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	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:50:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.komotv.com/stories/15637.htm"&gt;BREAKING NEWS: Police Make Arrest In Green River Murder Case &lt;/a&gt; The biggest unsolved serial killing spree in the NW now has a suspect in custody.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:46:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>crankydoodle</dc:creator>		<category>greenriver</category>		<category>murder</category>		<category>killer</category>		<category>arrest</category>		<category>seattle</category>		<category>portland</category>		<category>washington</category>		<category>oregon</category>		<category>northwest</category>		<category>suspect</category>
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		<title>By: black8</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183340</link>	
		<description>Whoa...I went to jr. high school with one of his victims. I hope they finally got the bastard!</description>
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		<title>By: litlnemo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183357</link>	
		<description>black8, which victim? I went to high school (Nathan Hale) with Cynthia Hinds. She was in my 9th grade gym class. I didn&apos;t know her well, but we knew each other enough to say hello. I have one strong memory of her -- one day in class, she was a little hyper, and she kept singing &quot;Philadelphia Freedom,&quot; over and over. The gym teacher didn&apos;t seem to appreciate it.

I never had any more classes with her, and next saw her in the newspaper, two years later, after they pulled her body out of the Green River.

I can&apos;t believe that after all this time, they finally have a likely suspect. I hope this is the right guy, and I hope he gets convicted. Those women deserve justice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:24:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carol Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183358</link>	
		<description>Tomas Guillen, co-author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0451402391/reviews/002-8241835-8698457#04514023915111&quot;&gt;&quot;The Search for the Green River Killer,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; just told KING-TV that he knows Ridgway well from his investigation, but that Ridgway was not named in the book because Ridgway was a &quot;hot&quot; suspect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:25:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carol Anne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kokogiak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183362</link>	
		<description>Amazing. I hope they are right and this is the bastard they&apos;re after. 

For those not native to the Northwestern US, the Green River Killer has been nearly legendary as an unsolved serial killer case (50 women victims) - the case has been open and in the local news off an on for nearly twenty years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:38:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shinybeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183366</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m amazed that it took them this long to identify matching DNA samples from three of the victims!  If Ridgway was a &quot;hot&quot; suspect, why didn&apos;t they have his DNA on file years ago?  Something doesn&apos;t quite add up here...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:47:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carol Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183378</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;shinybeast:&lt;/b&gt;  King County Sheriff Dave Reichert said that Ridgway&apos;s DNA was on file.  When arrested for solicitation of prostitution in 1982, Ridgway consented to chew on a piece of gauze which was saved.  But DNA testing procedures weren&apos;t sophisticated enough to identify Ridgway until very recently.  At the time of the killings, DNA tests could only reveal blood type. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forensicdna.com/Timeline.htm&quot;&gt; Over the years&lt;/a&gt;, forensic DNA testing has developed considerably.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:12:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carol Anne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jennyb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183387</link>	
		<description>Here&apos;s some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial3/greenriver/index.html&quot;&gt;good background info&lt;/a&gt; on the Green River Killer for anyone interested.

According to &lt;i&gt;The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers&lt;/i&gt; (&#169; 2000 Michael Newton, p. 84) &quot;the Green River Killer may have taken his show on the road, with authorities from neighboring Snohomish Country, Washington, to San Diego, California, and Kansas City hinting at possible &apos;Green River&apos; involvement in their own greusome series of prostitute murders.&quot; The article said Ridgeway had a job at a trucking company so that could fit.

I hope they got the right guy. It will be great to close this case.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:38:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: black8</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183389</link>	
		<description>Kimi Kai Pitsor...we weren&apos;t great pals, but she sat next to me at our 9th grade graduation from McClure. I moved out of state for a couple of years after that. Hearing that she was murdered was really freaky.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:42:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shinybeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183398</link>	
		<description>Carol Anne, thanks for the forensics timeline.  Interesting stuff!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:20:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: youthbc1</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183453</link>	
		<description>This is pretty crazy.  Just last night, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/&quot;&gt;Vancouver Sun&lt;/a&gt; columnist &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/info/columnists/vaughn_palmer.html&quot;&gt;Vaughn Palmer&lt;/a&gt; was on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kcts.org/productions/kctsconnects/index.asp&quot;&gt;KCTS Connects&lt;/a&gt; comparing this case to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.missingpeople.net&quot;&gt;murders and disappearances&lt;/a&gt; of several dozen women (many of them prostitutes) here in British Columbia.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:05:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jragon</title>
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		<description>So apparently his work buddies used to call him &quot;GR Gary&quot; -- Green River Gary.  Source : komo4 news, in Seattle.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:08:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carol Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#183672</link>	
		<description>Sunday Seattle Times--&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/&quot;&gt;THE GREEN RIVER KILLINGS&lt;/a&gt;--The King County Sheriff&apos;s Office reiterates that &apos;We have not caught the Green River killer,&apos; but it does believe the suspect is responsible for some of the 49 deaths. Detectives have 10,000 pieces of evidence they must again wade through.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2001 11:48:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carol Anne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: silusGROK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#184278</link>	
		<description>My sister is one of the 49... and I, for one, hope this is the guy. Our family has always suspected it was an associate of my sister (who&apos;s in prison for murder), but I&apos;d be happy to be wrong. 19 years. Wow.
&lt;p&gt;
A couple of years ago, &lt;a href=http://www.google.com/search?q=mtDNA+testing&quot; target=&quot; newwindow&gt;mtDNA&lt;/a&gt; testing was made more available, and I pushed the investigators to test my mother so we could identify remains... they said it was in the Fed&apos;s hands. Problem was, the Feds were sitting on it as their small labs were being taxed with demand. A letter to my senator (who was at the time part of the FBI oversight committee) didn&apos;t yield much, but after some waiting the tests were completed. It was a dead end, but it was good to close at least one of the myriad wounds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:02:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: silusGROK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/12773/#184284</link>	
		<description>What!?

Ah man... something happened.

Here&apos;s the rest of the post:

&quot;A couple of years ago, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=mtDNA+testing&quot; target=&quot;NewWindow&quot;&gt;mtDNA&lt;/a&gt; testing was made more available, and I pushed the investigators to test my mother so we could identify remains... they said it was in the Fed&apos;s hands. Problem was, the Feds were sitting on it as their small labs were being taxed with demand. A letter to my senator (who was at the time part of the FBI oversight committee) didn&apos;t yield much, but after some waiting the tests were completed. It was a dead end, but it was good to close at least one of the myriad wounds.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:05:23 -0800</pubDate>
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