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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 13085</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:04:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 13085</title>
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		<description>100 years ago today, Marconi received the first transatlantic
wireless signal. It was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nature.com/physics/lookingback/marconi/marconi.pdf&quot;&gt;
reported in &lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt; on Dec 19, 1901&lt;/a&gt;. How&apos;s that for an old link?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

The first repurcussion of this achievement: &lt;i&gt;legal notice to remove his equipment from Newfoundland&lt;/i&gt; because
ATC had 2 years left in their 50 year telegraphic monopoly. Plus &#231;a change...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

Listen to a real &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.qsl.net/g4rfr/marconi.htm&quot;&gt;spark gap transmission&lt;/a&gt; at 0200 UTC Dec 13 on 3550 KHz to relive history.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:55:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>		<category>radio</category>		<category>marconi</category>		<category>nature</category>		<category>sparkgap</category>		<category>newfoundland</category>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189863</link>	
		<description>Sorry for the double post - I got an error message the first time, but I guess the post went anyway.
&lt;br&gt;
It is interesting that all the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alpcom.it/hamradio/&quot;&gt;celebrations and re-creations&lt;/a&gt; have the date wrong.

The actual transmission was on Dec 12, and the first reception was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20011210S0055&quot;&gt;on December 11&lt;/a&gt;. So why wasn&apos;t it celebrated last night?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:04:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MrBaliHai</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189869</link>	
		<description>I doubt that any of the news media reporting this story is talking about how Marconi&apos;s great achievement wouldn&apos;t have been possible without all of the patents he ripped off from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercury.gr/tesla/marcen.html&quot;&gt;Nikola Tesla&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:27:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HTuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189871</link>	
		<description>An occassional pastime is to try to grab a few words from a high-speed morse code transmission over shortwave.
Here&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.earthlink.net/~judlind/indexb.html&quot;&gt;site &lt;/a&gt;with a phonetic code trainer that might help.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:36:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MAYORBOB</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189875</link>	
		<description>And 100 years later we have Howard Stern, Don Imus, G. Gordon Liddy, Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, various and sundry Morning Zoo Crews, and music which is so soul crushingly predictable.

Who hijacked Marconi&apos;s marvelous invention?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:47:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MAYORBOB</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: snarkout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189882</link>	
		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Who hijacked Marconi&apos;s marvelous invention?&lt;/cite&gt;

That would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/time100/builder/profile/sarnoff.html&quot;&gt;David Sarnoff&lt;/a&gt;, the Radio Corporation of America radio operator at Wanamaker Hardware in New York who relied breaking news about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.execpc.com/~shepler/cqd&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Titanic&lt;/cite&gt; sinking&lt;/a&gt; to a worried and excited throng for almost three days straight. Sarnoff foresaw the transformation of radio into a medium for mass communication and was instrumental in starting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rca.com/&quot;&gt;RCA&lt;/a&gt; (which owned the rights to Marconi&apos;s invention in the United States) down the road to radio broadcasting and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbc.com/&quot;&gt;NBC&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:15:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>snarkout</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gleuschk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189887</link>	
		<description>*applauds snarkout*</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:25:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gleuschk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189892</link>	
		<description>I think it is all &lt;a href=&quot;http://collections.ic.gc.ca/heirloom_series/volume4/42-45.htm&quot;&gt;Fessenden&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s fault. He showed that radio could be used for entertainment by broadcasting voice and music to ships in the Atlantic. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemedia.net/SFCV-RMIT-Annex/rnaughton/FESSENDEN_BIO.html&quot;&gt;And more&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:31:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: skallas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189894</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s always college radio and the net.  Or even college radio on the net [&lt;a href=&quot;http://147.126.68.240:8000&quot;&gt;wluw chicago stream&lt;/a&gt;].</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:33:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skallas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189896</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The actual transmission was on Dec 12, and the first reception was on December 11.&lt;/i&gt;

That would be backwards; right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:40:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snarkout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189902</link>	
		<description>&lt;cite&gt;*applauds snarkout*&lt;/cite&gt;

It would be more impressive if I had typed &quot;relayed&quot; correctly. In penance, here is an article on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercurians.org/nov98/misreading.html&quot;&gt;legal battles between Tesla and Marconi&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:43:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geneablogy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189957</link>	
		<description>I heard the spark gap transmission. Of course, it&apos;s nothing new for me; I hear spark gap transmissions on my shortwave radio every time I run the dryer....</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:39:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holycola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#189970</link>	
		<description>Hearing media outlets parrot the credit to Marconi for for what was rightly Tesla&apos;s discovery used to make my blood boil. Now, I&apos;m just glad that people take a day to remember that a technology so ubiquitous and pretty much taken for granted does have an origin and a historical context that can be appreciated. Would I rather see Tesla&apos;s name there? Yes, absolutely. But if I had to choose between reflection on the origins and impact of a technology and the accuracy of the details, I would choose the latter. So, biting my lip a bit, I say happy Marconi day.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:12:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: warhol</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#190072</link>	
		<description>Alright, but what does it actually sound like. Another page has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinemedia.net/SFCV-RMIT-Annex/rnaughton/SPARK_SOUNDS.html&quot;&gt;a few samples and a little more information&lt;/a&gt;. The thing I haven&apos;t read anywhere was why spark was banned from the airwaves by the 1920s.

While looking for more info, this &lt;a href=-&quot; http://members.aol.com/jeff560/jeff.html&quot;&gt;History of American Broadcasting&lt;/a&gt; was very interesting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:24:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/13085/#190101</link>	
		<description>Very nice link &lt;i&gt;warhol&lt;/i&gt;. I suspect that spark was banned because the signal takes up more bandwidth than a CW signal of the same power. So, more stations can occupy the same range of frequencies without interfering with each other.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:49:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
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