For the Emperor! For the Imperium of Man!
April 24, 2013 12:22 AM Subscribe
I'm just going to assume that Boston Dynamics commissioned this to overlay on one of their terrifying creations.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 12:31 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 12:31 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
In the grim darkness of the far future there is only cosplay.
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 12:35 AM on April 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 12:35 AM on April 24, 2013 [19 favorites]
I'm happy to say that my teenage self could identify the legion and I... cannot. Progress!
posted by axiom at 12:46 AM on April 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
posted by axiom at 12:46 AM on April 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
That is the best thing ever. I think I drooled a little.
I want that so bad. Is it wrong to be thinking which chaos god I could bargain with for that? If I did bargain with a chaos god, would it come to me all chaosy, or would I have to barter away another fraction of my soul?
posted by Ghidorah at 12:49 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I want that so bad. Is it wrong to be thinking which chaos god I could bargain with for that? If I did bargain with a chaos god, would it come to me all chaosy, or would I have to barter away another fraction of my soul?
posted by Ghidorah at 12:49 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I don't really know Warhammer all that well but I know enough* to know that this is awesome!
*That is to say, I am able to view this.
posted by DyRE at 12:51 AM on April 24, 2013
*That is to say, I am able to view this.
posted by DyRE at 12:51 AM on April 24, 2013
axiom, the article says Imperial Fists, but it's a special character, so standard chapter colors might be different. If it was just a standard terminator, you'd probably know the chapter.
Progress: denied.
posted by Ghidorah at 12:51 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Progress: denied.
posted by Ghidorah at 12:51 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Wow.
I had always been skeptical that humans really could fit into terminator armor at the proportions displayed. This is just amazing though.
posted by chemoboy at 1:12 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I had always been skeptical that humans really could fit into terminator armor at the proportions displayed. This is just amazing though.
posted by chemoboy at 1:12 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Expect a cease and desist notification from Games Workshop for IP infringement at any moment.
posted by foleypt at 1:20 AM on April 24, 2013 [14 favorites]
posted by foleypt at 1:20 AM on April 24, 2013 [14 favorites]
Unfortunately walking in the suit makes it look like you've wet your underpants.
Looks brilliant up to that point though.
posted by pipeski at 1:40 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Looks brilliant up to that point though.
posted by pipeski at 1:40 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
He should team up with these guys and maybe purge some heretics.
posted by dazed_one at 1:56 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by dazed_one at 1:56 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
FOAM FOR THE FOAM GOD!
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:48 AM on April 24, 2013 [32 favorites]
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:48 AM on April 24, 2013 [32 favorites]
Warhammer is one of those things it's surprisingly easy to get obsessive about. I have to remind myself about the amount of brainspace I've dedicated to histories, point values, tactics, painting techniques, and so on every time I see a kid focused on Pokemon or Beyblade or Digimon or whatever it is they're doing on my damn lawn. Usually, I stop myself in time, but sometimes... sometimes... before I even realize it the foam suit is on and the chainsword is a'hummin'.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:53 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:53 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
I was all ready to come in here, my finger and nose in the air, to say that it couldn't possibly be the best 40K costume ever. But it could be. And, dear gods, it is.
posted by cthuljew at 3:04 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by cthuljew at 3:04 AM on April 24, 2013
Woah, that 40k wikia sure is comprehensive. I'm off to spend some quality time with my 12 year old self.
posted by moorooka at 3:25 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by moorooka at 3:25 AM on April 24, 2013
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective. It's slow and places a person in danger, whereas drones are expendable.
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 3:31 AM on April 24, 2013
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 3:31 AM on April 24, 2013
Warhammer 40k is one of those things I always found cool but never got into - I'm saving it for when I decide to go into full-on Voluntary Celibacy Mode.
posted by Dr Dracator at 3:32 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by Dr Dracator at 3:32 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
Brandon, tactical dreadnought or "terminator" armour is designed for boarding actions and teleport assaults where the initiative of the individual space marine is critical. Plus, the Imperium had a Butlerian jihad a while back so their autonomous systems technology is remarkably primitive.
posted by nicolas léonard sadi carnot at 3:43 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by nicolas léonard sadi carnot at 3:43 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective
Also, it looks like his only weapon is a big hammer (a warhammer?). So there's that.
posted by Ned G at 4:07 AM on April 24, 2013
Also, it looks like his only weapon is a big hammer (a warhammer?). So there's that.
posted by Ned G at 4:07 AM on April 24, 2013
In the grim darkness of the far future suburban parking lot there is only cosplay.
posted by HeroZero at 4:29 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by HeroZero at 4:29 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
It's slow and places a person in danger, whereas drones are expendable.
Please hold, filthy Tau sympathiser, the Inquisition will be with you as soon as the pokers are satisfactorily heated and the Lobotomised Boys' Choir has completed the third verse of 'We are the laces in His holy jackboot'.
