The roads I drive are haunted by memories
March 13, 2013 4:48 PM   Subscribe

Euro Truck Simulator 2 is available now.
posted by Sebmojo (55 comments total) 15 users marked this as a favorite

 
Maybe this is a stupid question, I only read the brief blurb about it, but is it.....in real-time, or what?
posted by Brocktoon at 4:53 PM on March 13, 2013


It's in real time (as in you don't drive at 2x the speed or anything), but I think the maps are compressed such that you're not actually driving hundreds of kilometers, it just looks like it. This video should give you an idea of what to expect.
posted by chrominance at 5:02 PM on March 13, 2013 [3 favorites]


Give Me 40 Acres (and I'll Turn This Rig Around).
posted by mazola at 5:03 PM on March 13, 2013


The day/night cycle is accelerated. I don't know if the distances are scaled the same. For such a seemingly mundane topic, it look to be very well made, compared to some previous attempts at the subject.

Here's another (more haphazard) view of the game at Giant Bomb.
posted by IAmDrWorm at 5:04 PM on March 13, 2013


Desert Bus.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:17 PM on March 13, 2013 [3 favorites]


Whenever I need to get psyched, I play this song. My record is ten consecutive listenings on Interstate 84 near Baker City, Oregon. I ate a whole pizza for lunch and I'm up to three right now.
posted by compartment at 5:21 PM on March 13, 2013


These guys make all kinds of weird stuff. Seriously:

Camping Manager 2012
Airport Control Tower
Stone Quarry Simulator
Emergency Ambulance Simulator
Airport Firefighter Simulator
Underground Mining Simulator (make sure the ends meet!)
Ski Region Simulator
Oil Platform Simulator
Etc.

All real games. Nearly all available on Steam. Plan your weekend accordingly.
posted by disillusioned at 5:32 PM on March 13, 2013 [4 favorites]


After seeing that post on Baudrillard yesterday, I can see him (in heaven) playing this game for hours on end--but I don't know if he would love it or hate it.
posted by zardoz at 5:35 PM on March 13, 2013


Here's another (more haphazard) view of the game at Giant Bomb.

I don't really have 2 hours and 10 minutes to devote to this right now, but do they ever manage to get that horn upgrade?
posted by Pre-Taped Call In Show at 5:40 PM on March 13, 2013


A number of people on Gamers With Jobs bought this game, looking for a new really terrible title as a gag gift, and they actually like it pretty well. They've been swapping tips back and forth. It appears to be a genuine offering, and they seem to be enjoying it, when they went in with the express intent of laughing.

I don't think I'm going to pick it up, but it looks like, if you have any real interest in big rigs, this is pretty good.

Lots of driving on the left, though.
posted by Malor at 5:41 PM on March 13, 2013


Gah, I just bought Football Manager 2013.
posted by Doofus Magoo at 5:43 PM on March 13, 2013


It's so realistic that after 8 hours playing the boss phones you up and tells you to take the card out of the tachograph and jam a pen in it instead.
posted by Jehan at 5:45 PM on March 13, 2013 [6 favorites]


Possibly related to Train Simulator? Hopefully we'll see some more videos posted - I saw this somewhere on the blue, but I can't find the original post.
posted by LionIndex at 5:48 PM on March 13, 2013


Coming soon: SIMULATOR DEVELOPER SIMULATOR!
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 6:13 PM on March 13, 2013 [9 favorites]


It is a serious game, with serious attention to detail. Realistic enough that I get panicy watching people drive badly. It is only 2 in the Euro Truck Simulator series but like the 10th truck sim these guys have made.
posted by Ad hominem at 6:31 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Check out northernlion playing euro truck simulator 2. He says "I make fun of sims, but right now I am eating my fucking words"
posted by Ad hominem at 6:34 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


The roads I drive are haunted by memories
posted by Joey Michaels at 6:38 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


I hope we get some MLG-style videos of this with shakycam and sick dubstep drops.
posted by Ghostride The Whip at 6:39 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


This seems a good place to plug Tricky Truck (2010). Low-fi, solid physics, and kind of insane!
posted by anthill at 7:32 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Perhaps people have not enjoyed Game Dev Story yet? Not quite simulator developer simulator levels of reference, but only one indirection away...
posted by minedev at 7:43 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


I don't really have 2 hours and 10 minutes to devote to this right now, but do they ever manage to get that horn upgrade?

UPDATE! (Spoilers!)

