10:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tavegyl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4840688</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/125270/The-momentary-madness-of-Maos-mangoes#4840315&quot;&gt;legospaceman&lt;/a&gt;, as a loyal Pakistani, I can only agree.

A little more context in response to the Collectors Weekly&apos;s slight note of bemusement regarding the original gift of mangoes:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tribune.com.pk/story/400799/aam-diplomacy-it-takes-mango-to-tango/&quot;&gt;Aam diplomacy&lt;/a&gt; (aam is a pun: it means both &apos;mango&apos; and &apos;ordinary&apos; or &apos;plain old&apos;)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sikhchic.com/cuisine/mango_diplomacy&quot;&gt;Mango diplomacy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LH25Df03.html&quot;&gt;More on mango diplomacy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsweekpakistan.com/scope/1592&quot;&gt;Mango diplomacy fails&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/arts/14iht-idbriefs14C.1.13692151.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0&quot;&gt;Exploding mangoes&lt;/a&gt; (NYT)

I heartily recommend A Case of Exploding Mangoes to anyone who wants a real flavour of what it was like growing up in Pakistan in the 80s.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 11:28:13 -0800</pubDate>
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