(but hey how much does terminator armour look like Grumpy Cat, previously I always figured the Emperor really liked pugs)
posted by emmtee at 4:30 AM on April 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
Please hold, filthy Tau sympathiser, the Inquisition will be with you as soon as the pokers are satisfactorily heated and the Lobotomised Boys' Choir has completed the third verse of 'We are the laces in His holy jackboot'.
(but hey how much does terminator armour look like Grumpy Cat, previously I always figured the Emperor really liked pugs)
posted by emmtee at 4:30 AM on April 24, 2013 [10 favorites]
whereas drones are expendable
Have you ever seen what a genestealer does to drones? It's not pretty. Besides, that's no ordinary human. That there is a genetically modified, seven to eight foot tall behemoth of righteous fury and the personification of divine will driven from on high by the emperor himself as he sits on the golden throne.
I think I need help.
posted by Ghidorah at 4:48 AM on April 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
Have you ever seen what a genestealer does to drones? It's not pretty. Besides, that's no ordinary human. That there is a genetically modified, seven to eight foot tall behemoth of righteous fury and the personification of divine will driven from on high by the emperor himself as he sits on the golden throne.
I think I need help.
posted by Ghidorah at 4:48 AM on April 24, 2013 [11 favorites]
chemoboy: "I had always been skeptical that humans really could fit into terminator armor at the proportions displayed. This is just amazing though."
It's way to short but naturally there isn't anything one can do about that as current primitive ungene-spliced humans aren't 7'6" tall weighing 700lbs.
posted by Mitheral at 4:59 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
It's way to short but naturally there isn't anything one can do about that as current primitive ungene-spliced humans aren't 7'6" tall weighing 700lbs.
posted by Mitheral at 4:59 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
One rarely disappoints with a skull on one's crotch.
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:06 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:06 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
I don't know anything about this, but I love that someone made it. Fucking cool.
posted by OmieWise at 5:09 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by OmieWise at 5:09 AM on April 24, 2013
I love Warhammer 40K for starting out as a parody of a thing only to become the ne plus ultra of same.
This is great.
posted by Rustic Etruscan at 5:11 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
This is great.
posted by Rustic Etruscan at 5:11 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
tactical dreadnought or "terminator" armour is designed for boarding actions and teleport assaults where the initiative of the individual space marine is critical.
Ah. So it would be better to have cables about ankle high to trip the dreadnoughts? 'Cause it doesn't look like one can easily get up in "terminator" armour.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:12 AM on April 24, 2013
Ah. So it would be better to have cables about ankle high to trip the dreadnoughts? 'Cause it doesn't look like one can easily get up in "terminator" armour.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:12 AM on April 24, 2013
In the grim darkness of the far future suburban parking lot there is only cosplay.
Yeah I don't get this - they spend a couple of months away from their girlfriends (heh who am I kidding) on something quite creative and skilful, and rather than take one hour to paint a nice backdrop, they stomp around a frigging car park ??
posted by wilful at 5:15 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
One of my favorite fan theories about Space Marine physiology is that they no longer have external genitals after their transformation into Space Marines is complete. The extensive re-working of the plumbing that would be required if this theory were true nicely explains the high mortality rate of Space Marine candidates, the fact that the only lust they experience after becoming Space Marines is the lust for battle, and the curious absence of any discussion of Space Marine genitals in any of the WH40K codices or lit. In short, they all look like Ken dolls down there.
posted by longdaysjourney at 5:27 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Who needs a system to expel waste when your metabolism is 100% efficient?
posted by Gin and Comics at 5:32 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by Gin and Comics at 5:32 AM on April 24, 2013
This is fantastic.
In other geek news, any update on asavage's Fifth Element gun?
posted by arcticseal at 5:45 AM on April 24, 2013
In other geek news, any update on asavage's Fifth Element gun?
posted by arcticseal at 5:45 AM on April 24, 2013
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
Are you talking about the physical problem of eliminating waste in that suit, or the engineering/social problem of getting in and out of bathrooms and stalls?
The second one is the reason he has that big hammer.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:46 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
Are you talking about the physical problem of eliminating waste in that suit, or the engineering/social problem of getting in and out of bathrooms and stalls?
The second one is the reason he has that big hammer.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:46 AM on April 24, 2013 [6 favorites]
longdaysjourney : That must suck for the Emperor's Children; or it may explain why they threw in with the Chaos God of lust and excess in the first place.
posted by Grimgrin at 5:47 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by Grimgrin at 5:47 AM on April 24, 2013
Yeah, about the bathroom. Somehow I had momentarily turned off the ad blocker here, and there was a big, pink, shameless animated ad for adult diapers at the end of the pictures. I'm not sure if I should be scared or impressed at the ad placement algorithms.
posted by Iosephus at 5:58 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
posted by Iosephus at 5:58 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
They need to go hang out with Shawn Thorsson.