No they do not.
posted by Pre-Taped Call In Show at 7:52 PM on March 13, 2013


As sad as it may be, I think that playing this game would/could be more rewarding than my daily working life.
posted by Divest_Abstraction at 7:52 PM on March 13, 2013 [3 favorites]


Forget the one I linked earlier - this one is much better.
posted by LionIndex at 8:00 PM on March 13, 2013


DAF Punk
posted by Flashman at 8:09 PM on March 13, 2013 [2 favorites]


"A game! Well, you may thought it was a game, but it was also a test. Aha, a test. Sent out across the universe to find those with the gift to be Starfighters. And here you are, my boy! Here you are!"
posted by qxntpqbbbqxl at 8:14 PM on March 13, 2013 [8 favorites]


It makes you wonder if for every job, there is someone, somewhere, who will pay money to do it. Lots of service jobs are easy to turn into games -- imagine Short Order Cook 2000, SimPersonalShopper, Grocery Store Tycoon. I worked on a robotic lawnmower prototype for a bit and driving the lawnmower from a laptop, with live video and keyboard controls, was really quite fun. I don't see why some gamer couldn't relax by mowing real lawns on the other side of the world.
posted by miyabo at 8:18 PM on March 13, 2013 [3 favorites]


Hilarious! I was once gainfully employed as a big-rig truck driver, and I remember thinking at the time: "This could make a semi-compelling video game...".
posted by littlejohnnyjewel at 8:36 PM on March 13, 2013


Bored by Euro Truck Simulator? Is all of Europe too expansive for you? How do you feel about public transit? How about Berlin before the fall of the iron curtain?

Well, have I got the game for you.
posted by schmod at 9:00 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Scania Truck Driving Simulator
sexier trucks

are those in the full ETS?
posted by snuffleupagus at 9:04 PM on March 13, 2013


Euro Truck Sim 2 was a day-one purchase for me, and I've now put in 100+ hours (of real time) and have a nice little hauling company set up. Similar amounts of time have gone into Agricultural / Farming Simulator (there are two competing Serious Farm Sims), Demolition Company, Woodcutter Simulator, Ship Sim 2008, The Port-Authority Trans-Hudson (PATH) simulator (recreating my daily commute for 2 years, only now I'm in the driver's seat! It is very dark) and various other insane German / Eastern European simulators and "serious games".

Probably a few thousand hours invested in Trainz and Railworks, though to me that's a side effect of being into physical model train layouts. Flight and racing sims too, for which I own slightly less than "fanatic level" hardware, but still dedicated control setups.

I have no idea what compels me to play these (is play even the right word? Work on these?) without a hint of irony. My friends and family find my obsession hilarious, so it's always at least good for a laugh when I'm talking about my exploits in Bridge Building Simulator... but I ....can't... stop. In fact, I'm probably going to go plow a cornfield right now, and that's not a sex euphemism.

....
Please send help.
posted by jake at 9:08 PM on March 13, 2013 [22 favorites]


I have a love/hate relationship with this series almost from the beginning: I love the idea but hate the execution.
I love the idea so much that I dug for weeks in truck classifieds to extract from them the real configurations of trucks, engine names, performance data, you name it.
I hate the execution so much that after pouring all that data into the game files I uninstalled the game and deleted all the files in a fit of rage.
This was a game where you could do a tight 90 degree turn at 40 mph while hauling a house and drive into the sunset if you timed it just right. With the house still attached.
This was a game where repeatedly ramming other vehicles, including police cars, earned you fines. You also had repair the truck. Smashing your 18-wheeler into a concrete wall could well cost you a few thousand bucks. Not to mention the cargo, even though it might have seemed completely intact.
And they had the gall to call it a simulation.
What was realistic? Maybe that nothing much happened.
I'm afraid they did it again - enhanced the looks and not much else. Oh well, time to find out and rtfa...
posted by hat_eater at 9:08 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


snuffleupagus: "Scania Truck Driving Simulator
sexier trucks
"

Oh, man. That's a tiny step closer toward my dream of making Husqvarna Sunrise into a real game...

I'd also play the hell out of GTA:SAAB.
posted by schmod at 9:09 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


We should totally start a MeFi Serious Gaming and Simulator Club as an adjunct to MeFightClub

MeFlightClub?
posted by jake at 9:14 PM on March 13, 2013 [1 favorite]


Oh, what a splendid idea!
posted by hat_eater at 9:16 PM on March 13, 2013


Dang, I thought there was a new version out and and now my children are mocking me. Everyone (but me) knows version 2 has been out for ages!