...although I think Terminator guys are supposed to be bigger than regular Marines, and consequently the scale might be off.
posted by aramaic at 6:06 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
...although I think Terminator guys are supposed to be bigger than regular Marines, and consequently the scale might be off.
posted by aramaic at 6:06 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Well, seeing as the first thing half the Emperor's Children did upon succumbing to the Prince of Pleasure is sprout boobs, I'm pretty sure they were not too troubled by the loss of their dongles to begin with.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:07 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:07 AM on April 24, 2013
What a costume! Poor guy inside is probably sweating to death.
posted by AllChildrenMatter at 6:10 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by AllChildrenMatter at 6:10 AM on April 24, 2013
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective. It's slow and places a person in danger, whereas drones are expendable.
So, you play Necrons, then?
posted by Slap*Happy at 6:10 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
So, you play Necrons, then?
posted by Slap*Happy at 6:10 AM on April 24, 2013 [4 favorites]
Yes, but is it bullet proof?
posted by It is better for you not to know. at 6:13 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by It is better for you not to know. at 6:13 AM on April 24, 2013
a big, pink, shameless animated ad for adult diapers
***Get your adult diapers from Forge World Sanitarion! Eighteen trillion sold!! Keep your servitors clean and efficient with the preferred product of His Imperial Majesty's Adeptus Arbites! Also suitable for Penitent Engines, bound Pskyers, Arco-Flagellants and those special nights at the Governor's mansion!!! Any suggestion that Forge World Sanitarion is a front for Slaaneshi cultists is rank heresy and will be dealt with accordingly!! Call now on ASTRONOMICON I255.12 D994.1!!!!***
posted by emmtee at 6:15 AM on April 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
***Get your adult diapers from Forge World Sanitarion! Eighteen trillion sold!! Keep your servitors clean and efficient with the preferred product of His Imperial Majesty's Adeptus Arbites! Also suitable for Penitent Engines, bound Pskyers, Arco-Flagellants and those special nights at the Governor's mansion!!! Any suggestion that Forge World Sanitarion is a front for Slaaneshi cultists is rank heresy and will be dealt with accordingly!! Call now on ASTRONOMICON I255.12 D994.1!!!!***
posted by emmtee at 6:15 AM on April 24, 2013 [7 favorites]
In the grim future of Warhammer 40K, there is only... adult diaper jokes.
posted by GenjiandProust at 6:27 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by GenjiandProust at 6:27 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
GenjiandProust: "In the grim future of Warhammer 40K, there is only... adult diaper jokes."
So, the Emperor depends rather than protects?
Yessir, Mr. Inquisitor, me? Right n
posted by Samizdata at 6:33 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
So, the Emperor depends rather than protects?
Yessir, Mr. Inquisitor, me? Right n
posted by Samizdata at 6:33 AM on April 24, 2013 [5 favorites]
Is this Spots the Space Marine?
posted by smackwich at 6:36 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by smackwich at 6:36 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Yea stuff like this proves I have no talent.
posted by stormpooper at 7:03 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by stormpooper at 7:03 AM on April 24, 2013
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective. It's slow and places a person in danger, whereas drones are expendable.
I'm not too up on Warhammer, but I'm pretty sure the actual suits are heavily mechanized, full of servos and jetpacks. That foam version is slow, but the 'real' version, if such a thing could actually exist, would be much faster, and terribly deadly.
Also, it looks like his only weapon is a big hammer (a warhammer?). So there's that.
Yeah, but they could wreck a semi with one solid strike, so there's that, too.
posted by Malor at 7:22 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I'm not too up on Warhammer, but I'm pretty sure the actual suits are heavily mechanized, full of servos and jetpacks. That foam version is slow, but the 'real' version, if such a thing could actually exist, would be much faster, and terribly deadly.
Also, it looks like his only weapon is a big hammer (a warhammer?). So there's that.
Yeah, but they could wreck a semi with one solid strike, so there's that, too.
posted by Malor at 7:22 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Who needs a system to expel waste...
I thought that's where their ammo came from.
posted by ODiV at 7:22 AM on April 24, 2013
I thought that's where their ammo came from.
posted by ODiV at 7:22 AM on April 24, 2013
I love that the technology to do this is now in the hands of semi-normal people.
This can only mean that my children will have Halloween costumes that will blow my mind.
posted by Phreesh at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2013
This can only mean that my children will have Halloween costumes that will blow my mind.
posted by Phreesh at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2013
Larks could still take him out with one well placed hot shot.
Men of Tanith! Do you want to live forever?
posted by kbanas at 8:21 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Men of Tanith! Do you want to live forever?
posted by kbanas at 8:21 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Yeah I don't get this - they spend a couple of months away from their girlfriends (heh who am I kidding)
When I write my novel, every character will be unwillingly celibate except the enthusiastic stamp collector.
posted by Rustic Etruscan at 8:25 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
When I write my novel, every character will be unwillingly celibate except the enthusiastic stamp collector.
posted by Rustic Etruscan at 8:25 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective.
Terminators are slow, for sure, but you have to think of them less as people, and more like tanks that walk. They are heavily armored and can take an incredible amount of punishment. They have an incredible amount of firepower (a Terminator can easily carry an assault cannon in one hand). And also, they kick ass.
A normal Space Marine is faster.
But, to quote my friend the Heavy, "Faster than.. .bullet?"
posted by kbanas at 8:26 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Terminators are slow, for sure, but you have to think of them less as people, and more like tanks that walk. They are heavily armored and can take an incredible amount of punishment. They have an incredible amount of firepower (a Terminator can easily carry an assault cannon in one hand). And also, they kick ass.
A normal Space Marine is faster.
But, to quote my friend the Heavy, "Faster than.. .bullet?"
posted by kbanas at 8:26 AM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Because someone has to be a nitpicker: where's the Storm Shield?
Otherwise, this rocks. I can hardly wait for the Lightning Claws version.
posted by McCoy Pauley at 8:42 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Otherwise, this rocks. I can hardly wait for the Lightning Claws version.
posted by McCoy Pauley at 8:42 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Larks could still take him out with one well placed hot shot.
One of the best parts of the series is when, in the later books, the Tanith elite start going up against Chaos Marines and are all like HOLYSHITWEAREGOINGTO DIE. These are dudes who blow through Blood Pact like their Doritos Locos, but one guy in a suit on ancient power armor has them running for the trees.
Except for Mkvenner, of course. He is the trees.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:19 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
One of the best parts of the series is when, in the later books, the Tanith elite start going up against Chaos Marines and are all like HOLYSHITWEAREGOINGTO DIE. These are dudes who blow through Blood Pact like their Doritos Locos, but one guy in a suit on ancient power armor has them running for the trees.
Except for Mkvenner, of course. He is the trees.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:19 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Awesome creation, but silly suit from a tactical perspective. It's slow and places a person in danger, whereas drones are expendable.
The thing about drones is that while they're cheap and expendable there's lots of things that humans are capable of that drones simply cannot do.
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
But that's a perfect example!
posted by aubilenon at 9:28 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
The thing about drones is that while they're cheap and expendable there's lots of things that humans are capable of that drones simply cannot do.
Let's not even get into the issue of going to the bathroom.
But that's a perfect example!
posted by aubilenon at 9:28 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
One of the best parts of the series is when, in the later books, the Tanith elite start going up against Chaos Marines and are all like HOLYSHITWEAREGOINGTO DIE. These are dudes who blow through Blood Pact like their Doritos Locos, but one guy in a suit on ancient power armor has them running for the trees.
Well, it's funny. I was actually just re-reading these books, because, I don't know. I was going through a phase.
You're talking about Traitor General, I think, which is the only one where they go head to head with Chaos Marines. They're on that covert mission to Gereon and they're in the Untill and they get attacked by 5 of them, and yeah, they're like, HOLYSHITWEAREGOINGTODIE, but, somehow, they manage to kill all 5 of them without a scratch... And I remember Gaunt even fights the main bad guy and guts him with a chainsword, and I was like, "Really? Really?"
I know, in a book series as fantastical as all that, that was the thing that left me incredulous.
I hope they bring Mkvenner back some day. Mkoll is bad ass, but he needs his partner in crime.
posted by kbanas at 9:32 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Well, it's funny. I was actually just re-reading these books, because, I don't know. I was going through a phase.
You're talking about Traitor General, I think, which is the only one where they go head to head with Chaos Marines. They're on that covert mission to Gereon and they're in the Untill and they get attacked by 5 of them, and yeah, they're like, HOLYSHITWEAREGOINGTODIE, but, somehow, they manage to kill all 5 of them without a scratch... And I remember Gaunt even fights the main bad guy and guts him with a chainsword, and I was like, "Really? Really?"
I know, in a book series as fantastical as all that, that was the thing that left me incredulous.
I hope they bring Mkvenner back some day. Mkoll is bad ass, but he needs his partner in crime.
posted by kbanas at 9:32 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Dan Abnett has always been a big softie.
posted by Artw at 9:37 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Artw at 9:37 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I just want to thank the creative process that it wasn't another Ultramarine.
Terminators are slow and purposeful, and meant to be thrust in the midst of the enemy. Their armor is stronger than a standard marine and they make use of some of the more-powerful weapons. Terminators are not meant for tactical flexibility nor are they meant for speed. It's almost like you've got Marvel's Avengers fighting in the middle of an opposing army, and then suddenly you decide you're going to teleport in The Hulk to get up in everybody's bid-ness.