I can't believe I managed to miss the Mefi post about OMSI. We actually bought it after watching this playthrough. We also have Euro Truck Simulator (VERSION 2!!!1), bought on the same fellow's recommendation.
posted by gamera at 9:42 PM on March 13, 2013


miyabo: imagine Short Order Cook 2000, SimPersonalShopper, Grocery Store Tycoon

Well, I haven't seen anything that matches the latter two, but Short Order Cook 2000 is also known as Cook, Serve, Delicious! It's actually quite good. I eventually stopped playing when further advancement required me to master the cooking stations that are least well-thought-out, but running the restaurant with the sensible stations was good fun for a surprisingly long time.

The 'dating' part, though, is just entirely stupid.
posted by Malor at 10:27 PM on March 13, 2013 [2 favorites]


Did someone already post this? Farming Simulator Mad Skill | No Plow | 360 Crop Rotation |
posted by jcruelty at 11:43 PM on March 13, 2013


On the one hand, I can understand the allure of certain kinds of simulator games. I quickly lost interest in the actual plot of GTA: San Andreas, but still enjoyed flying over the city in a stolen jet or doing some dusty, dangerous, off-road driving in the mountains. That's stuff I would never do in real life.

But stuff like this baffles me. If you want to go for a long drive at night, why not go for an actual drive? That experience has to be much richer than the virtual version would be. I guess I can see the value of something like this as a training aid for prospective truckers, but otherwise... Why spend hours pretending to do an actual, not particularly glamorous job that people do for a living, when you're not getting paid for it? Even if you somehow got sucked into it once, for an hour or two, what would keep you back? How does this not feel like a huge waste of time? (I don't mean to piss on anybody's hobby, I just genuinely do not get the appeal.)
posted by Ursula Hitler at 11:58 PM on March 13, 2013


No, it's okay, I kind of don't fully get it either, and I'm kind of fascinated by why / how these sims even exist (and especially why so many of them are made in Germany -- not EuroTruck but so many others).

But I can only really speak for myself! I've theorized that it's because 90% of my waking life is sustained creative output; writing music all day every day leaves me pretty drained. So when I have downtime I can't think of anything more soothing than sitting on my couch and driving a virtual combine back and forth across a field, harvesting virtual wheat. There is no point to it at all, and that's the point, it's my way of telling the muse to fuck straight off for a couple hours, so I can recharge my mana / health / stamina bars. (I like Skyrim/Oblivion too, but only as a hiking simulator)

As far as "going for an actual drive" you're definitely right, and I do love driving real cars! But it's much more expensive, dangerous, and (for me, with arthritis) physically strenuous. And I am not likely to go out and get a real aviation or train-driving license, though I'm fairly certain that if I were on a plane and the pilots were killed by huge snakes, I could probably get us through an instrument landing.
posted by jake at 2:00 AM on March 14, 2013


For something like Football Manager, where you're basically simulating all the boring bits of soccer and the actual game play is largely out of your hands, the appeal is understandable, in that you can finally make e.g. Plymouth Argyle into the Barcelona beating powerhouse they were always meant to be.

But truck simulators?
posted by MartinWisse at 2:23 AM on March 14, 2013


Computer truck simulators are nothing compared to real life digger crane RC excavations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSQE1TFTQw

The last 30 seconds of this had me creasing up with laughter. YMMV.

Funny how work becomes enjoyable, if we have chosen with free will. Money would spoil everything.
posted by molloy at 3:07 AM on March 14, 2013 [2 favorites]


What's with all these simulators lately. It seems like such an odd thing. I mean, on the one hand I kind of get it, it's curiosity. What's it like to drive a semi? What's it like to drive a street sweeper? But it seems like something I might try for five minutes before becoming mega-bored.

On the other hand the five year old me would probably be in absolute heaven.

So is this what's this is about? Just making games that toddlers obsessed with big trucks and machinery would love?
posted by delmoi at 3:59 AM on March 14, 2013


Computer truck simulators are nothing compared to real life digger crane RC excavations.
OMG. Toddler me just had his MIND. BLOWN.
posted by delmoi at 4:13 AM on March 14, 2013


If you want to go for a long drive at night, why not go for an actual drive? That experience has to be much richer than the virtual version would be.

Well, gas prices are kind of crazy these days. At $4 a gallon driving for 30 minutes at 40mph and 30 MPG costs $4g-1*0.5h*40mh-1*(30mg-1)-1 = $4g-120m*(1/30)m-1g = $4*20m*1/30m = $2.66, assuming my attempt to compute that entirely through dimensional analysis worked.

So, it's not cheap - and if you have less efficient vehicle it's even more expensive. These games can't cost very much, so you could buy a simulator for the cost of, maybe, a couple hours of driving around.