In my wildest fantasies, we'd eventually find a bodybuilder who's into Kharn the Betrayer cosplay. Oh yeah, baby, flex that Gorechild.
posted by CancerMan at 9:40 AM on April 24, 2013
Terminators are slow and purposeful, and meant to be thrust in the midst of the enemy. Their armor is stronger than a standard marine and they make use of some of the more-powerful weapons. Terminators are not meant for tactical flexibility nor are they meant for speed. It's almost like you've got Marvel's Avengers fighting in the middle of an opposing army, and then suddenly you decide you're going to teleport in The Hulk to get up in everybody's bid-ness.
In my wildest fantasies, we'd eventually find a bodybuilder who's into Kharn the Betrayer cosplay. Oh yeah, baby, flex that Gorechild.
posted by CancerMan at 9:40 AM on April 24, 2013
Yeah, that Agun Soric was on easy street once he signed up with the Tanith. Nowhere to go but up! (in a puff of superheated plasma)
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:41 AM on April 24, 2013
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:41 AM on April 24, 2013
Yeah, that Agun Soric was on easy street once he signed up with the Tanith. Nowhere to go but up! (in a puff of superheated plasma)
"Hey Guys! Here are a bunch of really important warnings! I saved you all! I'm the big hero!"
"Guys..? ....Guys?"
posted by kbanas at 9:54 AM on April 24, 2013
"Hey Guys! Here are a bunch of really important warnings! I saved you all! I'm the big hero!"
"Guys..? ....Guys?"
posted by kbanas at 9:54 AM on April 24, 2013
Warhammer became a lot more fun to me when I decided that my commander was the titular character - a blood-crazed butcher who uses his selection of glazed and smoked hams in defence of the Empire.
posted by forgetful snow at 10:11 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by forgetful snow at 10:11 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Also, it looks like his only weapon is a big hammer (a warhammer?). So there's that.
Hey, that's the name of the series!
posted by 2bucksplus at 10:16 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Hey, that's the name of the series!
posted by 2bucksplus at 10:16 AM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Also, a Thunder Hammer is a warhammer with an energy field generator (collectively grouped as a power weapon). Upon impact, this energy is released and in addition to rending through armor, emits a shockwave that can stun larger opponents or vehicle crews.
So, to add to my previous flimsy analogy, you've just equipped The Hulk with Mjolnir.
posted by CancerMan at 10:24 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
So, to add to my previous flimsy analogy, you've just equipped The Hulk with Mjolnir.
posted by CancerMan at 10:24 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
And I remember Gaunt even fights the main bad guy and guts him with a chainsword
Yeah, that was stupid. (But the Gaunt books are still my favorite, not only because Abnett is the best WH40K writer, but because you barely see Space Marines in that series. I think it's something like 13 books long and the most recent novel is the first in which good SMs have shown up. And Abnett uses them as judiciously and sparingly as one should - there are only three of them and they appear in a handful of scenes.)
posted by longdaysjourney at 10:28 AM on April 24, 2013
Yeah, that was stupid. (But the Gaunt books are still my favorite, not only because Abnett is the best WH40K writer, but because you barely see Space Marines in that series. I think it's something like 13 books long and the most recent novel is the first in which good SMs have shown up. And Abnett uses them as judiciously and sparingly as one should - there are only three of them and they appear in a handful of scenes.)
posted by longdaysjourney at 10:28 AM on April 24, 2013
FOAM FOR THE FOAM GOD!
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
posted by ersatz at 10:35 AM on April 24, 2013 [9 favorites]
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!
posted by ersatz at 10:35 AM on April 24, 2013 [9 favorites]
I think it's something like 13 books long and the most recent novel is the first in which good SMs have shown up. And Abnett uses them as judiciously and sparingly as one should - there are only three of them and they appear in a handful of scenes.)
Yes! Salvation's Reach. I agree with you completely. Space Marines are best when used sparingly, and he is really a master as far as that goes. I remember explicitly the few scenes in SR where they feature, and they're all great.
The scene where one of them finally helps Merrt with his jaw in particular sticks out to me.
I was just looking last night - the next book is called The Warmaster and we'll see it in December. I wonder if that means we'll see Saint Sabbat again. I thought that was kind of a significant happening, and then she just kind of went off and took Milo with her.
posted by kbanas at 10:56 AM on April 24, 2013
Yes! Salvation's Reach. I agree with you completely. Space Marines are best when used sparingly, and he is really a master as far as that goes. I remember explicitly the few scenes in SR where they feature, and they're all great.
The scene where one of them finally helps Merrt with his jaw in particular sticks out to me.
I was just looking last night - the next book is called The Warmaster and we'll see it in December. I wonder if that means we'll see Saint Sabbat again. I thought that was kind of a significant happening, and then she just kind of went off and took Milo with her.
posted by kbanas at 10:56 AM on April 24, 2013
Where should I start with the books? Bonus points for Amazon links, the mods could use a beer bonus.
I played the game mumble years ago and it was incredibly fun, specially as we were playing paranoia at the same time, but no one had read any books, and I have no idea if we were playing it 'correctly' or not.
But we were doing something right, for one day after 12 hours of doritos, beer and cigarettes we heard a deep growling bone chilling screaming order (request is not the right word) coming from the upstairs bathroom 'TEEEEEEEE PEEEEEEE FOR THE BUUUUUUUNG HOOOOOOOOLE!...... please'.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 11:34 AM on April 24, 2013
I played the game mumble years ago and it was incredibly fun, specially as we were playing paranoia at the same time, but no one had read any books, and I have no idea if we were playing it 'correctly' or not.
But we were doing something right, for one day after 12 hours of doritos, beer and cigarettes we heard a deep growling bone chilling screaming order (request is not the right word) coming from the upstairs bathroom 'TEEEEEEEE PEEEEEEE FOR THE BUUUUUUUNG HOOOOOOOOLE!...... please'.
posted by Doroteo Arango II at 11:34 AM on April 24, 2013
I was just looking last night - the next book is called The Warmaster* and we'll see it in December. I wonder if that means we'll see Saint Sabbat again. I thought that was kind of a significant happening, and then she just kind of went off and took Milo with her.
Oh that's fantastic news, this is the first I've heard about the new book. I would love it if it did feature Sabbat, since I'd almost forgotten about Milo, but from reading the preview (gah, worst cover ever!) it looks as though it's going to feature Makaroth. I'm still excited though - I really enjoy this series and I'm glad Abnett is there to write about the actual people in the WH40K universe and not the demigods.
*(Actually I'm a little surprised the Imperium still uses Warmaster as a title. You'd think it would be a little bit tainted, no?)
posted by longdaysjourney at 11:44 AM on April 24, 2013
Oh that's fantastic news, this is the first I've heard about the new book. I would love it if it did feature Sabbat, since I'd almost forgotten about Milo, but from reading the preview (gah, worst cover ever!) it looks as though it's going to feature Makaroth. I'm still excited though - I really enjoy this series and I'm glad Abnett is there to write about the actual people in the WH40K universe and not the demigods.
*(Actually I'm a little surprised the Imperium still uses Warmaster as a title. You'd think it would be a little bit tainted, no?)
posted by longdaysjourney at 11:44 AM on April 24, 2013
emmtee: "how much does terminator armour look like Grumpy Cat, previously I always figured the Emperor really liked pugs"
Whenever I see this car, I think, "Whoa! Mitsubishi makes terminator armor!"
posted by Bugbread at 11:53 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
Whenever I see this car, I think, "Whoa! Mitsubishi makes terminator armor!"
posted by Bugbread at 11:53 AM on April 24, 2013 [3 favorites]
gah, worst cover ever!
Presumably the warping of perspective is to represent the stroke that man appears to be having.
posted by Artw at 12:05 PM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Presumably the warping of perspective is to represent the stroke that man appears to be having.
posted by Artw at 12:05 PM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Where should I start with the books? Bonus points for Amazon links, the mods could use a beer bonus.
Well, if you're talking general WH40K, the book that was recommended to me that got me started is Let the Galaxy Burn. Sorry. No Metafilter affiliate ID. I'm not sure how to do that.
If you're talking straight up Gaunt's Ghosts (which is what we're talking about here), there are 13 books. The first... 11.... I think.. are collected in 3 omnibus editions. The first is The Founding, then The Saint, then The Lost. And then two more books that are too new to be rolled into an omnibus - Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach.
If you want to start from the start, you have to pick up The Founding. I've re-read all 3 over the last couple months, and I have to tell you... it's not especially well written. Things don't really start to click until The Saint, so I would probably start there if you can stomach skipping the first 3 books. And you can.
I would love it if it did feature Sabbat, since I'd almost forgotten about Milo, but from reading the preview (gah, worst cover ever!) it looks as though it's going to feature Makaroth
Yes! But, and I only remember this because I just re-read them - Sabbat left to go join Makaroth at the front and rally the troops - so I'm hoping that she's there, because it would be cool to check in, I guess.
posted by kbanas at 12:49 PM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
Well, if you're talking general WH40K, the book that was recommended to me that got me started is Let the Galaxy Burn. Sorry. No Metafilter affiliate ID. I'm not sure how to do that.
If you're talking straight up Gaunt's Ghosts (which is what we're talking about here), there are 13 books. The first... 11.... I think.. are collected in 3 omnibus editions. The first is The Founding, then The Saint, then The Lost. And then two more books that are too new to be rolled into an omnibus - Blood Pact and Salvation's Reach.