(And in Europe, gas is even more expensive)

posted by delmoi at 4:35 AM on March 14, 2013


I don't see why some gamer couldn't relax by mowing real lawns on the other side of the world.

I find that just about everything is fun until your continued existence depends on it. Once you can't put it down when you get bored with it is what turns it into a job.
posted by backseatpilot at 5:18 AM on March 14, 2013 [3 favorites]


But stuff like this baffles me. If you want to go for a long drive at night, why not go for an actual drive?

My guess is it's too expensive (gas+vehicle+service) and you can't quit if you're 100 km from home and find yourself bored. It's not my thing, but simulators have always had an audience (MS Flight Simulator, Falcon, racing games of varying realism etc.), and servicing that market seems better than making yet another copy-paste FPS.
posted by ersatz at 7:10 AM on March 14, 2013


At SRL we bought an old street sweeper, more fun to drive than I thought it would be. The thing was back heavy, so popping the clutch while climbing a hill would get the front end about 3 ft off the ground for about 100 ft. The pulse jets were just for looks.
posted by boilermonster at 9:29 AM on March 14, 2013


If you want to go for a long drive at night, why not go for an actual drive? That experience has to be much richer than the virtual version would be.

Well, but you can only drive on nearby roads, ones you've probably seen many times before, unless you drive a long way away. And, as delmoi points out, it's expensive to do this, both in terms of gas, and in wear and tear on the vehicle.

You buy the simulator once, and then driving anywhere it models costs a few pennies, and you can easily get to places that are nothing like where you live in real life.

That said, usually people want to be doing more than just driving, which is why there are games layered on top.
posted by Malor at 11:26 AM on March 14, 2013


This reminds me of an idea I had for a driving game: NY to LA. The goal is to break the legendary 32 hours, 7 minute record (or maybe the subsequent record of 31 hours, 4 minutes) for driving from New York to Los Angeles. Everything is in real-time and in hard mode, there is no pause.
posted by mhum at 11:28 AM on March 14, 2013 [2 favorites]


At $4 a gallon driving for 30 minutes at 40mph and 30 MPG costs $4g-1*0.5h*40mh-1*(30mg-1)-1 = $4g-120m*(1/30)m-1g = $4*20m*1/30m = $2.66, assuming my attempt to compute that entirely through dimensional analysis worked.

You certainly made that complex. You can do this in a much simpler way; you don't care about speed, all you care about, in terms of cost, is mileage. In a 30mpg car, cost per mile is 13.33 cents.

So if you want to drive 30 minutes at 40 mph, that's 20 miles, or $2.66.

You did get the right answer, but what a painful way to get there.
posted by Malor at 11:34 AM on March 14, 2013


I downloaded the demo of this last night. Holy hell is this game relaxing. I just put on a podcast and then drive down the road. I wish there was a way to hide all of the HUD for maximum immersion. I even use turn indicators.

At one point, I was driving down a 2 way road when I almost plowed into someone who went into the oncoming lane to pass. At my destination, I waited for traffic to clear so I could turn into the lot, and one of the NPC cars halted traffic and flashed his lights for me to go forward.

This game is bloody insane, I think I'm going to have to buy it.
posted by hellojed at 11:59 AM on March 14, 2013 [3 favorites]


This reminds me of an idea I had for a driving game: NY to LA. The goal is to break the legendary 32 hours, 7 minute record (or maybe the subsequent record of 31 hours, 4 minutes) for driving from New York to Los Angeles. Everything is in real-time and in hard mode, there is no pause.

And if you crash, the game uninstalls itself, and you can never purchase it again.
posted by davejay at 12:56 PM on March 14, 2013 [1 favorite]


So if you want to drive 30 minutes at 40 mph, that's 20 miles, or $2.66.

You did get the right answer, but what a painful way to get there.
Well, it took a long time to type, with all those superscripts, but it's actually quite painless - you just look at which things cancel and cancel them. It's also a good technique to practice, since you can use it in more complex physics problems.
posted by delmoi at 6:00 PM on March 14, 2013


Hey, there's plenty of space at MeFightClub for serious simulatorheads! Matter of fact I know there's a group of people there who play Rise of Flight, the flying-lawnmower/WWI plane simulator.
posted by Drexen at 8:46 AM on March 15, 2013


Ursula Hitler: "But stuff like this baffles me. If you want to go for a long drive at night, why not go for an actual drive?"

Besides the cost mentioned above it might not be night when you want to go for a long night drive.
posted by Mitheral at 8:32 AM on March 17, 2013


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