If you want to start from the start, you have to pick up The Founding. I've re-read all 3 over the last couple months, and I have to tell you... it's not especially well written. Things don't really start to click until The Saint, so I would probably start there if you can stomach skipping the first 3 books. And you can.
I would love it if it did feature Sabbat, since I'd almost forgotten about Milo, but from reading the preview (gah, worst cover ever!) it looks as though it's going to feature Makaroth
Yes! But, and I only remember this because I just re-read them - Sabbat left to go join Makaroth at the front and rally the troops - so I'm hoping that she's there, because it would be cool to check in, I guess.
posted by kbanas at 12:49 PM on April 24, 2013 [1 favorite]
I don't ever say stuff like this but as a long time 40k fanboy and a staunch defender of humanity from the filthy xenos and heretics: FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
posted by Our Ship Of The Imagination! at 1:23 PM on April 24, 2013
posted by Our Ship Of The Imagination! at 1:23 PM on April 24, 2013
Sabbat left to go join Makaroth at the front and rally the troops
Oof, I really need to re-read these books since I'd completely forgotten this.
Where should I start with the books?
I'm only going to discuss WH40K lit here, since I've never played the tabletop game. Anything by Dan Abnett is entertaining (not War & Peace mind you, but competent military sci-fi), but his best stuff includes the Gaunts Ghosts books, which focus on an Imperial Army regiment and are notable for focusing on the human bits of the WH40K-verse (think the Cornwell Sharpe books, only set in the grim dark future where there is only war and Chaos cultists). I also enjoyed the Eisenhorn/Ravenor books which are about two Inquisitors who end up on different sides (OR DO THEY). (Somewhat spoilery review of Ravenor.)
The Ciaphas Cain books are not as good as the Gaunt books, but if you're tired of the grim dark, and want something that's written with an awareness of how ridiculous the WH40K-verse is, they're fun beach reading.
Useful background for the Universe are all the Horus Heresy books which explain how all this fighting got started. Writing quality is pretty hit or miss for the books in this series however and you will be heartily sick of Space Marines by the time you get through them.
posted by longdaysjourney at 1:23 PM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Oof, I really need to re-read these books since I'd completely forgotten this.
Where should I start with the books?
I'm only going to discuss WH40K lit here, since I've never played the tabletop game. Anything by Dan Abnett is entertaining (not War & Peace mind you, but competent military sci-fi), but his best stuff includes the Gaunts Ghosts books, which focus on an Imperial Army regiment and are notable for focusing on the human bits of the WH40K-verse (think the Cornwell Sharpe books, only set in the grim dark future where there is only war and Chaos cultists). I also enjoyed the Eisenhorn/Ravenor books which are about two Inquisitors who end up on different sides (OR DO THEY). (Somewhat spoilery review of Ravenor.)
The Ciaphas Cain books are not as good as the Gaunt books, but if you're tired of the grim dark, and want something that's written with an awareness of how ridiculous the WH40K-verse is, they're fun beach reading.
Useful background for the Universe are all the Horus Heresy books which explain how all this fighting got started. Writing quality is pretty hit or miss for the books in this series however and you will be heartily sick of Space Marines by the time you get through them.
posted by longdaysjourney at 1:23 PM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I also enjoyed the Eisenhorn/Ravenor books which are about two Inquisitors who end up on different sides (OR DO THEY).
I'll second Eisenhorn and Ravenor. And now he's turning it into a trilogy - as a couple months back he released the first book of a new set - Pariah!
posted by kbanas at 1:29 PM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
I'll second Eisenhorn and Ravenor. And now he's turning it into a trilogy - as a couple months back he released the first book of a new set - Pariah!
posted by kbanas at 1:29 PM on April 24, 2013 [2 favorites]
Is there a word for a trilogy of trilogies?
posted by Gin and Comics at 3:09 PM on April 24, 2013
posted by Gin and Comics at 3:09 PM on April 24, 2013
Is there a word for a trilogy of trilogies?
Nine books? /rimshot
posted by kbanas at 4:42 PM on April 24, 2013
Nine books? /rimshot
posted by kbanas at 4:42 PM on April 24, 2013
Writing quality is pretty hit or miss for the books in this series however and you will be heartily sick of Space Marines by the time you get through them.
"Hit or miss" does not nearly cover it. I read the first four out of curiosity, and the writing was so... unspeakable... that I was nearly driven into the arms of Chaos. Fortunately, the Wmperor steadied my mind, and I burned the taint out. But it was a near thing.
posted by GenjiandProust at 6:18 PM on April 24, 2013
"Hit or miss" does not nearly cover it. I read the first four out of curiosity, and the writing was so... unspeakable... that I was nearly driven into the arms of Chaos. Fortunately, the Wmperor steadied my mind, and I burned the taint out. But it was a near thing.
posted by GenjiandProust at 6:18 PM on April 24, 2013
A note on Ciaphas Cain -- if Gaunt's Ghosts is Sharpe IN SPACE!, then CC is Harry Flashman IN SPACE! They're a lot of fun if you enjoy the writing style, which is highly self-referential (Cain's editor frequently inserts excerpts from other works to provide background that Cain is too self-absorbed to mention, while apologizing for their atrocious prose.) Also features not only an unreliable narrator (Cain may be more heroic than the lecherous self-interested coward he presents himself as), but potentially an unreliable editor as well (since she's Cain's Inquisitor girlfriend and may or may not be slanting things to make herself look good).
posted by McCoy Pauley at 7:42 PM on April 24, 2013
posted by McCoy Pauley at 7:42 PM on April 24, 2013
trilogy of trilogies?
Nonology?
The Eisenhorn books by Abnett are a ton of fun and a pretty good way to get into the WH40k universe. It's not high literature, but its fun stuff.
posted by porpoise at 8:00 PM on April 24, 2013
Nonology?
The Eisenhorn books by Abnett are a ton of fun and a pretty good way to get into the WH40k universe. It's not high literature, but its fun stuff.
posted by porpoise at 8:00 PM on April 24, 2013
CancerMan: "Terminators are not meant for tactical flexibility nor are they meant for speed."
Of course to compensate they are usually delivered by the most awesome tank in the game.
posted by Mitheral at 8:54 PM on April 24, 2013
Of course to compensate they are usually delivered by the most awesome tank in the game.
posted by Mitheral at 8:54 PM on April 24, 2013
Mitheral, you should really warn people about links like that. I've got five tabs open already from just the first couple of paragraphs. It was nice knowing all of you.
posted by Ghidorah at 2:22 AM on April 25, 2013
posted by Ghidorah at 2:22 AM on April 25, 2013
Of course to compensate they are usually delivered by the most awesome tank in the game.
Dear Sir, BANEBLADE.
posted by kbanas at 8:32 AM on April 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
Dear Sir, BANEBLADE.
posted by kbanas at 8:32 AM on April 25, 2013 [2 favorites]
I forget about super heavys because we don't play apocolypse but ya the Baneblade is more awesome.
posted by Mitheral at 8:40 AM on April 25, 2013
posted by Mitheral at 8:40 AM on April 25, 2013
GenjiandProust: ""Hit or miss" does not nearly cover it. I read the first four out of curiosity, and the writing was so... unspeakable..."
The first three books of the Horus Heresy series, Horus Rising, False Gods and Galaxy in Flames are not the best but they are almost required reading for background on how the Heresy started.
After that I would recommend Legion, The First Heretic, Fulgrim, A Thousand Sons, Prospero Burns, Know no Fear, Angel Exterminatus and Betrayer.
Other books that are pretty good, The Emperor’s Gift
posted by the_artificer at 6:48 PM on April 25, 2013
The first three books of the Horus Heresy series, Horus Rising, False Gods and Galaxy in Flames are not the best but they are almost required reading for background on how the Heresy started.
After that I would recommend Legion, The First Heretic, Fulgrim, A Thousand Sons, Prospero Burns, Know no Fear, Angel Exterminatus and Betrayer.
Other books that are pretty good, The Emperor’s Gift
posted by the_artificer at 6:48 PM on April 25, 2013
Hit post instead of preview.
The Emperor’s Gift is a pretty good introduction to the Grey Knights. Titanicus, Dan Abnett writes about a Titan Legion. Helsreach, Black Templars vs Orks. Atlas Infernal, Inquisitor Czevak borrows a book from the Eldar without asking. Night Lords Trilogy Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver and Void Stalker by Aaron Dembski-Bowden follows a band of the Night Lords traitor legion.
posted by the_artificer at 6:55 PM on April 25, 2013
The Emperor’s Gift is a pretty good introduction to the Grey Knights. Titanicus, Dan Abnett writes about a Titan Legion. Helsreach, Black Templars vs Orks. Atlas Infernal, Inquisitor Czevak borrows a book from the Eldar without asking. Night Lords Trilogy Soul Hunter, Blood Reaver and Void Stalker by Aaron Dembski-Bowden follows a band of the Night Lords traitor legion.
posted by the_artificer at 6:55 PM on April 25, 2013
From memory, Terminator armour is 2d6(4+) to save. They are pretty hard to bring down. A standard space marine is 1d6(3+), again from memory. Their job is basically to be shot at.
posted by Hello, I'm David McGahan at 5:23 AM on April 27, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Hello, I'm David McGahan at 5:23 AM on April 27, 2013 [1 favorite]
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